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Letter of Intent Kingdom of Atenveldt

Unto Gabriel Lame Duck Laurel (probably Duck Comfit by this time); Andrewe Starry-Eyed Laurel; Lillia Pelican; Brunissende Wreath; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms.

Unless specifically stated, the submitter will accept any spelling and grammar corrections; all assistance is appreciated. Gabriel and his Host: Thank you all! It's been fun!

1. Atenveldt, Barony of: ORDER NAME, Order of the Root of the Barony of Atenveldt and BADGE RESUBMISSIONS,from Laurel, March 2007

Argent, two palm trees, trunks crossed in saltire, and in chief a stump gules.

The original name submission, Order of the Roots of the Barony of Atenveldt, was returned by Laurel: “This name does not follow documented patterns of period order names. The submission was documented as following the pattern "basing a name on Things". However, this pattern is very specifically names based on heraldic charges. While a tree eradicated has its root system showing, there are no examples of just a generic "root" in period heraldry, nor is there a unique period depiction thereof that can be used to justify the charge as following period patterns of heraldic charges. Without meeting one of these two criteria, such a heraldic charge cannot be registered. If a charge cannot be registered, its name cannot be used to justify an order name using the pattern heraldic charge.”

The badge submission, Gules, two palm trees eradicated, trunks crossed in saltire, argent rooted Or., was returned: “This badge is returned for lack of identifiability. The roots are detached from the palm trees, making them impossible to identify as roots. The palm trees do not resemble palm trees - the "leaves" are drawn incorrectly. While the barony has other armory with crossed palms, those trees do not resemble the trees in this submission; thus the style of the palm trees is not grandfathered to the barony.”

The name of the Order is the most important. The Exerpta historica, or Illustrations of English History, published in 1831 and presented to Henry, Baron Brougham and Vaux, Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain (, includes a poem on the fate of the Duke of Suffolk, was commemorated by Ritson, and includes the passing of the John Plantagenet, also known as the Duke of Bedford and as John of Gaunt,the third son of Henry IV; his badge was “the Root of a Tree, couped and eradicated Or.” (this is in the footnotes). The poem itself:
“The Rote is dead. The Swanne is goon
The firy Cresset hath lost his lyght” (

An illumination in the Bedford hours (dated c. 1410-1430) that includes heraldic standards and a number of rather florid stumps with their attached root systemsas marginalia, along with John of Gaunt kneeling prominently in the picture, demonstrate the use of stumps, and stumps with their roots as armorial charges. ( It appears that John's armorial badge was a recognizable stump and root in period, and didn't depend on displaying an entire tree to consider it an heraldic charge, and that could be blazoned as a Rote.

Earlier spellings are seen as rote (1390) and roote (1573).

The client will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.

The badge has been redrawn in the manner of the pair of palm trees recognized and registered to the Barony of Atenveldt. The unusual “roots” of the palm rees has been eliminated (palms themselves have odd, very non-heraldic root systems, more of a ball than a branchlike system). Instead, a simple stump is used in chief; the Barony uses this point to situate a number of charges used in its various badges.

2. Aurora Rose Glasford: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Purpure, a horse rampant argent and a demi-sun issuant from base Or, a bordure argent charged with a semy of butterflies purpure.

The name is English. Double given names are permitted for late period English names,

Aurora was allowed as a grey-period English name per the October 2011 LoAR (for Aurora Swanhild's name submission): William Alexander used <Aurora> in the early part of the grey period as a name for his (presumably human) mistress, to whom his poems are addressed. You can see, for example, this in Google Books, Specimens of the British Poets: With Biographical and Critical Notices. Brittanica dates the Aurora sonnets to 1604. In the April 2013 LoAR for Aurora Katherine d'Hiver: “...The closely related name Aurora can be justified as a constructed English given name. There is a pattern in sixteenth century England of coining new given names derived from classical mythology, including the names of minor goddesses like Aurora. Eastern Crown found several equivalent names in the IGI Parish Records extracts, including Phoebe, Dione, Clymene, Selene, Maia, and Thalia."

Rose is a feminine given name for Rose Adams, a christening name from 1586, C04697-2,

Glasford is dated to 1599 for Elizabeth Glasford's christening date, Batch C00813-3,

Submitter desires a feminine name and will accept no major changes to the name.

3. Caell Robertson: NEW DEVICE CHANGE
Sable, a winged manticore gardant Or.

The name was registered June 2013.

This doesn't appear to be an heraldic manticore, which has a man's head/face, often with three rows of teeth. This can be blazoned accurately as a bat-winged, scorpion-tailed lion salient gardant.

Basil Dragonstrike did extensive detective work on this, citing manticores and mantygers in SCA and real-world armory, and it can be found in its entirety can be found at . I concur with his conclusion:
“I have checked Parker, Fox-Davies, and Franklyn's
Shield and Crest, and found a good deal of disagreement as to the exact appearance of a manticore (none of them had pictures, unfortunately). There is agreement that the body is that of a lion, but then they disagree on whether the whole head is human, or only the face, and on whether there are or aren't horns on the head, and on what difference (if any) there is between a manticore/mantegre/man-tiger, a lympago, a man-lion, and a satyral. OTOH, every depiction of a manticore I've ever seen before this (all have been outside of heraldry) had a scorpion's tail, and nearly all had wings.
“Given the history of registrations of manticores in the SCA...I
think this should be blazoned as given. Regarding the return of Aeron's/Anastasia's device, we need to find out if the submission had wings and a scorpion's tail, or not, and if a scorpion's tail is worth a second DC (other than the one for adding wings), before deciding if this conflicts with Belgium or not.”

The arms of Belgium: Sable, a lion rampant Or. There is definitely 1 DC for the addition of the wings, but whether the addition of a hefty scorpion tail is worth a second DC is debatable. The usual head orientations and rampant vs. salient usually do not contribute to difference. If there is a default SCA manticore that satisfies all the requirements of a <human head/face + wings + lion body + scorpion tail>, then this might be a complex winged lion, but still a lion, not a manticore.

If registered, his currently-registered device, Per pale argent and sable, a dolmen counterchanged., should be retained as a badge.

4. Catharin Syl'vestrova: NEW DEVICE
Gyronny azure and Or, four Russian Orthodox crosses two and two counterchanged.

The name was registered June 2014.

5. Cynthia de la Dale: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Azure, a mascle fracted in saltire between four cottonwood leaves bases to center, on a chief invected argent three fleurs-de-lys vert.

The name is English.
Cynthia is the client's legal given name and so is using the Legal Name Allowance. Additionally, Cynthia Heward was christened 1566 in England. Familysearch batch no. C05034-1 (
de la Dale is dated to 1275 in Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, p. 124, s.n. Dale.

The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound and the language/culture of the name (English).

Orle Herald comments: “We can document Spanish explorers in areas where there are specifically cottonwood trees on the Rio Grande. I did this the last time I saw this design. It just gives it a SFPP for a New World leaf.”

These trees are also common in the Old World as poplars, with similar, rather diamond-shaped leaves, and could so be considered fine as an Old

World charge. (I suspect that the client leans toward the submitted blazon, as she lives in Cottonwood, Arizona—no kidding!).

It was suggested that the submission be reblazoned as Azure, four cottonwood leaves in cross bases to center around a mascle fracted in saltire, on a chief invected argent three fleurs-de-lys vert., sinee there was some thought that the mascle as drawn here is a secondary; if the client wishes this appearance, it will have to be blazoned as a secondary.

6. Cynthia de la Dale: NEW BADGE
Argent, a fleur-de-lys vert within a mascle fracted in saltire azure.

There was a suggestion/note to the submitter that the mascle fracted be drawn larger and thicker.

7. Elizabeta de Wallachia: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Sable, a daisy and on a chief double-arched argent three gouts gules.

Elizabeta is a Hungarian and a Romanian female given name, found in “Hungarian Feminine Names,” Walraven van Nijmegen,

Wallachia is the southern region of modern Romania, “the Land of the Walachs,” the indiginous people of the area. The Olt River divides Wallachia into Muntenia in the east and Oltenia in the west (

Basil Dragonstrike's research notes that “'Walachia' is the spelling used by the OED and the EB; it is the standard modern English name for the region. The OED has, for the etymology of 'Walachian': "<Walachia (in medieval Latin the country of the Walachs or Vlachs; in modern use with narrower application, one of the two principalities which united to form the kingdom of Rumania, and subsequently the People's Republic of Romania) + -an suffix," and that the first citation of any similar word is from 1603, spelled as"Valachians". The first spelling with a W is from 1718 (both sn Walachian). There's no way to find out if 'Walachia' per se is a period word. And, the MED is not coming up with anything.”

The preposition de can mean “from, of, about,”
The client desires a female name; she will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.

The device was redrawn at Kingdom to enlarge the daisy and enhance its appearance as a flower, and to render the gouts in a period manner; the original gouts were drawn in the non-period, prohibited fashion. The use of a chief double-arched is a Step from Period Practice.

8. Geoffrey Frost: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Sable, a chevron argent cotised Or between three lions rampant argent.

The name is English.
Geoffrey is a masculine given name in "Yorkshire Masculine Names from 1379," Talan Gwynek,; it is also the client's legal given name.

Frost is an English surname found in "Names from 15th Century York," Karen Larsdatter,

Submitter desires a masculine name, and spelling most important.

The cotises, particularly the lower one, are inconsistent in thickness, though we think that no more than an artist's note is warranted.

9. Ginvilas Ašarų: NEW NAME

The name is Lithuanian.
Ginvilas is a Lithuanian given name,, "Pre-Christian Name Giving in Lithuania," K.A. Girvilas. Ginvilas was a prince of Lithuania,1282-1315, rch=Search). In addition, Lietuvos didžiojo kunigaikščio žirgų ūkis ir jo administravimas XIV a. pab. - XVI a. vid. [Horse studs/farming and their administration in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, from the end of the 14th c. to the mid-16th c.] by Gintautė Narkevičiūtė mentions a Lithuanian stableman in the 15th century pp. 48-9:
( and
1434 m. - Ginvilas.
Ginvilas (Giniwilo, Gyniwił, Ginwił) - pagal U2, minimas 1434 06 09 kaip Vilniaus arklidininkas. Buvo pirmasis Trakų seniūnas.

[1434 - Ginvilas.
The byname is a descriptive, meaning "insensitive, insensible, impassive, tearless, rocky, dead," but with further Googling, it actually seems to mean lachrymal (prone to crying, weepy): the appropriate term for impassive or tearless should be nejatrus ašarų, and for "tearless" specifically, be ašarų or neliejantis ašarų (; The client would like a term that is specifically "tearless" (in sense of insensitive or dead of emotions, rather than all weepy), and be ašarų seems closest to his original submission. Unfortunately, Goutte d'Eau concludes that:
“It was only when official registration became necessary and the system of passports was instituted that people began to use the first and family name in a systematic fashion. If there was no official family name, frequently the nickname was used and at this period nicknames were very popular. This explains the origin of many Lithuanian names, e.g., Rėksnys ('shouter, bawler,' cf. rėkti 'to shout, to cry'), Beragis ('hornless,' cf. be 'without' and ragas 'horn), Aukštakojis ('longlegged,' cf. aukštas 'tall, high' and koja 'leg'), etc."
“He's referring to the 18th century at the earliest, at least as far as I can tell, so the form of <personal name> <nickname> we just don't seem to have much evidence for in the SCA's period.” Would it be possibly that as a last resort, he might have lingua Anglica regisered, as Ginvilas the <fill in the blank>if a fully Lithuanian name, with a byname, cannot be found prior to the end of period?
Many thanks to Goutte d'Eau, who did incredible work upon this. The entirety of her work can be seen in the 7 March 2014 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation,

The client desires a male name and is most interested in the language/culture of the name. He will not take Major Changes.

10. Grace Quinn: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Argent, three stoppered vials purpure, on a bordure vert a semy of elderflowers argent barbed and seeded Or.

Grace is an English feminine vernacular form, 1346-1562 (and preceding this), in "Feminine Given Names in "A Dictionary of English Surnames: Grece," Talan Gwynek,

Quinne and Quine are English surnames dated 1275, Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, s.n. Quin, Quinn. Quine is also a Manx surname in 1504, Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, s.n. Quine, Quinn. The slight spelling difference seems to be acceptable, with the double -n- in the 1275 spelling (I found nothing for a dropped -e dated citation).

Submitter desires a feminine name a will accept any language or culture in which Grace is a given name.

The elderflower, with five petals, will conflict with roses and similar five-petaled blossoms. However, I believe that the blossoms should be blazoned as elderflowers to match the client's original submission, as she renders them with almost dart-like or arrow-like barbs, as are seen in a photo provided by Basil Dragonstrike: Basil also notes that the elder tree actually puts out what's called an inflorescence; what's depicted here is a single floret. As you'll note when you check the photo, the "barbs" are actually not between, but "above" the petals. In this submission, the artist has "flattened" the floret (visually speaking), which makes for a more heraldic look.

11. Grace Quinn: NEW BADGE
(Fieldless) A stoppered vial purpure charged with an elderflower argent barbed and seeded Or.

The elderflower, with five petals, will conflict with roses and similar five-petaled blossoms. However, I believe that the blossoms should be blazoned as elderflowers to match the client's original submission, as she renders them with almost dart-like or arrow-like barbs, as are seen in a photo provided by Basil Dragonstrike: Basil also notes that the elder tree actually puts out what's called an inflorescence; what's depicted here is a single floret. As you'll note when you check the photo, the "barbs" are actually not between, but "above" the petals. In this submission, the artist has "flattened" the floret (visually speaking), which makes for a more heraldic look.

12. Kevin the Wayfarer: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Gules, a hart's head cabossed and on a chief Or three estoiles sable.

Kevin is the client's legal given name.

A wayfarer is a traveler, particularly one who goes by foot; this spelling can be dated to 1602, and earlier spellings date to c. 1440 (COED).

It's very likely that the article the can and should be dropped, as there are no prohibitions on correcting the name.

The submission was redrawn at the kingdom level, as the original was colored with wax crayons.

13. Lia le Citolur: DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, June 2012
Per bend sinister azure and vert, on a bend sinister between to semiminims argent a heart palewise gules entwined by a flowering woodbine vert flowered Or.

The name was registered June 2012.

The previous submission, Argent, a heart of woodvine vine vert flowered Or and a bordure wavy sable semy of semiminims Or., was returned for a redraw, "for using an unblazonable, unidentifiable vine. No evidence was provided, and none was found by commenters, that a "heart-shape" was a valid arrangement in period armory. Commenters also confused this vine with a laurel wreath, which is a restricted charge, due to the similar shape of the leaves. The flowers depicted on this vine were too small to be noticed. It is unlikely that any vine with similarly shaped leaves depicted in a circular arrangement would not be confused with a laurel wreath."

We've tried to beef up the blossoms and contain them on the heart for the best contrast.

14. Lisle Knapp von Colmberg: NEW NAME CHANGE from Issobell de Lockford

The current name was registered September 2001; when the new name is registered, this should be retained as an alternate.

The name was originally submitted as Liesel Knapp von Colmberg. Liesel has something of a history, documented from Academy of S. Gabriel Report #2910. The report says: <Liesel> is a diminutive of <Liese>, a pet form of <Elisabeth> [2]. We have not found a period example of <Liesel> in any spelling or of <Liese> in that specific spelling, but in our Arnsburg data the spelling <Lyse> is well represented in the first half of the 14th century and is found through the 15th century...None of the commenters were able to provide evidence for either Liese or Liesel in our period. Barring such evidence, these spellings are not registerable. The information from the S. Gabriel Report suggests that Lysel is a possible form of the name, though Lysele is more likely." (The name in consideration at the time was registered as Lysel.) Alternately, the client would consider Lisle, a Swedish feminine given name dated to 1525, in "Swedish Feminine Given Names from SMP," Aryanhwy merch Catmael,
Knapp is a German surname dated to 1577 for Margreth Knapp, Batch M94361-1,
Colmberg is a municipality in the district of Ansbach in Bavaria in Germany; it is the site of Colmberg Castle (German: Burg Colmberg), built in the 13th century and purchased in 1318 by Duke Frederick IV of Nuremberg,,
Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes,, permits mixing of Swedish and German name element in late period (post-1600).

15. Madok ap Gryffydd: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per fess argent and azure, two towers azure and a keythong rampant Or.

The name is Welsh. Both elements are masculine given Welsh names, found in "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names," Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn,
The client desires a male name, and meaning is most important. He desires a name authentic for 12th-14th C. Welsh culture.

16. Maria Iustinianus: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per pale sable and argent, a disjointed moline cross counterchanged and on a chief gules four roses Or.

The name is Byzantine Greek.

Maria is a feminine name found in "Common Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the 6th and 7th Centuries," Berret Chavez,

Iustinianus is a masculine given name found in the same source, Construction on names of the period is found in "Personal Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the Later Byzantine Era," Single or married, a woman would have her father or husband's name appended to her own name, either of those feminized. It's likely that this is Maria Iustinianina, based on the chart at (and Schwartzdrachen Herald).

The submitter desires a feminine name, with no Major Changes to the name. The language and culture (Byzantine Greek) is most important.

17. Meave Sinclair: NEW NAME
Meave is a feminine given name dated to 1584, "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents: Women's Names," Mari ingen Briain,

Sinclair is a header found in Black's Surnames of Scotland, with the spelling Sinclaire in 1598 and Syndklair in 1526. Maria Sinclair has a christening date of 1673 in England, Batch K03721-2, (=

The client desires a feminine name, and meaning is most important to her.

18. Rainulf Lion: NEW NAME and NEW DEVICE
Quarterly azure and gules, a lion and in dexter chief a mullet argent.

The name is French. Rainulf Dregnot, d. 1045, was a Norman mercenary who became the first Count Aversia in Italy (The Norman Conquest of Southern Italy and Sicily, Gordon S. Brown, kwqxcMHR&sig=8Jd_qVATHvSLliCjYEAdfgviIG0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3kH5U9org_qLAuLogfgE&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg#v=onepa ge&q=Rainulf%20Dregnot&f=false). The Latin Rainulfus appears in a charter found in The Devonshire Domesday and geld inquest: Extensions, translations and indices, Volume 1 at p. 542 ( That puts the name to 1086. Rainulf would be the expected vernacular form.
Both Lion and Lyon are found as given names in "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris," Colm Dubh, In French, unmarked patronymics are more common than marked,

19. Rhiane Goch: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per saltire argent and gules, two chevronels couped in fess and a pair open scissors sable.

The name is Welsh. Rhiane is said to be found in "Concerning the Names Rhiannon, Rhian, and the Like." Josh Mittleman and Heather Rose Jones,, which is not a good place to document a period name, as the theme of these articles is to demonstrate that these names are largely not period. Furthermore, Rhiane itself is not found in the article. If anyone can help documenting this name, it would be appreciated.

Coch is a personal byname for "red," found in "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names," Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn,, although it appears that the period form is Goch ones that appears in a medieval source. Scharzdrachen agrees that in a feminine name, Coch mutates to Goch.

The client desires a feminine name, and the sound it most important. She requests authenticity for the Welsh language/culture, for the 12th C.

(The original name submission was Rhiane y' Coch. The Welsh definite article is y, not y', and with a descriptive byname like Coch, it isn't used in the name. In a feminine name, <Coch> mutates to <Goch>. Thank you, Schwarzdrachen!)

20. Sa'id al-Sabbah: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per bend argent and azure, a polypus sable and a pair of calipers sable.

The name is Arabic. Sa’id is a masculine 'ism/given name. al-Sabbah is a masculine cognomen used as 'isms, including both laquabs and nisbas. Both element are found in “Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices,” Da'ud ibn Auda, Sa'īd (eliminating the diacriticals in the name for consistency) is a male 'ism found in “Arabic Names from al-Andalus: Masculine isms,” Juliana de Luna (
There is proof of al-Sabbah as a laqab/nisba. Note in Da'ud's article the name "Abu Muqatil al-Nadr ibn al-Munqadi al-Daylami". In this name, the nasab uses the father's laqab/nisba: "ibn al-Munqadi". With that in mind, consider the following Google Book: There you will find the name Al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ṣabbāh; this citation spells the name "al-Ṣabbāḥ" with under-dots and macrons. SENA Appendix D, section F says: "we will register a simplified form that omits macons (long marks) over letters and replaces emphatic (dotted) consonants with undotted ones.", such that al-Sabbah is registrable. The combination of an 'ism with a laqab/nisba is registerable.

The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound of the name. He will not accept Major changes to the name.

The emblazon was redrawn upon consulting with the client, to keep the tentacles a little more at bay (in base, rather than in chief) and the beast identifiable.

21. Sarah le Frith: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Azure, a crescent argent and on a chief Or, three estoiles azure.

Sarah is the client's legal given name.

I'm not certain if the byname is an acceptable abbreviation for a small town in Derbyshire, Chapel-en-le-Frith. Prism Pursuivant found documentation for Frith, del Frith and Frith Manor:

Alice Frith "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch ( ; Alice Frith, 1599; citing Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England, reference - 2:2JR3JFD; FHL microfilm 1040438;
Frith is an old-English word for forest, and Chapel-en-le-Frith is the settlement which grew up around the church which was erected here by Foresters from the Royal Forest of the Peak in 1225.
UK National archives: Duffield Frith manor (addnl): court book 1598-1604 (D5828);

Needwood and Duffield Frith manors: custumal 16th cent (D3287/59/25)
Frith manor : The abbots of Westminster also held the rectory estate, which was managed separately. The rectory was valued at £20 in 1291 (fn. 70) and was leased to John Lamb, the farmer of Frith manor, in 1487. Frith and Newhall: The third medieval manor in Hendon owned by Westminster was that of FRITH and NEWHALL. It was first mentioned by name as a manor in 1500 (fn. 32) but the estate probably included lands in Hendon granted to the abbey c. 1222-46 by Walter del Frith and Ernald, son of Roger del Frith. (fn. 33)

The byname is acceptable, but it's the article that's in question (unless a contraction or drop of some of the elements in the locative Chapel-en-le-Frith is possible).

22. Sitriuc Sionnach Liath: NAME and DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, May 2012

Per chevron Or and vert, two pommes each charged with a triskelion of armored legs Or and a winged sea-fox naiant argent.

The original submissions were returned for the following reasons: “Submitted as Sitriuc Liathsionnach, the element Liathsionnach was documented as a constructed descriptive byname meaning "gray-haired/aged fox". Although we have one example of color + animal name (in Eich Gil "[of] the White Horse"), we do not have evidence of a compound noun constructed from a color term like liath preceding the animal name. Without examples to justify such a construction, we cannot register this name.

“The submitter allowed a change to Sitruic mac Sinaig Liath. However, we cannot make this change because we do not have evidence to support the pattern of a descriptive byname as part of a patronym. In addition, the patronym mac Sinaig Liath ("Sinaig [the] Gray-haired's son") combines the Middle Irish Sinaig and Early Modern Irish Liath in the same name phrase. This is not allowed under PN.1.B.1 of SENA, which requires that, "A registerable name phrase must follow the rules of grammar and structure for a single time and place. It may not mix languages unless that mixing of languages within a name phrase is attested as a period practice".

“We would change the name to Sitriuc liath mac Sinach. ("Sitruic [the] gray-haired, Sinaig's son"), but this is a major change, which the submitter does not allow. Therefore, we are forced to return this name.

“This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Commenters were unable to reliably identify the winged sea-fox here; the wings are drawn too small, and the head is not sufficiently fox-like.”

The name is Irish Gaelic.

Sitriuc is a Middle Irish Gaelic male given name, dated multiple times 917-1195 (“Index of Names in Irish Annals: Sitriucc / Sitriuc / Sitreac, Sitriuc,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan,

We still hope to construct an acceptable byname, based on in Eich Gil, “[of] the White Horse,” along with descriptive elements (gray-haired, fox), both which are found in “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Masculine Descriptive Bynames,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, Sionnach, “the fox,” is an Early Modern Gaelic male name dated examples running 1233 to 1500 (ibid.,, and it's also a common noun for “fox,” in Lexilogos, Irish Gaelic Dictionary, The same source also gives “grey” as liath, We think our greatest fault here, with having to adhere as closely to the rare Eich Gil, was to have used the formation <noun (an animal in this case) + adjective (color)>, such that the bynames “match,” hence sionnach laith (when the phrase “grey fox,” is entered, the <noun+adjective> completely follows the pattern). We aren't certain if an article is required with the byname (in, as in in Eich Gil, or na nGamhnach, “of the Milch Cows,” but I think the client will be fine adding it is necessary. (I still wonder if White Horse refers to an inn with a vanishingly rare name, or it's associated with a fellow with the biggest and bestest white horse in all or Ireland, or with a rather popular whiskey label that must go back centuries!)

The client desires a male name. He is most interested in the language/culture of the name; he will not accept Major changes to the name.

The device has been redrawn, so that the monster is about as clearly a winged sea-fox as we can muster.

23. Sofia Elisabetta Dal Ponte: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per bend Or and vert, a shoe and a sword bendwise counterchanged.

The name is Italian/Venetian.

Sofia and Elisabetta are feminine given names, found in "Late Period Italian Women's Names: Venice," Juliana de Luna, Double given names are found in Italian (SENA: Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation by Language Group, Italian).

Dal Ponte (a Signa) is a family name found in "Late Period Italian Women's Names: Florence," Juliana de Luna,

The client desires a feminine name and the sound is most important. She will not accept Major Changes.

24. Zofia of Grodno: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per chevron gules and Or, two Ukranian trident heads and a fox's mask counterchanged.

The name is Lithuanian.

Zofia is found among other variations of the name in "16th and early 17th C. feminine names from Lithuanian records," Rebecca Lucas, (Her original choice of Zofią is in the accusative case, and personal names are only registered in the nominative case, without the ogonek. Thanks to ffride wlffsdotter (also known as Rebecca Lucas) for commentary on this.)

The Grodno region lies in western Belarus and Grodno itself was one of the oldest cities in historical Lithuania: it was first mentioned in the Chronicles of 1128 ( This is the lingua anglica form of the byname, we find Latin <Grodna> in Braun and Hogenberg's Civitates Orbis Terrarum, from 1575 ( and image 1). If Wikipedia is to be believed, then the modern English form of the city name is <Grodno> (,, and a more accurate/authentic might involve Grodna; I don't know how the name as a whole might be constructed for authenticity.
The client desires a feminine name, and language/culture (Lithuanian) is most important to her. She requests authenticity for Lithuania /Lithuanian, 14th-16th C.

I was assisted in the preparation of this Letter of Intent by Alys Mackyntoich (Blue Tyger), Aria Gemina Mala, Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Schwarzdrachen), Basil Dragonstrike, ffride wlffsdotter (Goutte d'Eau), Gunnvor silfraharr (Orle), Matilda Wynter, Michel von Schiltach, Sorcha inghen Chon Mhara (Prism) and Tanaka Ujimori.

This letter contains 16 New Names, 1 New Name Change, 15 New Devices, 1 New Device Change and 2 New Badges. There are 1 Resubmitted Name, 1 Resubmitted Order Name, 2 Resubmitted Devices and 1 Resubmitted Badge. There are a total of 40 items submitted on this letter, 35 of them new.

Thank you to those who have provided your great indulgence and patience, your expertise and your willingness to share it thus far, and to those who will do the same as this is presented to the College entire.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy
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