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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

The following submissions were registered November 2015 by the SCA College of Arms:

Attalus of Carthage. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Attalus is a Latinized form of the Greek Attalos, also used as a Roman cognomen as late as the 5th century CE. The byname of Carthage is a lingua Anglica form.


Aveline Lindesie. Name and device. Per pale purpure and gules, a horse rampant and on a chief argent an apple branch reversed vert fructed gules.

There is a step from period practice for use of modern trapezoidal-shaped apples.


Kita Jirou Michigane. Name.

Marion Bradford of Yorkshire. Badge. Vert, on a heart gules fimbriated argent a fess checky argent and sable.

Neot the Pict. Name change from Neot Fisk and device change. Azure, a winged fish bendwise, wings addorsed Or, in base a fishhook argent.
The submitter requested authenticity for "380-400 AD Pict". Neot is a 9th century Anglo-Saxon name that could not be documented earlier. It is also grandfathered to the submitter. The name is not authentic for the submitter's desired time and place, but it is registerable.
The submitter's previous name, Neot Fisk, is released.
Please advise the submitter to draw the fish more centered.
The submitter's old device, Azure, a horse courant and in canton a crescent argent, is released.


Nikolaus Gerhart. Device. Argent, a hand issuant from a wing gules sustaining a sword sable, on a base gules three feathers argent.


Pero Tercero. Name.
This name was pended from the June 2015 Letter of Acceptances and Returns to allow commenters to discuss a request for an authentic 13th century Spanish or Basque name. Pero is a 13th-15th century Basque name and a 16th century Spanish name. Tercero is a 16th century Spanish byname. Therefore, the name is authentic for 16th century Spain, but not as early as the 13th century.


Reitz of Atenveldt. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Or, two dunghill cocks addorsed sable headed gules.
Submitted under the name Reitz Nader der grothen Schwartzen Hanen.
Nice device!


Yamaguchi Yukio Matsutaro Futoshii no Suo. Reblazon of badge. (Fieldless) A katana fesswise reversed argent hilted sable.
Registered in August 1979 as (Fieldless) A katana fesswise inverted reversed proper, the intent of Laurel* at the time seems to have been to define a "katana proper" with an argent blade and sable hilt; and when fesswise, with the blade's edge to chief. Since neither of those has become the definitions, we are explicitly reblazoning the tinctures, and leaving the blade's edge to the artist.


The following were returned by the CoA for further work, November 2015:


Ari Ánsson. Badge. Gules scaly argent.
This badge is returned for conflict with the device of Antonius Hasebroek: Gules scaly Or. The underlying field tincture is the same and there is only one DC for changing the tincture of the scales. At the time the current precedent on field only armory with field treatments like scaly was set in February, 2012, Laurel declined to rule on whether or not two fields of identical underlying tinctures with the same type of field treatments in different tinctures are clear of conflict or not. At this time we are ruling that, if two field primary pieces of armory share the same field treatment and an identical underlying tincture, the fields do not differ by a substantial change of tincture and, absent an additional change (e.g., for the presence of a peripheral charge) will conflict.


Attalus of Carthage. Device. Argent, a man affronty gules in a short tunic Or kneeling on one knee and his hands supporting a chief embowed to base azure.
This device is returned for using a chief embowed to base. Although embowing to chief for chiefs and some ordinaries can be seen in some armorials as an illustration of the curvature of the shield, the same is not true for embowing to base. Additionally, no period evidence was presented for a primary charge like this human overlapping the chief.


Ismenia O'Mulryan. Device change. Argent, a bend sinister vert between a hawk's head contourny erased azure, armed vert, and two annulets in fess azure.
This device is returned for using an arrangement that is not documented to period. The annulets are not arranged in the default arrangement for two compact charges below a bend sinister (which would be in bend sinister) and their arrangement has to be blazoned independently of the hawk's head. Such an arrangement of charges around a bend (sinister) is not registerable without documentation.


Kitajima Ishirou Matai. Name.
The Letter of Intent stated that Matai is a Japanese form of the name Matthew. Although this is the case, this usage appears to be well after our period. Therefore, we are unable to register this name.
Upon resubmission, we suggest the 16th-17th century Matchiyasu or Matchasu, both Japanese forms of the Portuguese Matthias. They were documented in commentary by ffride wlffsdotter in Masaharu Anesaki, "The Fates of Some of the Leading Kirishitans Who Signed the Barberini Documents of 1620-21"(PIA 3.5; 247-50) and in Masaharu Anesaki, A Concordance to the History of Krishitan Missions (https://archive.org/details/MN41610ucmf_4), respectively.


Reitz Nader der grothen Schwartzen Hanen. Name.
The byname der grothen Schwartzen Hanen ("the large black cock/rooster") doesn't fit any documented pattern. We do not have evidence of descriptive bynames derived from kinds of animals with multiple adjectives modifying them.
Upon resubmission, we note that Reitz Nader is a nice late period German name. If he still wants an inn-sign-style byname, we suggest the form zum Schwartzen Hahne ("at the sign of the black cock/rooster"), as we do have evidence of animals modified by a color term in German sign names.
His device is registered under the holding name Reitz of Atenveldt.



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