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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, February 2019:

<Gunni Blóðøx. Name and device. Sable, on a double-bitted axe inverted argent hafted Or the haft winged argent two gouts de sang.
This name does not conflict with the registered Gunnar Bloodax under PN3C1 as there are changes in sound in appearance to two syllables: Gunn-ar vs. Gunni and Bloodax vs. Blóðøx. The character ð is pronounced like "th," not like an English d.
Lisette du Lac. Name and device. Sable, a blonde melusine proper between three fleurs-de-lys argent.

The following submissions were returned for further work, February 2019:

<Leo Hyrulea. Leo of Atenveldt.
Leo Hyrulea _<, the submitter's legal name is <Leo Hyrulea [surname]<. By precedent, the combination of legal first name plus legal middle name cannot be registered because it is considered identical to the name used by the submitter outside the Society. At the request of several commenters, we pended this name to consider whether that precedent should stand. We conclude that it should.
Section IIIA10 of the Admin Handbook states:
No name will be registered to a submitter if it is identical to a name used by the submitter for purposes of identification outside of a Society context. This includes legal names, common use names, trademarks, and other items registered with mundane authorities that serve to identify an individual or group.
By precedent, the combination of a legal given name and legal middle name, in that order, is considered identical to a name used by the submitter outside of the Society and cannot be registered:
The submitter's legal name is <Mari Alexander< [surname]. Therefore, this submission contains the submitter's first two names in the same order as in her legal name. A similar submission was recently returned:
The submission consists of the given names, in order, of the submitter. As this is one of the possible common use names, we have to return this submission for conflict against the submitter herself, protected under section III.A.9 of the Administrative Handbook. [Mary Amanda, 09/00, R-Artemisia]
Therefore, just as <Mari< [surname] would be conflict with her legal name, so the submitted <Mari Alexander< conflicts with her with her legal name. [Mari Alexander, 9/2001 LoAR, R-West]
This precedent was not overturned by SENA. It was upheld as recently as February 2015. [Antoinette Marie, 2/2015 LoAR, R-Atenveldt]
Commentary was strongly in favor of keeping the distinction between one's identity in the Society and one's identity in the modern world. Given the number of people who, upon marriage, turn their former surname into a middle name, the likelihood of legal given name plus legal middle name being an actual use name in the modern world is fairly high. Moreover, a submitter who truly wishes to use their legal given and middle names can do so as long as they add another element, such as <of Atenveldt<, to distinguish their identity in the Society from their identity outside of the Society. Having considered all of the arguments for and against, the existing precedent stands.
Accordingly, the submitted name cannot be registered under Section IIIA10 of the Administrative Handbook because it is effectively identical to the submitter's legal name. For resubmission, the submitter should consider adding an element that is not part of his legal name, such as a local branch name or period place name.




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