Kingdom of Atenveldt
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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)
The following were registered by the SCA College of Arms, December 2014:
Atenveldt, Barony of. Order name Order of the Root of the Barony of Atenveldt and badge. Argent, two palm trees trunks crossed in saltire and in chief a stump gules. This order name is a resubmission of Order of the Roots of the Barony of Atenveldt, which was returned in March 2007: This name does not follow documented patterns of period order names. The submission was documented as following the pattern "basing a name on Things". However, this pattern is very specifically names based on heraldic charges. While a tree eradicated has its root system showing, there are no examples of just a generic "root" in period heraldry, nor is there a unique period depiction thereof that can be used to justify the charge as following period patterns of heraldic charges. Without meeting one of these two criteria, such a heraldic charge cannot be registered. If a charge cannot be registered, its name cannot be used to justify an order name using the pattern heraldic charge. Parker, s.n. tree notes that parts of trees, such as the trunk, branches, stumps, and stock, are used as heraldic charges. In Heraldic Badges (https://books.google.com/books?id=x8ETAAAAYAAJ, p. 78), Fox-Davies blazons the badge of John of Lancaster, Duke of Bedford (a son of Henry IV) as "the root of a tree couped and eradicated or". As documented by the submitter, this badge was referenced in a 15th century poem concerning the death of the Duke, which stated, "The Rote is dead", and both roots and eradicated stumps appear prominently in the page depicting the Duke in the Bedford Hours from the same century (British Library Add. MS 18850, f.256v; http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_18850_f256v). In addition, Fox-Davies (ibid., p. 104) also includes the canting badge of Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester (a son of Edward III), found on a seal: "the stock or root of a tree". Root is the lingua Anglica form of the Middle English Rote or Roote. The Middle English Dictionary defines the term both as "a root of a tree or other plant" and "the base of a tree trunk", so it appears as though this term was used in period to refer to both the eradicated stump/stock and the roots themselves. In addition, modern sources consistently refer to the Duke of Bedford's badge as a root or tree-root. Therefore, we are able to give the Barony the benefit of the doubt that root is a plausible blazonry term for a period heraldic charge, and can register this order name as submitted. The use of the phrase of the Barony of Atenveldt in order names is grandfathered to the submitter. This depiction of palm trees in saltire is grandfathered to the submitter.
Aurora Rose Glasford. Name and device. Purpure, a horse rampant argent and a demi-sun issuant from base Or, a bordure argent semy of butterflies purpure. Submission heralds are cautioned to ensure purples scan accurately into OSCAR, as the electronic scan is now our primary document. If an emblazon that is reportedly purpure looks azure in the scan, this may be at best a pend and at worse an administrative return to ensure clarity of the submission.
Cynthia de la Dale. Name and device. Azure, between four cottonwood leaves in cross a mascle fracted in saltire and on a chief invected argent three fleurs-de-lys vert. The Letter of Intent stated that Cynthia is the submitter's legal given name, but a copy of the submitter's driver's license or other identification was not provided. In the absence of a copy, two witnesses are needed to confirm the information, according to the July 2012 Cover Letter, but this does not appear to have been done. Therefore, the submitter cannot register this element using the legal name allowance. Luckily for the submitter, the Letter of Intent also documented Cynthia to 16th century England. Therefore, we are able to register this name. There is a step from period practice for the use of the leaves of the New World cottonwood tree.
Cynthia de la Dale. Badge. Argent, a fleur-de-lys vert within a mascle fracted in saltire azure.
Elizabeta de Wallachia. Name and device. Sable, a daisy and on a chief doubly-enarched argent three gouttes gules. The Letter of Intent did not provide evidence that the spelling Wallachia was used in period. In commentary, Goutte d'Eau found the phrase de Wallachia in a 1629 Latin text that was translated from French and published in Germany: Commemorationes rerum gestarum Ludovici 11 by Philippe de Commyne (p. 432; http://books.google.com.au/books?id=ges_AAAAcAAJ). Elizabeta was documented as a Hungarian given name. The combination of Hungarian and French is not an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA. However, Elizabeta also is found in a 1609 Latin book published in France: Elogium Henrici Joyosae ordinis Capucinorum. E bibliotheca Papirii Massoni foresii, in senatu parisiensi advocati by Jean-Papire Masson (p. 4; http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k57318544). Therefore, this name is either wholly French or French-German and can be registered. There is a step from period practice for the use of a chief doubly-enarched.
Geoffrey Frost. Name and device. Sable, a chevron argent cotised Or between three lions argent. Nice 15th-16th century English name!
Grace Quinn. Name and device. Argent, three stoppered flasks purpure and a bordure vert semy of elderflowers argent. The question was raised in commentary whether the byname Quinn is an alternative form of the word for "queen". A variant form of this byname is Quyne, which is also a Middle English word meaning "queen". Although we have evidence that the spelling Quyne is used for both Queen and Quinn, we don't have evidence that Quinn was used interchangeably with Queen. Precedent states: The question was raised whether the name was still presumptuous of Roger I and Roger II, because conyng is similar in sound to cyning, könig, and koning, the approved alternate titles for 'king' in Old English, German, and Dutch, respectively. So far as we can tell, conyng is not a valid alternative spelling of any of these words. Thus, any possible presumption rests solely on the pronunciation of the byname. In the past, bynames containing elements that are phonetically identical to protected titles but which are etymologically unrelated to those titles have been ruled to be not presumptuous: There was some question whether the byname McKnight was presumptuous. It is not, as this precedent indicates: Dorothea M'Queyn. Name. The question was raised whether the use of the surname MacQueen or its variants in an SCA name is presumptuous. This precedent is directly relevant to this question: [Registering Mark FitzRoy.] RfS VI.1. states that "Names documented to have been used in period may be used, even if they were derived from titles, provided there is no suggestion of territorial claim or explicit assertion of rank." FitzRoy meets that criteria. RfS VI.3. states that "Names that unmistakably imply identity with or close relationship to a protected person or literary character will generally not be registered." There is no implication of "identity with or close relationship to" any protected individual or character as used here. Consequently, the surname here is not considered pretentious. [6/94, p.8] In this case, the surname may be interpreted by English speakers as "son of the Queen", but that is because it is a phonetic rendering. The name in Gaelic is Mac Shuibhne, whose written form carries no hint of presumption." [LoAR 06/2004] MacKnight is a variant form of MacNaught, which is mac Neachtain in Gaelic. This form clearly carries no hint of presumption. [Godfrey McKnight, LoAR 05/2008, Ealdormere-A] The byname Conyng is etymologically unrelated to the protected alternate forms of King. Thus, the phonetic similarity of Conyng to these forms is insufficient for this byname to be presumptuous. [Roger Conyng de Palermo, March 2009 LoAR, A-Artemisia] In this case, Quinn is either derived from the French word quin ("monkey") or is an Anglicized form of the Gaelic Mac Cuinn (Reaney & Wilson, s.nn. Quin, Quine). Therefore, it is unrelated to Queen and can be registered. Submission heralds are cautioned to ensure purples scan accurately into OSCAR, as the electronic scan is now our primary document. If an emblazon that is reportedly purpure looks azure in the scan, this may be at best a pend and at worse an administrative return to ensure clarity of the submission. Grace Quinn. Badge. (Fieldless) On a stoppered flask purpure an elderflower argent. Submission heralds are cautioned to ensure purples scan accurately into OSCAR, as the electronic scan is now our primary document. If an emblazon that is reportedly purpure looks azure in the scan, this may be at best a pend and at worse an administrative return to ensure clarity of the submission.
Liesele Knapp von Colmberg. Name change from Issobell de Lockford. Submitted as Liesel Knapp von Colmberg, the name was changed in kingdom to Lisle Knapp von Colmberg to match the documentation that could be found. Blue Tyger documented the spelling Liesele in the FamilySearch Historical Records, dated to 1650. As it is closer to what was submitted, we have changed the given name to this spelling. The spelling Colmberg was not dated to period in the Letter of Intent. Blue Tyger found the byname von Colmberg in Warhaffte historische Beschreibung (p. 23; http://books.google.com/books?id=UMZUAAAAcAAJ), dated to 1610. The submitter's previous name, Issobell de Lockford, is retained as an alternate name.
Madok ap Gryffydd. Name and device. Per fess argent and azure, two towers azure and a keythong rampant Or. The submitter requested authenticity for 12th-14th century Welsh culture. This name is authentic for the 13th century, so meets the submitter's request.
Maria of Sun Dragon. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Per pale sable and argent, a cross moline disjointed counterchanged and on a chief gules four roses Or. Submitted under the name Maria Iustinianus.
Meave Sinclair. Name. This name combines an Anglicized Irish given name and Scots byname. As these languages are in the same regional language group, this is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.
Rainulf Lion. Name and device. Quarterly azure and gules, a lion and in dexter chief a mullet argent. As documented in the Letter of Intent, this name combines an English given name and French byname. Lion is also a late 16th century English byname found in the FamilySearch Historical Records, making the name wholly English. Nice device!
Riane Goch. Name and device. Per saltire argent and gules, in chief two chevronels couped and in base a pair of scissors sable. Submitted as Rhiane y' Coch, the submitter requested authenticity for a 12th century Welsh name. The definite article ("the") would be y, not y', but would not be combined with a descriptive byname like Coch ("red") in Welsh. In addition, the byname would mutate to the feminine form, Goch. The name was changed by kingdom to Rhiane Goch. Unfortunately, the given name Rhiane is a modern form and cannot be registered. In commentary, Metron Ariston found the similar sounding, but masculine Rein Coch in Bartram, Early Welsh Genealogical Tracts. Blue Tyger documented Ryane as an English byname dated to the 16th century in the FamilySearch Historical Records. As i/y switches are common in English, both Ryane and Riane are plausible forms of this name. We have changed this name to Riane, as it is the closest to what was submitted. However, this name does not meet the submitter's request for authenticity.
Sa'id al-Sabbah. Name and device. Per bend argent and azure, a polypus sable and a pair of calipers argent.
Sarah in le Frith. Name and device. Azure, a crescent argent and on a chief Or three estoiles azure. Submitted as Sarah le Frith, a frith is a royal wood or game preserve. Forms of the place name include le Frith and le Fryth, both found in the Middle English Dictionary. Attested bynames derived from this locative include the 12th century de Frith, and the 13th century del Frith and in le Frith, all found in Reaney & Wilson, s.n. Frith. The expected unmarked form of this byname is Frith, not le Frith. We have changed the name to the attested in le Frith. If the submitter prefers one of the other forms, she can submit a request for reconsideration. In addition, the Letter of Intent stated that Sarah is the submitter's legal given name, but a copy of the submitter's driver's license or other identification was not provided. In the absence of a copy, two witnesses are needed to confirm the information per the July 2012 Cover Letter, but this does not appear to have been done. Therefore, the submitter cannot register this element using the legal name allowance. Luckily for the submitter, Chanson documented Sarah in commentary as an English given name, so she need not rely on the legal name allowance.
Sofia Elisabetta dal Ponte. Name and device. Per bend Or and vert, a shoe and a sword bendwise counterchanged. The name submission form was written in all capital letters, with the given names spelled two different ways: Sofia Elisabetta and Sophia Elizabetta (using standard capitalization). The name appeared on the Letter of Intent as Sofia Elisabetta Dal Ponte. Kingdom confirmed that the form Sofia Elisabetta was intended, and that the submitter uses the more typical dal Ponte. We have changed the byname accordingly. We note that the form in the Letter of Intent, Dal Ponte, is also plausible.
Zofia of Grodno. Name and device. Per chevron gules and Or, two Ukrainian trident heads and a fox's mask counterchanged. The submitter requested authenticity for "Lithuania/Lithuanian, 14th-16th C.". As this name uses the lingua Anglica (i.e., modern English) form of the byname, of Grodno, it does not meet the submitter's request. However, it is registerable.
The following submissions have been returned by the College of Arms for further work, December 2014:
Caell
Robertson. Device change. Sable, a bat-winged scorpion-tailed
lion gardant Or. Catharin Syl'vestrova. Device. Gyronny azure and Or, four Russian Orthodox crosses two and two counterchanged. This device is returned for excessive counterchanging. SENA A3F4 says: 4. Excessive Counterchanging: While counterchanging was common in period armory, it was used mainly with two or four part divisions of the field. Counterchanging of charges over more complex field divisions (barry, gyronny, etc.) is allowed with a semy or similar group of charges; in that design each charge should be drawn so that it is entirely on a single portion of the field. Here the charges lie over several sections and the counterchanging diminishes identifiability.
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