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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

The following submissions have been registered by the SCA College of Arms, August 2010:

Beverly FitzAlan de Stirkelaunde. Name and device. Vert, a pigeon between flaunches argent.

The submitter presented evidence from genealogical websites for Beverly as a feminine given name. Genealogical websites must be used with caution, as the sources for the dates and the spellings are generally unclear. Spellings in particular are often modernized. Therefore, submitters who use genealogical websites must provide evidence that the spellings and dates are correct. Luckily, Edelweiss was able to find evidence for an English boy with the given name Beverly in 1584, allowing the registration of this as a masculine name.

Christmas Albanach. Name and device. Purpure, a gore argent ermined gules.

This name mixes English and Gaelic, which is a step from period practice.

Gawayn Langknyfe. Device. Per bend sinister gules and argent, a bull-headed man vested of a loincloth between in bend sinister two battle-axes counterchanged.

Killian M'Cahall. Badge. Quarterly argent and vert, four dragonflies counterchanged.

Nice badge!

Ségán Ó Catháin. Device. Per bend sinister vert and sable, a sinister wing argent and a bordure argent semy of triquetras inverted sable.

The following submissions have been returned by the College of Arms for further work, August 2010:

Wthyr na Lannyust. Name.

The form of the byname is not supported by the evidence presented by the submitter or that found by commenters. Locative bynames are at best rare in Cornish and its neighbor, Welsh. But when they do occur they only use the placename, without other words or grammatical changes. No evidence was presented nor could any be found of locative bynames using na.

Commenters were not able to find evidence that the spelling Lannyust was used in period, but the Cornish Language Society dates the spelling Lanuste to 1396. We would change the name to Wthyr Lanuste to register it, but the submitter only allows minor changes. Under current precedent, the removal of na is a major change.

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