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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

THE FOLLOWING SUBMISSIONS HAVE BEEN REGISTERED BY THE S.C.A. COLLEGE OF ARMS, MARCH 2008:



Adaleide de Warewic. Device. Per chevron azure and gules, three dogwood blossoms one and two and a tower argent.

This device conflicts with the device of Jamila al-Zuhayriyya, Per pale gules and azure, four quatrefoils in cross argent, which is registered elsewhere on this letter. There is a CD for changes to the field but nothing for changing the type only of one quarter of the charges. Both Adaleide and Jamila are paid members. As Atenveldt's LoI is dated one day earlier than Outlands's LoI, Adaleide's device takes precedence and is registered. She has provided a letter of permission to conflict to Jamila.

The submitted device does not conflict with the device for Aldgytha of Ashwood, Per saltire gules and sable, four roses argent barbed and seeded proper. There is a CD for changes to the field. Dogwood blossoms are essentially quatrefoils, and thus have a CD from roses. This is in line with the precedent: Ærne Clover. Device. Or, a four-leaved clover saltirewise slipped vert. This is clear of conflict with Kathleen Regina the Wild Irish Rose, Or, a rose vert, its stem nowed sable, in chief two lions rampant gules. The type comparison between the primary charges in the devices is, effectively, the difference between a rose and a quatrefoil, and these two charges have a type CD between them: "Quatrefoils and roses do not appear to have been considered equivalent charges in our period" (LoAR of October 1995). [LoAR 08/2002]

This overturns the October 1998 precedent (v. David Cade) which said that there is no difference between dogwood blossoms and roses.


Brian le baylly. Name.

The submitter requested an authentic 13th C Irish name. While the name is a lovely 13th C Anglo-Norman name, and a name that might be found borne by a Norman in Ireland at that time, the language is not Irish Gaelic.


Cristina Rose da Napoli. Device. Azure, a sunflower proper, on a chief argent three goblets gules.

While sunflowers are New World flowers, Parker cites a single instance in English heraldry dated 1614: the arms of Florio (originally from Spain), blazoned Azure, a heliotrope (or sunflower) or issuing from the stalk sprouting out of two leaves vert; in chief the sun in splendour proper. Therefore the use of a sunflower is not a step from period practice.

The fact that Florio's arms have both a sun and a sunflower is evidence that period heralds did not consider these to be the same charge. Therefore, the submitted device is clear of the device for Isabel d'Avignon, Azure, a sun Or, on a chief argent three decrescents azure. There is a CD for the changes to the tertiary charges and another for the difference between a sun and a sunflower.


Edward Harrison. Name and device. Quarterly azure and sable, an eagle and a base indented argent.


Elias Loredan. Badge. Sable, a horse rampant argent charged with a compass rose sable, a bordure embattled argent.


Gallant O'Driscole. Badge. (Fieldless) A thunderbolt sable.


Merewyn of Brittany. Reblazon of device. Per saltire argent and azure, a saltire counterchanged between in pale a Latin cross flory and an axe reversed sable and in fess two suns Or.

Registered in July 1982 with the blazon Per saltire argent and azure, a saltorel counterchanged between in pale a Latin cross flory and an axe reversed sable and in fess two suns Or, a saltorel is couped by default. In this case, the term saltorel referred to the fact it was a skinny saltire. We have corrected the blazon to indicate that the primary charge is a saltire. Please see the Cover Letter for a discussion of saltorels.


Michael of Moria. Reblazon of device. Gules, a saltire counter-ermine between in pale a Celtic cross formy and a cup inverted bendwise Or.

Registered in July 1971 with the blazon Gules, a saltorel counter-ermine between in pale a Celtic cross patty and a cup inverted bendwise, both Or, a saltorel is couped by default. In this case, the term saltorel referred to the fact it was a skinny saltire. We have corrected the blazon to indicate that the primary charge is a saltire. Please see the Cover Letter for a discussion of saltorels.

In period the term cross patty was used to describe a variety of crosses including patonce, formy, and sometimes fleury. As the device is being reblazoned for other reasons, we have elected to more accurately describe the cross.


Richard of Mont Royal, the Short. Reblazon of badge. (Fieldless) On a star of David sable, a saltorel throughout Or.

Registered in June 1973 with the blazon (Fieldless) On a star of David sable, a saltorel Or, a saltorel is couped by default. The blazon has been corrected to indicated that the saltorel in this case is throughout.


Robert MacAlister of Leslie. Badge. Barry wavy argent and azure, a heart and a bordure gules.


Rowena of Cornwall. Name and device. Or, a staff proper, ensigned with a triquetra azure, sustained and entwined by a pithon vert.

The name Rowena was declared no longer SCA-compatible (and hence not registerable barring documentation of its use in period) on the September 2007 Cover Letter. However, we will continue to allow registration of this name as an SCA-compatible name until the May 2008 decision meeting in fairness to submitters who already had a name in progress.

Blazoned on the LoI as a ragged staff, this is simply a staff. A ragged staff (like the bear-and-ragged staff badge of the Warwicks) is almost a pale raguly and couped rather than an actual walking stick. (For ragged staves bendwise or fesswise, of course, substitute the appropriate ordinary.)

Note that the staff and pithon are co-primary charges; normally a charge entwining another is a maintained charge.


Thomas Cyriak Bonaventure. Name.


Timothy Blackwell. Device. Per saltire sable and azure, a phoenix Or and a bordure erminois.

Please advise the submitter that the flames should be drawn as a single mass; they should also be somewhat larger and not have the heavy black outlining that the submitted emblazon had.


Uther the Dark. Badge. (Fieldless) A bear rampant within and conjoined to an annulet argent.


THERE WERE NO RETURNS, MARCH 2008
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