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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

ATENVELDT REGISTRATIONS by the College of Arms, April 2002:


Edward Archer of Cornwall. Name change from holding name Edward of Atenveldt.

Iðunn Sveinsdóttir. Name and device. Ermine, a pomegranate gules slipped and leaved vert and a bordure per saltire sable and purpure.

Submitted as Idonea Svensdöttir, the submitter requested authenticity for Old Norse and allowed any changes. Svensdöttir was documented from a Web article not on the Laurel website. As such, printouts are required as documentation. Since printouts were not included, this documentation is not sufficient for registration. In any case, the Old Norse form of this byname is Sveinsdóttir. We have changed the byname to this form per the submitter's request for authenticity. Idonea is a Latin form of a 12th to 14th C English given name derived from the Old Norse Iðunn (listed in Geirr Bassi, p. 12). An authentic name for a time period appropriate for Old Norse would have been rendered all in Old Norse or all in a Latinized form depending upon the language of the document in which the name was recorded. Gösta Tengvik, Old English Bynames, dates Eduuardus filius Suani to 1066 on p. 198. Iðunn Sveinsdóttir would be a completely Old Norse form of this name. Idonea filia Suani would be a completely Latinized form of this name. As the submitter requested authenticity for Old Norse, we have changed this name to the form Iðunn Sveinsdóttir to comply with her request.

Killian M'Cahall. Badge. (Fieldless) A dragon sejant contourny barry engrailed vert and Or.

There were some concerns in the College that the engrailing would not be identifiable due to the complex outline of the charge and the internal details. The full-sized colored emblazon shows that the engrailing is very obvious. This barry engrailed monster is at most one step from period practice, since animate charges in multiply divided tinctures were found in period armory. One of the most famous examples is that of the arms of Hesse, Azure, a lion rampant queue-forchy barruly argent and gules crowned Or. Siebmacher's 1605 Wappenbuch gives a number of other examples, including Truchess von Wellerswalde, Azure, an eagle displayed barry argent and gules (f. 161), Schirau, Azure, a unicorn rampant bendy gules and argent (f. 69) and Badendorf, Azure, a lion lozengy argent and gules crowned Or (f. 179).



ATENVELDT RETURNS by the College of Arms, April 2002:


Dévora Risée de Apors. Badge. (Fieldless) A raven regardant azure.

Conflict with Reginleif Ragnarsdottir, Or chape gules, a raven azure. There is one CD for fieldlessness. There is no other difference for changing only the head posture of the raven by RfS X.4.h, which states in part: "Changes in the position of the head, for instance, are not significant".

Hawk's Rest, Shire of. Branch name and device. Or, a tower sable charged with a hawk's head erased Or environed in base with a laurel wreath vert.

No documentation was presented and none was found that Rest is a plausible toponymic element in a period English placename. The LoI stated that "[a] rest is a stopping place, or a lodging place, as for travelers or pilgrims, according to the Compact Oxford English Dictionary". Ferrule noted that the COED (p. 544) dates this use of rest to 1225. However, evidence that a word existed in English in period is not documentation that it is a plausible element in an English placename. As no member of the College could find any evidence that Rest was used as a toponymic in an English placename, it is not registerable in that use. Rest has only been registered as a toponymic element a total of seventeen times (not including holding names based on a registered branch name). The most recent registration was of Household Stone's Rest (registered October 1998). The next most recent registration was in 1992. Therefore, the element Rest does not have the same level of popularity as elements that have been ruled SCA-compatible as toponymics in placenames, including Keep. Lacking such continuous popularity, this element is not SCA compatible.

There are two differences between the elements Keep and -crest, which are SCA compatible, and Rest, which is not. As discussed in the November 2001 LoAR (s.n. Tristan Ravencrest), there are examples of period bynames that use forms of keep and crest, including Rogerus del Crest which Bardsley (p. 216 s.n. Crest) dates to 1379, and Thomas ate Kepe which Reaney & Wilson (p. 261 s.n. Keep) date to 1327. No bynames of this form have been found using a form of rest. Also, Keep and -crest have been more popular in recent years than Rest. It is these two main factors which grant Keep and -crest the benefit of the doubt and make them SCA compatible, where Rest is not.

Ekwall (pp. 226-227) lists some placenames that include references to 'hawk' as their first element, including Hauxley, Hawkedon, Hawkhill, Hawkinge, Hawkley, Hawkridge, Hawkstone, and Hawkwell. These headers give examples of words meaning 'hawk' combined with a variety of toponymics and would provide examples of constructions that occured in period.

The appropriate designator is Shire rather than Incipient Shire, as the College does not track this status.

The device must be returned for lack of a name to which to register it. The armory had an additional problem which would not allow it to be accepted. Laurel wreaths should not be drawn with another charge between the tips of the wreath, except possibly when the charge between the tips is very thin. "[A laurel wreath and in chief a roundel] Second, the laurel wreath is not closed (or even nearly so), and if it were, there would be no room for a roundel. A properly drawn laurel wreath should not have sufficient room between its tips to place another charge"(LoAR 2/00).


There weren’t any Atenveldt actions at the CoA’s May meetings.
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