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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 1 July 2017, A.S. LII

LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt




Unto Their Royal Majesties Áilgheanán and Amber; Baroness Genevieve de Lironcourt, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings of the New Year from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!


This is the July 2017 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. Please have commentary to me by 20 July 2017.


Heraldry Hut: The July Heraldry Hut is tentatively scheduled for Friday, 21 July, 7:30 PM.


Please consider the following for the July 2017 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:


Eirný Þrúðadóttir (Twin Moons): NEW NAME

The name is Old Norse and is documented in The Viking Answer Lady's website, http://vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml, for the given name: Eirný appears in Landnamabok for Eirný Þiðrandadóttr. Þrúdr was the daughter of the god Thor and the goddess Sif, but this also appears as a human name and in compounds (http://vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml#thorn). The rather out-of-the-ordinary matronymic formation is seen atmhttp://vikinganswerlady.com/ONNames.shtml#general_info. The client desires a female name and will not accept Major changes to the name. She will not allow the registration of a holding name.


Litli Knartr (Twin Moons): NEW NAME, NEW DEVICE and NEW BADGE

(device) Sable, a rhinoceros head erased, a bordure Or.

(badge) Sable, an unicorn's head erased Or, a bordure argent.

The name is Old Norse, and documentation comes from Nordiskt runnamnslexicon, Lena Peterson. Litli is a masculine name, p. 160, dated c. 1050-1050 AD. The Old West Norse form would be Lítli. Knartr, found as Gunnar knartr, 1329 in Norway, comes from knart, “a small, densely-grown person” (Lind, column 207). The name elements are within 500 years of each other. The client is most interested in in the meaning (his nickname in his local group is “Tiny”) and culture/language of the name. He wishes it to be authentic for Old Norse.

The device was blazoned as cabossed; this is incorrect, as the beast appears in profile to dexter, the default orientation for most creatures' heads.


Melonia Marie Popoff (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Vert, a catamount rampant gardant argent, enflamed complete proper, a bordure ermine.

Melonia is found as an feminine English given name, under Melonia Langbridge, christening date 16 Nov 1579 in Burlescombe, Devon, England (Batch C16847-1, https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AMelonia~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AEngland~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1400-1650~). However, her submitted name, aside from this slight variation in her given name, is identical to her legal name, Meloney Marie Popoff. This may run afoul of using one's legal name as one's SCA name.
I'm guessing that “enflamed complete” means that the charge is completely surrounded by flames. I'm fairly certain that this has been prohibited for years, and that the correct depiction of an enflamed charge has “tufts” or tongues of flame along its edges (not continually touching), and that the flame are usually gules, or Or, or in the case of proper, alternating Or and gules tongues in a single tuft.

The submission was made on obsolete forms, which have been banned since February (Estrella-time) 2017. They will be returned.


William of Grimsby (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per pale gules and azure, a badger's head cabossed Or marked sable.

The name is English. William is a masculine given name, under William Abbot, christening date 18 Oct 1573 in St. Thomas, Newport, Hasmpshire, England (Batch C16659-1, https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AWilliam~%20%2Bsurname%3AAbbot~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1500-1600~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland). Grimsby is found under Catherine Grimsby, christening date 12 Oct 1567, Horkstow, Lincoln, England (Batch, C02927-3, https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ACatherine~%20%2Bsurname%3AGrimsby~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1500-1600~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland). Grimsby, England, is a town and seasport in Lincolnshire, eastern England. It is situated on the south side of the River Humber estuary, 6 miles from the North Sea (https://www.britannica.com/place/Grimsby).

The following submissions appear in the June 2017 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:


Atenveldt, Kingdom of: NEW TRANSFER OF BADGE

Gyronny azure and gules, a dexter hand couped apaumy Or.

Áilgheanán and Amber (Andrew and Amber Coleman), as Crown of Atenveldt, transfer this badge, once registered to Mary Margaret of Derby in October 1976 and transferred by her to the Kingdom of Atenveldt in July 1981, to the Barony of Sundragon in the Kingdom of Atenveldt. Necessary signed paperwork is forwarded to Laurel.

Fenrich Stürmer Hahn (Tir Ysgithr): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, March 2017
Or, a dunghill cock rising contourny vert maintaining a spear bendwise sinister gules hafted sable, a bordure raguly sable.

The name was registered March 2017.

The previous submission, Or, a dunghill cock rising contourny vert maintaining a spear bendwise sinister argent hafted sable, a bordure raguly sable., was returned for contrast issues. a'According to the precedent set in August 2015 which allows maintained charges to count towards difference, they need to be identifiable and are no longer exempt from the usual requirements for good contrast. As the identifying portion of the spear is argent on an Or field, there is not sufficient contrast for the identifiability to be maintained.” Making the blade gules solves the problem.


Mary Margaret of Derby: NEW TRANSFER OF DEVICE

Azure, a domestic cat passant to sinister Or.

Dawn Johnson, daughter and estate executor of Mary Margaret of Derby (Mary Johnson) transfers to the Barony of Sundragon in the Kingdom of Atenveldt Mary Margaret's device. Necessary signed paperwork is forwarded to Laurel.


Odette Steingrim (Sundragon): NAME RESUBMISSION from Laurel, November 2014

The original submission, as seen above, was returned for the following reasons: “This name was pended on the June 2014 Letter of Acceptances and Returns in order to allow the submitter to provide the correct attestation of legal relationship with Eirik Ising Steingrim. Written proof of the relationship was not provided, so we are unable to grandfather the byname Steingrim to the submitter. This name combines a French given name and Norwegian byname. This is not an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA. Therefore, we are unable to register this name and must return it.”

Eirik has supplied a Letter of Permission for Odette to use part of his SCA registered name Steingrim; he is her legal step-father. Odette is demonstrated as a French given name found in a tax archive of 14-17th century French record, "Late Period French Feminine Names," Aryenhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/latefrench.html).


Otto Blauschild: NEW TRANSFER OF DEVICE

Azure, a fret argent, a bordure ermine.

The client's widow and estate executor Angelica Blauschild (Nancy Denkeler), transfers to the Barony of Sundragon in the Kingdom of Atenveldt Otto's device. Necessary signed paperwork is forwarded to Laurel.


Sundragon, Barony of: ACCEPTANCE OF TRANSFERS OF ARMORIES
Gefroi and Jacqueline, the Baron and Baroness of Sundragon, accept the following armories:
Argent, on a bend between two reef knots fesswise azure, three reef knots argent, a bordure azure. (device)

Azure, a domestic cat passant to sinister Or. (device)
Azure, a fret argent, a bordure ermine. (device)
Gyronny azure and gules, a dexter hand couped apaumy Or.
(badge)

Necessary signed paperwork is forwarded to Laurel.


Yehudah of Nuremberg: NEW TRANSFER OF DEVICE

Argent, on a bend between two reef knots fesswise azure, three reef knots argent, a bordure azure.

The client's widow and estate executor Agnes of Blackfeld (Wanda Baum) transfers to the Barony of Sundragon in the Kingdom of Atenveldt Yehudah's registered device. Necessary signed paperwork is forwarded to Laurel.


The following submissions were register by the SCA College of Arms, April 2017:
(these were submissions on the January 2017 Letter of Intent)


Ælfgyfu Æthelwulfesdohtor. Name change from holding name Michelle of Twin Moons.
Submitted as Ælfgyfe Æthelwulfesdohtor, the submitted spelling did not use the nominative (base) form of the given name. In certain languages (including Old English), the spelling of a name may change depending on how the name is used in a sentence. In such languages, only the nominative form can be used for a registerable given name. In this case, the nominative form of the given name is Ælfgyfu. With the submitter's permission, we have made this change for registration.
Ambrose the Gutless. Device. Sable, a hand argent between in chief two bees, a bordure Or.
Please advise the submitter to draw the bees slightly smaller so that there is no doubt that they are in a secondary charge group.
Devorix Catumari. Name and device. Gules, in pale a lion's head cabossed and on a winged lozenge Or a saltire sable, an orle Or.
Submitted as Devorix Tiberius Catumaros, the name as submitted did not follow any of the documented patterns for Gaulish names. With the submitter's permission, we have changed the name to Devorix _ Catumari to use the pattern for patronymic bynames found in "Name Constructions in Gaulish" (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/gaulish/) by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn.
Francois Barbe d'Or. Name and device. Per bend sinister gules and argent, a Paschal lamb regardant proper and a cross formy gules.
Submitted as François Barbe-d'Or, we have removed the hyphen from the byname to match the documentation. In addition, the c-cedilla in the given name does not appear on the name form; it seems to have been added at Kingdom without explanation. As the name is registerable both with and without the cedilla, we have restored the given name to its originally submitted form.
Kaylea of Twin Moons. Name and device. Argent, a chevron enarched within and conjoined at the point to a chevron between two butterflies purpure and a tulip gules slipped and leaved vert.
Submitted as Kaylea of Atenveldt, this name conflicted with the registered Kali of Atenveldt. Although different in appearance, both names reasonably can be (and in some dialects are) pronounced as "kay-lee." Therefore, the two names conflict in sound. With the submitter's permission, we have changed the name to Kaylea of Twin Moons for registration. Twin Moons is the registered name of an SCA branch.
Sewenna de Carlton. Name.
The Letter of Intent did not document the spelling de Carlton. Fortunately, Lillia Pelican Emerita found this spelling dated to 1190-1260 in Watts.
Nice early 13th century English name!
Sólveig Æsudóttir. Name.
Submitted as Sólveig Æsadóttir, the submitted spelling of the byname uses an incorrect genitive (possessive) form of the parent's name. Lind s.n. Ása indicates that the genitive form ends in -u. Therefore, we have changed the byname to Æsudóttir to use the correct grammar.
The submitter requested authenticity for "Old Norse, 600-800 AD." We cannot meet this request because the earliest evidence we have for the name Sólveig is from c. 1000 C.E.
Una {O,}lfúss. Name and device. Or, a domestic cat statant erect gules maintaining a sword sable, a chief embattled gules.

The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work, April 2017:


Viktoria of York. Device. Per saltire argent and purpure, in pale two crosses and in fess two dragonflies counterchanged.

This device is returned for running afoul of SENA A3D2b. which states "Mixing Ordinaries and Other Charges: While charge groups may have different types of charges, charge groups consist of either identical ordinaries or complex charges. Thus, a single charge group may not mix ordinaries with non-ordinaries or mix two types of ordinaries."
Here we have a primary charge group with the crosses throughout (which are considered ordinaries) and the dragonflies.
On resubmission, please advise the submitter to properly draw the dragonflies with the wings parallel to one another rather than at an angle.



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