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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, October 2009:


al-Yasamin bint Malik. Name.

Submitted as Yasmeen bint Malik, the only documentation provided for the variant spelling Yasmeen was a reference to a previous registration, from 1985. Past registration is no guarantee of current registerability, especially when the previous registration was made nearly 25 years ago. Several Middle Eastern forms of Jasmine are listed in Whitcher and Uckelman, "Concerning the Names Jasmine, Yasmin, Yasaman, and the Like", including Arabic al-Y{a-}sam{i-}n, Turkish Yasemin, and Persian Y{a-}saman. None of these forms omit the intervocalic syllable, so it is unlikely that Yasmeen is a plausible period variant. The submitter cares most about Arabic language/culture, which means that the form al-Y{a-}sam{i-}n, or al-Yasamin without the long vowels marked, is most appropriate. We have changed the name to al-Yasamin bint Malik in order to register it.

Since Malik is on the List of Alternate Titles as the approved Arabic alternate title for 'king', there was some question whether the byname bint Malik is presumptuous. It is not. Precedent says: Malik 'Abd al­Rahman. Name. This was pended from the April 1997 LoAR for more information as to whether the name was presumptuous. While Malik (in the original Arabic) is a documented name, one of the transliterations of the Arabic word for king is transliterated in the same way. To answer this question, we quote al-Jamal: “. . .the grammar of Arabic would keep the name Malik `Abd al­Rahman from being considered a claim to being an `Abd al Rahman who was a king. A "King `Abd al­Rahman" would be al-Malik `Abd al­Rahman; the king `Abd al­Rahman. The non­use of the article here takes the name out of the realm of presumption. (Even addressing the king directly would use the article: not Ya malik ("oh, king"), but Ya al-Malik (the effective equivalent of "your Majesty"). Only when speaking of kings generally or impersonally would one drop the definite article.) All of the Arabic alternate titles work this way. For example, in the SCA I am not Shayk Da'ud or Mu'allim Da'ud. The proper usage is ash-Shayk Da'ud or al-Mu'allim Da'ud. Ansteorra's current king is not Sultan (or Malik) `Abd al­Mahdi, he is as-Sultan (or al-Malik) `Abd al­Mahdi.” Having received assurance that the name is not presumptuous, we see no reason not to register it. [08/1997]

Without the definite article al- before Malik, the byname cannot be interpreted as 'daughter of the king', so it is not presumptuous.


Anerain Pabodie. Name and device. Gyronny of six palewise sable and argent, on a chief gules a griffin contourny Or.
Submitted as Aneirin Peaboadie, Aneirin was documented as a 13th C spelling of the name of a 6th C Welsh poet. No evidence was provided that this name was still in use during the 13th C, and lacking such evidence, a 13th C spelling is not registerable. A similar name, Anerain, is dated to 1292 in Francis Jones, "The Subsidy of 1292 [covering Abergavenny and Cilgerran]", Bulletin of the Board of Celtic Studies, 13.
No documentation was provided, and none could be found by the commenters, that Peaboadie is a plausible variant spelling of the English byname Peabody, at any period. The submitter indicated that if Peaboadie wasn't registerable, he preferred the spelling Pabodie. This spelling can be found in the IGI Parish Record extracts, in the entries of Margaret Pabodie, mar. Nicholas Belche, 01 Dec. 1588, St. Mary Somerset, London, and Richarde Pabodie, mar. Margaret Harison, 11 Nov. 1582, St. Mary Somerset, London.
We have changed the name to Anerain Pabodie in order to register it.


Bartholomew of Wolfetwain. Badge. (Fieldless) In pale a tree issuant from a wooden bucket all proper.


Carolina Nanni. Device. Or, on a pomme a sunflower proper, a bordure sable.


Cathán Ultaig. Name.
Submitted as Cú Cathán Ultaig, the LoI documented the compound given name Cú Cathán on the basis of the numerous Cú X given names found in Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, "Index of Names in Irish Annals", specifically the example of Cú Ríán, which apparently uses the masculine given name Ríán as the second element. Rowel provides further information about Cú X given names:
In <Cú [X]> style names, the overwhelming majority of the [X] elements are geographical references: either formal placenames (such as <Cú Muman> 'hound [of] Munster') or toponymic descriptions (such as <Cú Lacha> 'hound [of the] Lake'). (It is important to note that, in both of these examples, the word following <Cú> is in the genitive case. The nominative form for 'Munster' is <Muma> and the nominative form for 'Lake' is <Loch>.)
So far, I've only found two examples where the [X] in a <Cú [X]> style name could even possibly be a man's given name and in both cases that origin is actually pretty unlikely.
One name (<Cú Dubhán>) is a standard diminutive of an existing name (<Cú Dubh>), and so cannot be reliably viewed as support for this construction; it's probable that it is merely a diminutive of the existing name.
The other name (<Cú Ríáin>) has a final element that is hard to pin down.
The experts are split on it's [sic] origin. Some assert that it means "<Ríán>'s hound". However, per the DIL gives the genitive of <rian> as <rein> - but that does not match the genitives found in The Annals of the Four Masters. Some sources assert the second element in <Cú Ríáin> derives from a form of <righ> 'king'.
So, the root of the second element may be a given name but it at least as probable (or more so) that it is a conjugated form of a regular word. A number of <Cú [X]> names are formed from locatives, so it is also possible that the root is some form of a formal placename.
Given this information, I have to unfortunately conclude that we don't have solid evidence that period <Cú [X]> style names would be formed based on a man's given name.
Lacking such evidence, Cú Cathán is not registerable. The simple given name Cathán is, however; it is dated between 914 and 1036 in Mari's article cited above. We have changed the name to _Cathán Ultaig in order to register it.


Cerdic of Anglesey. Name change from holding name Cerdic of Atenveldt and badge. (Fieldless) A triskele per pale sable and argent.

The byname of Anglesey is a lingua anglica form of the byname æt Angles ege. Angles ege is dated as a late 11th C, Old English form in Bosworth Toller, Anglo-Saxon Dictionary, s.n. Angles eg.

Please instruct the submitter to draw the arms of the triskele somewhat more substantially, so that it is more easily recognized.


David of Mons Tonitrus. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Argent, a rapier bendwise surmounted by a fleur-de-lys azure.

Submitted under the name David Maurice.


Galen MacKintoch. Device. Sable, a bend vert fimbriated Or, in sinister chief a sinister wing with a hand issuant sustaining a sword bendwise argent.


Ívarr haukr. Name.
The submitter requested authenticity for 10th C Viking/Old Norse. While we have not found any examples of haukr 'hawk' being used as a byname, there are many examples of bird bynames in Landnámabók, which covers the late 9th C through the early 11th C, including kráka 'crow', sp{o,}rr 'sparrow', hani 'rooster', hegri 'heron', Hrafna- 'raven-', Kaða- 'hen-', korpr 'corbie', pái 'peacock', skarfr 'cormorant', titlingr 'sparrow', and {o,}rn 'eagle'. Thus, haukr seems completely plausible for his desired period.


Mirhaxa av Morktorn. Reblazon of badge. Or, a tower sable within seven mullets in annulo vert.

Blazoned when registered, in February 1981, as Or, a tower sable with seven mullets in annulo vert, we have specified the relative position of the tower and annulets.


Nora Rose Tennepenny. Name and device. Per chevron purpure and Or, two horseshoes inverted Or and a thistle proper.

Submitted as Norah Rose Tenpenny, no documentation was provided, and none could be found, that Norah is a period spelling. The spelling Nora is found in English; Nora is dated to 1379 in Bardsley, A Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames, s.n. Manning, and Edelweiss cites from the IGI Parish Record abstracts Nora Bernardi, bap. 15 Oct. 1578, Landewednack, Cornwall, and Nora Irish mar. Cornwall Denys, 25 Jan. 1562, East Newlyn, Cornwall, as well as William Tennepenny bap. 02 March 1549, Holt, Worcestershire.

The submitter requested authenticity (for an unspecified language/culture). No dated examples of Tenpenny were provided on the LoI; we have changed the name to Nora Rose Tennepenny to make the name authentic for 16th C English.

Commenters noted that the black and white emblazon and the colored emblazon were different. While section V.B.2.e of the Administrative Handbook, requires "an accurate representation of each piece of submitted armory," it goes on to say that "The colored copy must be a scan of the original," without mentioning that the black and white must be. The colored emblazon appears to be a scan of the submission form. While there are minor differences between the emblazons, they fall well within the realm of artistic license.


Zhigmun' Broghammer. Badge. (Fieldless) An ermine spot azure ermined Or.

By precedent, ermine spots are considered to be a single charge for purposes of a fieldless design:

The ermine spot is considered a single charge, and is acceptable for fieldless badges [Eduard Halidai, July, 1992, pg. 3]


Zhigmun' Broghammer. Badge. (Fieldless) A sinister wing with a bird's foot issuant azure maintaining an ermine spot Or.


The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work, October 2009:


Charles of the Jacs. Badge. Per chevron inverted throughout ployé embattled sable and argent, in chief in pale a cubit arm issuant from sinister proper and a she-monkey statant affronty, arms raised, fesswise Or.

This badge is returned because it is not blazonable, as required by section VII.7.b of the Rules for Submissions, which says "Any element used in Society armory must be describable in standard heraldic terms so that a competent heraldic artist can reproduce the armory solely from the blazon." The field is not per chevron inverted throughout, which would issue from much higher on the sides of the field. Per chevron lines of division, in period, were drawn to evenly divide the field into two parts of roughly the same area.

This badge is also returned for obtrusive modernity. Throwing a monkey-wench into the gears, while a fine pun, is not a suitable basis for period armorial style. One commenter also noted that she found the design offensive, being an allusion to masturbation.

Last, this badge is also returned for being non-period style, a violation of section I.1.b of the Rules for Submissions. The use of multiple complex lines on the field division, the fesswise orientation of the monkey, the awkwardness in blazon to describe the position of the charges, and the overall pictorial design all contribute to this impression.


David Maurice. Name.

This conflicts with Dafydd Morrison. The given names Dafydd and David are not significantly different in sound. The bynames Maurice and Morrison are likewise not significantly different; Maurice and Morris are negligibly different in sound, and per RfS V.1.ii.a, the addition of -son to a given name is not a significant difference in sound. His device has been registered under the holding name David of Mons Tonitrus.


Giles Chadwik Richardson. Badge. Per pale argent and azure, a tower sable.

This badge is returned for conflict with the badge of Geoffrey Geometer, Barry wavy argent and azure, a tower issuant from base sable, and the device of Harold Breakstone, Or, a castle triple-towered sable, pennants flotant to sinister vert. In both cases, there is a single CD for the field. In the case of Harold's device, we grant no difference between a castle and a tower. The badge is also returned for conflict with the badge of Ofelia della Crusca, (Fieldless) A tower sable masoned Or maintaining a unicorn's head issuant from its turrets argent, and the badge of Torric inn Björn, (Fieldless) A tower sable masoned Or maintaining a brown bear's head issuant from its turrets proper, both reblazoned elsewhere on this letter. In both cases, the maintained head does not count for difference, leaving a single CD for the difference between a fielded and a fieldless design. Masoning does not count for difference on charges which are normally constructed out of stone, such as towers and castles. The submitted badge does not conflict with the device of Peregrine Anorial of the Further Isles, Gyronny Or and azure, a brown sandstone tower proper, portaled and lighted Or. There is a CD for the field. There is another CD for the difference between brown and black, even though the tinctures are indexed together in the Ordinary and Armorial.


Lorelei of Lockehaven. Augmentation. Per pale azure and Or, a candle argent, sconced sable, enflamed Or, "haloed" argent, the whole fimbriated counterchanged and as an augmentation in canton a sun in splendor Or.

This augmentation is returned because the arms to which it is attached are a change to her currently registered arms. A change of arms must be submitted as a separate action and fees paid for it. Specifically, in her registered device, the flame on her candle is proper, not Or.

This augmentation is also returned because the argent halo around the flame of the candle is not blazonable. The argent halo does not appear in her registered emblazon and is, therefore, not grandfathered to her.

Precedent on submissions of augmentations says:

"This is returned as the base device is being changed as well as the augmentation, with the dragon's claws changing from in pall to in pall inverted, but no paperwork was received for the change of the unaugmented device. This was intended to be solely a change in augmentation; however, as emblazoned, the submission also included a change in the base coat as well as the change in augmentation. These are two separate but not independent actions. If the submitter wishes this device, she will need to resubmit with a device change and an augmentation change. If she wishes to change only the augmentation, she will need to resubmit the augmentation change with the emblazon matching her currently registered base coat . . ." [Minowara Kiritsubo, April 2006, R-Atlantia]

Since this argent halo does not appear in her registered device and because the newly submitted emblazon has an Or flame, not a (pre-1985 style) proper flame, this submission must also be returned administratively, since a change of device was not also received. If the submitter wishes an Or flame on the candle, we must receive a change of device form. If the submitter wishes a proper flame, it may drawn either as on a flame, a flame or as alternating tongues of gules and Or flames, as the former depiction is grandfathered to her.

Please direct the submitter to the April 1995 Cover Letter, for an explanation and depictions of how period flames proper are drawn.
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