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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

The following submissions have been registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, January 2011:

Alexander Smyth. Name and device. Sable, a pall inverted and in base a gauntleted fist argent.

Nice late period English name! Please instruct the submitter that the pall should have the lines of each leg parallel to each other.

Cáelinn ingen Chatháin. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Submitted as Cáelinn inghean Catháin, the byname mixes the Early Modern Gaelic inghean with the Middle Gaelic Catháin; we have changed it to the wholly Middle Gaelic form. In addition, the byname must be lenited, making it ingen Chatháin. These changes were made in order to register it.

The submitter requested authenticity for Scots Gaelic; unfortunately the given name was only used by an early saint, and does not seem to have been used otherwise. It is registerable under the saint's name allowance, but without evidence it continued in use, the name cannot be made authentic.

Christmas Albanach. Badge. (Fieldless) An ermine spot per pale purpure and gules.

Isabel inghean Alasdair. Name and device. Argent, a caravel and on a base engrailed azure a fish argent.

This name mixes a Scots given name with a Gaelic byname; this is a step from period practice. A wholly Gaelic form would be Iosbail inghean Alasdair. There was a question raised in commentary as to whether this device is obtrusively modern, citing the logo of Blue Peter, a BBC children's show which has been on the air for over 50 years. The caravel in this submission is a period depiction of a ship, and the submission is clear of the logo for Blue Peter, which we would render as Argent, a ship azure, with a CD for adding the base and a CD for charging the base. While the submission is reminiscent of the logo for the children's show, it does not rise to the level required to be considered obtrusively modern.

Jakob inn rammi. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Kendrick MacBain. Name.

Submitted as Kendrake MacBain, no evidence was presented nor could any be found by commenters that the spelling Kendrake was in use before 1650. We have changed it to the attested Kendrick in order to register this name.

Ketiley dreki tunga. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Submitted as Ketiley drekkistunga, no evidence was presented that the element dreki- 'dragon' (note that the documented form has a single k) was used to created compound Old Norse bynames. Instead, the word meaning 'dragon's tongue' is the documented ormstunga; orm means both 'serpent' and 'dragon.' However, both dreki and tunga can be constructed as independent bynames. The word dreki was used as the name of a type of ship (discussed for example in Judith Jesch, Ships and Men in the Late Viking Age). Other kinds of ships are used in bynames: koggi 'cog' is found as a byname, while knarrar 'merchant ship's' and skeiðar 'war ship's' are used in compound bynames (all from Geirr Bassi). Therefore dreki 'dragon ship' follows a pattern of the use of ship types in bynames and is a plausible constructed byname. While the byname tunga is not attested, the prepended form Tungu- is found in the Landnamabok. The post-pended form is therefore reasonable as well. Two descriptive bynames are registerable in Old Norse when they might both be used to describe the same person simultaneously. Therefore, this can be registered as Ketiley dreki tunga; we have done this in order to register the name.

Michiele MacBean. Name.

Submitted as Michièle MacBean, the accents in the cited article are editorial. All the period citations of the name that commenters could find appear without accents. We have therefore removed the accent in order to register the name. The submitter has permission to conflict with the registered name Mitchell MacBain. This name mixes a French given name and a Scots byname, which is a step from period practice.

Rosamund Sanburne. Name and device. Per bend sinister engrailed Or and azure semy of musical notes Or, a Russian firebird rising contourny azure.

Submitted as Rosamond Sanburne, the submitter indicated she preferred Rosamund. Rosamund is dated to 1563 in Bardsley (s.n. Roseaman), making the entire name sixteenth century.

Seonaid inghean Mhuireadhaigh. Name and device. Per pale purpure and argent, three towers counterchanged.

The submitter requested authenticity for Scots Gaelic. This name meets that request. This device is clear of a badge for the Barony of Red Spears, Per pale purpure and argent, a zule counterchanged. There is a CD for the change in number of primary charges. There is at least significant difference, if not substantial, between a zule and a tower, so there is another CD for the change of type of the primary charge group. Since substantial difference is not necessary to clear the conflict, we will not rule on whether there is substantial difference between a zule and a tower at this time.

The following submissions have been returned by the College of Arms for further work, January 2011:

Cáelinn ingen Chatháin. Device. Or, two axes crossed in saltire and on a point pointed vert a rapier inverted Or.

This device is returned because the emblazon blurs the distinction between a per chevron field and a point pointed. Blazoned as a point pointed, it is emblazoned as the lower quarter of a per saltire field, not truly per chevron but too close to per chevron to be considered a point pointed.

Jakob inn rammi. Device. Gules, a sword argent, winged Or.

This device is returned for conflict with the device of Brand Armand of Lancaster, Gules, a winged sword Or. There is a CD for the change of tincture of the sword, but no other CD.

It is also a conflict with the device of Michael MacPherson, Gules, a sword argent between in fess two wings displayed and in chief two escallops inverted Or between two more argent. There is a single CD for removing the escallops, but nothing for the lack of conjoining of the primary charges.

Ketiley dreki tunga. Device. Gules, two five-toed Imperial dragons combatant and an increscent bendwise sinister argent.

Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as wingless dragons, commenters were unable to recognize the type of the charges solely from their appearance. Therefore, this device is returned for violating section VII.7.a of the Rules for Submissions, which say that "Elements must be recognizable solely from their appearance".

On resubmission, the submitter should take care to avoid using the five-toed Imperial dragon, which cannot be used in SCA

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