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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, January 2007:

Alewyn Jouette. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Çynara of Twin Moons. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Per chevron argent and purpure, two roses gules slipped and leaved vert and a lyre Or.

The slips are drawn to fill the available space; their orientation need not be specified. We note that keeping them in the same orientation, as here, is much better heraldic style than the mirror-image orientation we often see. Submitted under the name Çynara del Mar Azul.

Dawn of Jusborne. Reblazon of device. Per pale argent and azure, a standing balance per pale sable and argent, above the dexter pan a child recumbent proper, above the sinister pan a mullet of eight points Or.

When registered in January 1973, the primary charge was blazoned simply as a balance.

Falcone Piacentini. Name and device. Per pale gules and vert, an eagle displayed argent within an orle of fleurs-de-lys Or.

Hamdun al-Rashid the Toe. Name and device. Checky Or and gules, on a fess purpure a cross fleury between a pair of drinking horns Or.

This name mixes English and Arabic; this is one step from period practice. We have consistently reblazoned trousers of nobility as a pair of drinking horns (e.g., January 2003, Scheherazade al-Zahira). We will continue to do so.

Jacqueline du Perdepays. Reblazon of device. Per saltire argent and vert, a hand balance Or between four fleurs-de-lys in cross counterchanged.

Registered January 1974 with the blazon Per saltire argent and vert, four fleurs-de-lis one, two, one counterchanged, overall a balance Or, the balance is not overall: it is the central charge, and the secondary fleurs-de-lys are well away from it. In addition, the type of balance was not specified.

Samuel Zetetic the Skeptic. Reblazon of device. Gyronny azure and sable, in pale a standing balance, its arm bendwise sinister and maintaining in the sinister pan a weight, and two arrows in fess conjoined at the points argent.

When registered March 1980, the primary charge was blazoned simply as a balance.

Zekel Zofia. Name.

Submitted as Zsofia Zekel, the consonant combination zs is not found until after 1650. Eastern Crown notes "This sound was typically written as 's' in period. However, it was sometimes written as 'z'." The name Sofia Zekel is the expected form for this name in a Latin document. However, in a Hungarian context, we could expect Zekel Zofia; this form preserves the double-Z initials that the submitter desired. We have changed the name to Zekel Zofia in order to register it and to meet the submitter's preferences.


The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work, January 2007:

Áedán Mac Néill. Device. Azure, on a saltire between in pale two crescents argent and in fess two mullets Or, two arrows inverted in saltire proper flighted vert.

This was a resubmission. The LoI noted:

'The original submission, Azure, on a saltire argent between four pairs of a decrescent argent and a mullet in fess Or, two arrows inverted in saltire proper flighted vert., was returned for being overly complex: "It uses six tinctures (azure, argent, Or, vert, sable (for the arrowhead) and brown/wood (for the shaft of the arrow) and four types of charge (saltire, arrows, decrescents, mullets). This exceeds the rule of thumb set forth in RfS VIII.1.a. The College had some questions about whether the sets of decrescents and mullets surrounding the saltire would have been found as a secondary group design in period armory. If the submitter has documentation for such a practice, it would be helpful to present it on resubmission. We decline to rule at this point on the acceptability of such a design.

‘While the number of charges and tinctures remains the same, the client has addressed the issue of the "sets" around the saltire. The client strongly prefers to use "proper" arrows (which add to the complexity by virtue of sable points, wooden shafts, and a tinctured fletching, all on one charge!), which does add to the complexity count.’

The primary cause for return was the complexity - the use of six tinctures and four charges, which as the LoI noted was not addressed in this resubmission. The device is again returned for being overly complex.

Alewyn Jouette. Device. Per chevron vert and azure, two bunches of sage inverted and a dragon passant argent.

This device is returned as the sage is unidentifiable as sage. While the submitter is welcome to resubmit this device, we are not certain that a bunch of sage can be drawn in such a manner that it is identifiable. As we do not have any examples of bunches of herbs used in period heraldry, we are unable to provide an example to aid in an attempt to emblazon the sage. From a heraldic viewpoint, a single sage leaf would be better style.

Çynara del Mar Azul. Name.

No documentation was submitted and none found to suggest that the byname de la Mar was ever modified by an adjective. Barring such documentation, the name del Mar Azul is not registerable. We would drop the element Azul, but the submitter will not accept major changes. Her armory was registered under the holding name Çynara of Twin Moons.

Daibhídh mac Dubhghaill. Name and device. Quarterly argent and azure, a tower and in chief two roundels, all counterchanged.

This name conflicts with David MacDougall, registered December 1987. The pronunciation of the two names is nearly identical.

This device is returned for redraw. As drawn, the charges are co-primary; however, the blazon would make the tower lower on the field so that it is per pale argent and azure instead of quarterly azure and argent as submitted. As we were unable to derive a blazon that would accurately reproduce this emblazon, the device must be returned.

Thomas DeGuy Bassard. Badge. (Fieldless) In pale a vulture close sable perched on a covered tankard azure charged with a compass star of sixteen points argent.

This badge is returned for being two steps from period practice. The first is for the use of a compass star (which is an SCA-compatible charge). The second is for using a New World bird that is not found in period heraldry heraldry - this bird is clearly a variant of the American birds named "vultures" rather than the unrelated European birds named vultures.

Please advise the submitter that having a vulture in his badge doesn't cant on his name as in period Europe, buzzard didn't refer to a vulture, but to the Buteo genus of hawks: "An inferior kind of hawk, useless for falconry," according to the OED. Applying the term buzzard to a vulture seems to be a uniquely New World practice. We note that European vultures are perfectly acceptable as heraldic charges. But they weren't depicted with featherless heads, as here: featherless heads distinguish New World vultures.

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