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                                                                                                                                                                                15 September 2002, A.S. XXXVII

                                                                                                                                                                                Kingdom of Atenveldt



Unto Francois la Flamme, Laurel King of Arms; Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, Pelican Queen of Arms; Zenobia Naphtali, Wreath Queen of Arms; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald!



Please note corrections for submissions which appears in the 20 August 2002 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:


30. Domingo Diaz de la Vega y Martin: NEW CHANGE OF DEVICE

Or, a morion and on a chief wavy sable, three birds volant bendwise sinister Or.

 

The name was registered April 2000. Please note that this is a change from the holding name Charles of Starkhafen, which itself was registered October 1995, via the Kingdom of Caid.

If registered, the submitter wishes to retain his current device, Or, a morion and on a chief wavy sable three birds volant bendwise Or., as a badge. (This device is currently seen only under the holding name, Charles of Starkhafen, in the Ordinary, and all armories should be shifted to Domingo Diaz de la Vega y Martin.)


On that LoI, the blazon was correct, but the emblazon of the change of device was wrong.


41. Lachlan McBean: CHANGE OF HOLDING NAME to Lachlan McBean of Ashie Moor, December 2000

The submitter’s original name submission Lachlan McBean of Kinchyle, was returned by the CoA in December 2000 for using Kinchyle, the clan seat of the MacBean, and these names cannot be combined in this matter, suggesting too strongly that the submitter is the leader of the clan.

Ashie Moor is an area near Kinchyle, overlooking Loch Ness (www.nzghosts.co.nz).


The resubmitted name is Lochlan MacBean of Ashie Moor.

Lochlann is a disused form of Lachlan, of which different forms were used as given names (Laccan Doncanson c. 1470) and bynames (Eugene fiz Loghlan, c. 1296; Adam Lachlan, c. 1417), all found in Black’s Surnames of Scotland, p. 410. This doesn’t seem to be an unreasonable spelling variation.

MacBean, this spelling undated, is found in Black, pp. 457-8. The name as a whole appears to be an Anglicized form of a Scots name.



The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms. Unless specifically stated, the submitter will accept spelling and grammar corrections; assistance in these areas is appreciated.



1. Adam Carlos Diaz de Castile: NEW DEVICE

Pean, an heraldic tyger rampant Or, a bordure embattled Or charged with six crosses Espada gules.

 

The name appears in the 20 August 2002 Atenveldt Letter of Intent.

 

Against Christiana Ann Steen: Quarterly azure and ermine, a tyger rampant regardant, a bordure raguly Or., there is 1 CD for difference of field and 1 CD for the addition of tertiary charges. The submitter has provided a rendering of a cross Espada, taken from The Knights of Christ, by Terence Wise, ISBN# 0-85045-604-5, pp. 28-29, 32-33, 34, 36.  




2. Aleyn Randwulf: NEW DEVICE

Per pale azure and gules, a pair of eyes Or.

The name was registered May 2001.

Consider the armory of Melisande Shadow: Sable, two cat's eyes vert pupilled sable and fimbriated argent. There is 1 CD for the difference in field tincture and 1 CD for the difference in tinctures of the sole primary group of charges.




3. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: TRANSFER OF HERALDIC TITLE, Aspen Pursuivant, resubmission from Laurel, January 2002

This title for the Barony of Caerthe, should be transferred to the Kingdom of the Outlands. The submission was originally returned by the CoA in January 2002 because a letter of acceptance was not received from the Kingdom of the Outlands.

4. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: TRANSFER OF HERALDIC TITLE, Fretty Pursuivant, resubmission from Laurel, January 2002

This title for the Outlands College of Heralds, should be transferred to the Kingdom of the Outlands. The submission was originally returned by the CoA in January 2002 because a letter of acceptance was not received from the Kingdom of the Outlands.


5. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: TRANSFER OF HERALDIC TITLE, Liber Pursuivant, resubmission from Laurel, January 2002

This title for the Freehold of Great River/Shire of Nahrun Kabirun, should be transferred to the Kingdom of the Outlands. The submission was originally returned by the CoA in January 2002 because a letter of acceptance was not received from the Kingdom of the Outlands.


6. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: TRANSFER OF HERALDIC TITLE, Palmer Pursuivant, resubmission from Laurel, January 2002

This title for the Deputy to White Stag, should be transferred to the Kingdom of the Outlands. The submission was originally returned by the CoA in January 2002 because a letter of acceptance was not received from the Kingdom of the Outlands.


7. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: TRANSFER OF HERALDIC TITLE, Rook Pursuivant, resubmission from Laurel, January 2002

This title for the Barony of Citadel of the Southern Pass, should be transferred to the Kingdom of the Outlands. The submission was originally returned by the CoA in January 2002 because a letter of acceptance was not received from the Kingdom of the Outlands.


8. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: TRANSFER OF HERALDIC TITLE, Scalene Pursuivant, resubmission from Laurel, January 2002

This title for the Barony of Dragonspine, should be transferred to the Kingdom of the Outlands. The submission was originally returned by the CoA in January 2002 because a letter of acceptance was not received from the Kingdom of the Outlands.




9. Bertrand de Lacy: DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, February 2002

Per bend sinister Or and vert, a Lacy knot and an orle, all counterchanged.

 

The name was registered February 2002.

 

The original submission Per bend sinister Or and vert, a Lacy knot counterchanged., was returned for conflict with the protected badge of the Lacy family (important non-SCA armory) (Tinctureless) A Lacy knot. There is only 1 CD for fieldlessness, nothing for a tinctured charge vs. one on a tinctureless badge. Adding the orle provides the second CD. Additionally his son, Thomas de Lacy, provides a Letter of Permission to Conflict with his registered armory, Per bend sinister Or and vert, a Lacy knot counterchanged and a label sable.




10. Bláithín inghean Bhradaigh: NEW NAME

The name is Irish. Bláithín is a feminine given name (p. 32, Ó Corráin and Maguire).

Bhrádaigh is constructed from Mac Brádaigh (p. 24, MacLysaght, under (Mac) Brady), which seems to be a reasonable way of constructing a genitive form of that name; while I’ve been unable to find Brádaigh “standing alone” as a Irish masculine given name, it would seem that at some point in Irish history, it might’ve been a masculine given name.

The submitter will not accept major changes to the submission.




11. Bláithín inghean Bhradaigh: NEW DEVICE

Per bend sinister Or and argent, a gilly flower purpure, slipped and leaved vert, and a human footprint sable.




12. Bláithín inghean Bhradaigh: NEW BADGE

Argent, semy of hawks bells purpure, a frog vert.











 

13. Catelin Munro of Ailsa: NEW BADGE

Per saltire sable and argent, a Catherine wheel and a bordure gules.

 

The name was registered April 1998.


 

14. Cuilén Gordon of Tir Ysgithr: NAME RESUBMISSION from Laurel, January 2002

The submitter’s original submission, Cuilén of the Gordons, was returned for failure to show this as a period name construction; while Cuilén Gordon was cited as registerable style, it would be in conflict with Colin Gordon, registered in June 1998. The submitter has added a locative, his home barony, to clear the conflict with Colin Gordon.

Cuilén is an Irish masculine given name (p. 66, Ó Corráin and Maguire).

Gordon is a Scottish surname popular in Ireland (p. 132, MacLysaght).



15. Katheryn Slegel: NAME APPEAL for registration of the name Katheryn von Schlegel

In the November 2001 LoAR, in which the name was registered as Katheryn Slegel, commentary notes that “The submitter’s name was originally submitted as Katheryn von Schlegel, the submitter requested authenticity for the 13th to 16th C (no language/culture specified) and allowed any changes. Schlegel is not a placename...All period examples of this byname found by the College are spelled Sl-. To comply with the submitter's request for authenticity, we have changed the byname to the form Slegel dated to 1309 in Bahlow, Deutsches Namenlexikon, (s.n. Schleg(e)l).”

 

I think that the request was somewhat misleading, as the submitter desired to use her legal maiden name Schlegel, with that spelling (moreso than it being a period form) as an element of her SCA name, and she had thought it was a place name in Germany (or a surrounding country); I also did less than sterling job at promoting this for her. We’d cited Friedrich von Schlegel (1772-1829), a German writer, critic and philosopher, as a post-period use of the name and have found a little closer (but still post-period) example of von Schlegel with Katharina Amalia Dorothea von Schlegel (1697-1768), a courtier of the ducal court in Cöthen and a hymn-writer (http://www.cyberhymnal.org/bio/v/o/vonschlegel_kad.htm).


The submitter has provided a copy of her birth certificate (to Laurel) demonstrating the surname spelling Schlegel, and she also supplies a listing of German municipalities, which shows a municipality of Schlegel in the state/land of Thueringen, and two in Sachsen, suggesting that these are places that would support the von Schlegel construction (http://www.faerber.muc.de/dmoz/de-gemeinden/s.html).



16. Katheryn Slegel: NEW DEVICE

Purpure, a mulberry branch fructed Or between flaunches argent.

 

While I am assuming that a healthy heraldic branch is leaved, I’ve added fructed to the blazon to connote that there are also mulberries on the branch.



17. Lochlan MacBean of Ashie Moor: NEW DEVICE

Argent, a bird’s talon erased bendwise sinister sustaining a thistle bendwise proper.

 

The holding name was registered December 2000. His name resubmission appears in the August 2002 Atenveldt LoI, and is corrected above.

 

We believe that the thistle is large enough to be considered sustained by the talon, and that both charges are co-primaries.



 

18. Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy: NEW AUGMENTATION OF ARMS

Per chevron vert and Or, in base a satyr dancing and piping proper and as an augmentation on a canton azure a sun in glory and a bordure Or.

 

The name was registered August 1979.

 

The original armory, minus the augmentation, was registered in August 1979. The Augmentation of Arms was granted 3 August 2002. The augmentation follows the style registered to Hastini Chandra, in order to give the greatest contrast between the registered armory and the elements of the augmentation.

19. Molon Munokhoi Tsagaan: DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, March 2001

Or, four roundels two and two, a bordure gules.

 

The name was registered March 2001.

 

The submitter’s original submission, Gules, on a bezant four roundels two and two gules., was returned for violation of RfS XI.4 Arms of Pretense, “Armory that uses charges in such a way as to appear to be arms of pretense or an unearned augmentation of honor is considered presumptuous. Period and modern heraldic practice asserts a claim to land or property by surmounting an individuals usual armory with a display of armory associated with that claim. Such arms of pretense are placed on an escutcheon. Similarly, an augmentation of honor often, though not necessarily, takes the form of an independent coat placed on an escutcheon or canton.” Some redesign of the original device resolves this problem.




20. Padraig Dillon of Liaththor: NEW NAME CHANGE to Wilhelus le Cassé

The name is French. Wilhelus is found in “Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedemann/names/bordeaux.htm).

le Cassé, is a locative byname, “a man from Cassé,” a region in southwestern France (p. 92, Dauzat).

If registered, he wishes his currently-held name released.



 

21. Stefania Krakowska: NEW DEVICE

Vert, a spider and a bordure, argent.

 

The name was registered June 2002.

 

This is clear of Jaime da Acores: Sable, a spider extended argent within a bordure compony argent and gules. There is 1 CD for the field difference and 1 CD for partial change of the secondary’s tinctures.




 


This letter contains 1 new name, 1 new name change, 6 new devices, 1 new augmentation of arms, 2 new badges, 1 name resubmission, 1 name appeal, 2 device resubmissions, and 6 heraldic title transfers. This is a total of 21 items, a manageable number. A check to cover fees will be sent separately.

 

 I remain,



Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street; Tucson AZ 85716

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Commonly-Cited References:

Bahlow, Hans. Deutsches Namenlexicon. 1967.

Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland.

MacLysaght, E. The Surnames of Ireland. Dublin, Irish Academic Press, 1991.

Ó Corráin, Donnchadh and Fidelma Maguire. Irish Names.

Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson. A Dictionary of English Surnames, 2nd Edition, 1976, reprinted 1979.

Withycombe, E.G., The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, 3rd Edition. London, Oxford University Press, 1977.


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