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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)
THE FOLLOWING WERE REGISTERED BY THE S.C.A. COLLEGE OF ARMS, NOVEMBER 2007: Alyne Strangwych. Badge. (Fieldless) An acorn vert. The submitter has permission to conflict with the badge for Muin maqq Mínaín, Argent, an acorn enflamed vert. Bébinn ingen Domnaill. Name and device. Per chevron argent and azure, two hearts vert and a needle argent, threaded sable. \ Bláth inghean Uí Laoghaire. Device. Argent, a sun in its glory azure between four triquetras inverted two and two sable. Brandr of Atenveldt. Holding name and device (see PENDS for name). Vert, a rooster argent within an annulet Or. Submitted under the name Brandr hani. Cosmo Craven the Elder. Badge. (Fieldless) A Beaufort yale rampant argent semy of annulets vert, armed Or. While we do not generally blazon the type of yale (Beaufort or Bedford), the submitter specifically requested a Beaufort yale so that it would always be depicted with large curving horns. We have thus retained the type of yale in the blazon. There is no heraldic difference between a Beaufort and a Bedford yale. Nice badge. Dionysus of Grantham. Badge. Or, two bones in saltire gules surmounted by a frog sejant affronty vert. Elzbieta Rurikovskaia. Badge. (Fieldless) A cross formy per pale azure and argent. Nice badge. Friedrich Sybold. Device. Per saltire vert and sable, a compass star within a mascle argent. Submitted as Galen McKintoch, the spelling of the byname includes the scribal abbreviation Mc. The September 2007 cover letter spelled out how such scribal abbreviations would be expanded: "...for names found in Scots documents and for Anglicized Irish names, the abbreviations M' and Mc will be expanded to Mac in both first- and second-generation patronymics..." We have changed the name to Galen MacKintoch in order to register it. Galen had previously been registerable in English and Scots as a literary name. However, this submitter was able to document the name in use in England in our gray area: There is a Galen Browne who was a late period physician; he practiced medicine in English [sic] 1619-1639 (<http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=17273&strquery=Galen>). Cool! Gudrun Oddsdottir. Device. Per pale azure and argent, two Bowen knots crosswise counterchanged. Katherine Anne Geldschlager. Name and device. Per pale purpure and argent, a boar rampant contourny maintaining a morningstar between three hearts, all counterchanged. Submitted as Katherine Anne Geldschläger, the byname Geldschläger is an undated header form from Bahlow/Gentry, German Names. Undated header forms are only registerable if their spelling can be shown to be consistent with period forms. In this case, something very close to the header form can be constructed. Bahlow/Gentry, s.n. Geldner has Geldner in 1329 "apparently an unrounded form of göldner", and Geldfuß in 1408 meaning "goldfoot - the rich man". Albion notes Messenschlager in Aryanhwy merch Catmael, "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/nurnberg1497.html) and Lautenschlager 'lute-player' in "German Names from 1495" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/german1495.html) by the same author. We believe this is sufficient to give the benefit of the doubt for the spelling Geldschlager; we have changed the name to Katherine Anne Geldschlager in order to register it. Sechen Doghshin-Unegen. Device. Per fess sable and azure, a mermaid per fess Or and argent, in chief two pitchers fesswise, their bases to center, each distilling a gout Or. \ Sha'ul of Joppa. Device. Per fess embowed counterembowed sable and argent, two stars of David in bend sinister argent and azure. Simon Kerbouchard. Badge. (Fieldless) A demi-dragon contourny azure sustaining a decrescent Or. Please instruct the submitter to draw his decrescent with a circular outline, rather than an elliptical outline. Had the crescent been the sole primary charge, such a distortion would have been grounds for return. Stephan of Atenveldt. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Per bend gules and sable, a cross formy and on a chief argent a fleur-de-lys between two roses gules. Submitted under the name Stephan MCGrath. Tomas mac Aedain. Device. Argent, a bend bevilled between two crosses formy gules. The charges were blazoned as argent on the LoI; however, the majority of the commenters noted the correct tincture, gules. Therefore, this need not be pended for further conflict checking. Tomas y Saer. Blazon correction. Per pale gules and sable, in saltire a Lochaber axe and a handsaw both argent hafted Or, within an orle Or. The LoI blazoned this submission as Per pale gules and sable, an axe surmounted by a saw crossed in saltire Or, both bladed argent, and an orle Or. In correcting the blazon to Per pale gules and sable, a Lochaber axe and a handsaw both argent hafted Or, within an orle Or on the July 2007 LoAR, the fact that the axe and handsaw are in saltire was dropped. THE FOLLOWING WERE RETURNED FOR FURTHER WORK BY THE S.C.A. COLLEGE OF ARMS, NOVEMBER 2007: Alianora Alexandra da Lyshåret. Badge. Per pale sable and argent, a chevron rompu and in base a lozenge barry, all counterchanged. This device was sent to Laurel on a form not approved by Laurel. The August 2006 Cover Letter stated: "As of the May 2007 Letter of Intent, each Kingdom's name and armory submissions must appear on the new forms, or be subject to administrative return." As this was not on a new form, we must return it. If this badge had not been returned for administrative reasons, it would have been returned for lack of contrast. Each half of the barry lozenge shares a tincture with its field: i.e., it's a lozenge barry argent and sable, on the sable part of the field, and a lozenge barry sable and argent, on the argent part of the field. The total effect makes the lozenge look like a series of oddly couped bars, rendering it unidentifiable. A simple counterchange of the lozenge, as was done with the chevron, would solve the problem, assuming no conflicts. Jonathon von Trotha. Badge. (Fieldless) A whelk azure. This badge was sent to Laurel on a form not approved by Laurel. The August 2006 Cover Letter stated: "As of the May 2007 Letter of Intent, each Kingdom's name and armory submissions must appear on the new forms, or be subject to administrative return." As this was not on a new form, we must return it. If this badge had not been returned for administrative reasons, it would have been returned for conflict with the seal for the Triton Principal Herald, (Tinctureless) A triton-shell trumpet bell in chief. In December 2002, Laurel returned Argent, a whelk purpure with the explanation: Conflict with a seal for the Triton Principal Herald, (Tinctureless) A triton-shell trumpet bell in chief. There is one CD for tincturelessness but no difference between a triton shell and a whelk. (A triton-shell trumpet is effectively just a triton shell with perhaps the very tip of the shell snipped off.) The two shells are in the same posture (palewise with the opening to chief). Although the triton-shell trumpet in the emblazon for the Triton Principal Herald in the files has a slightly spiralled shape, the standard triton shell is shaped very much like the whelk in this emblazon, as can be seen in an entry from the on-line Shell Encyclopedia (http://www.gastropods.com/t/Shell_Charonia_tritonis_tritonis.html) and the on-line Encyclopedia Brittanica (http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=75359). [Lisette la lavendière de Shelby, 02/2002, R-Middle] The same conflict exists here, so the badge must be returned. Joseph the Good. Badge. Gules, a bordure argent. This badge was sent to Laurel on a form not approved by Laurel. The August 2006 Cover Letter stated: "As of the May 2007 Letter of Intent, each Kingdom's name and armory submissions must appear on the new forms, or be subject to administrative return." As this was not on a new form, we must return it. If this badge had not been returned for administrative reasons, it would have been returned for multiple conflicts. The badge conflicts with the device for John Thorn, Gules, a chief embattled argent; with Bahrain (important non-SCA flag), Gules, a dexter tierce indented argent; and the arms of John Balliol, King of Scotland (important non-SCA arms), Gules, an orle argent. In each case there is a single CD for changing the type of peripheral charge. Precedent, established on the September 2007 Cover Letter, requires that the scribal abbreviation Mc be expanded to Mac in Gaelic, Scots, and Anglicized Irish names: "Given this, then, for names found in Scots documents and for Anglicized Irish names, the abbreviations M' and Mc will be expanded to Mac in both first- and second-generation patronymics. For Latin, M' and Mc will be expanded as Mac in first- generation patronymics and as either Mac or Mic, depending on similar expanded Latin examples in contemporary sources, or, preferably, from the same document. Similarly, the parallel abbreviation Vc will be expanded to Vic or Vyc depending on the practice of the time and document in which it is found; this applies to Scots, Anglicized Irish, and Latin documents. For all languages, the capitalization used in the source may be retained (that is to say Mac and mac are interchangeable in this context as are Vyc/Vic and vyc/vic)." The submitter has noted that he will not accept minor changes, which we must interpret as accepting no changes. As he will accept no change, we are forced to return this name. In resubmitting, the submitter should use a dated form of his surname. Black, The Surnames of Scotland, s.n. MACCRAITH, has these forms McRethe, 1537 (MacRethe with the scribal abbreviation expanded), Makcreith, 1535, McCraith 1545 (MacCraith with the scribal abbreviation expanded), M'Krayth 1584 (MacKrayth with the scribal abbreviation expanded), and M'Kraith, 1603 (MacKraith with the scribal abbreviation expanded). In addition, we have found several examples of the spelling Magrath that are likely period spellings. "Annates for the Diocese of Emly", (http://www.ryans.org/researchinfo/annates%20-%20fiants-1452%20-%201603-Tipperary.htm), contains several examples of Magrath dated to 1602, including Terence or Tirlagh MaGrath of Ballimacky, Terence or Tirlagh MaGrath of Ballimacky, Barnaby MaGrath of Bleyne, Neile MaGrath Brother of Miler of Camass, Gyllepatrick MaGrath of Bleynie, and Andrew Ultagh MaGrath. William Burke, History of Clonmel, notes a report from a spy in 1615 in the British Museum which notes a "Thoma Magrath had a father a fryer..." In resubmitting, we would recommend any of the dated forms in Black, or the spelling Magrath (also in the capitalization MaGrath. His armory has been registered under the holding name Stephan of Atenveldt. THE FOLLOWING WAS PENDED FOR FURTHER WORK BY THE S.C.A. COLLEGE OF ARMS UNTIL JULY 2008: Listed on the LoI as Brandr hani, the name was originally submitted as Brandr inn hani. No mention of the change or the reason for the change was made on the LoI. Failure to mention changes is cause for return or pending. We are pending this name to allow the commenters to address whether it is registerable in its originally submitted form. |
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