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Unto Their Royal Majesties Arthur and Gabriela; Master Seamus, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

This is the July 2011 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation (published a few days before June, as there are many submissions to be considered upon it). It precedes the external Letter of Intent that will contain the following submissions that are presented here, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. Where there any submissions this month, know that I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry and consultation. You can send commentary to me privately at or join “Atenveldt Submissions Commentary” at Yahoo! Groups

( ) and post there. (Commentary is likely be included in the next month's Letter of Presentation so that all may learn from it, and we can see how additional documentation or comments may have influenced a submission. Please don't be shy!)

Please have commentary to me for those submissions under consideration for the July 2011 Atenveldt Letter of Intent by 10 July 2011. Thanks!

In-Kingdom Returns: There were a number of in-kingdom returns this month (just sayin'). Please read these carefully; some of those returns might be in your area and you might be able to counsel these clients as to a resubmission.

Consultation Tables: the consultation table run at Kingdom Collegium was low-key, BUT there were still a couple of hard-copy submissions made, and more important, the chance to talk with the new herald from the Shire of Burning Sands (and several residents of the Shire) and to consult with several folks on potential submissions. (I have to make a point of writing down folks' email addresses when this happens so I can poke them keep in touch with them and encourage a considered submission to become a real one!). Many thanks to Symond Bayard le Gris for helping man the table (and pulling out lunch and beverages throughout the day), and to Kirsten Maria Matz, Event Steward, for providing space for the Table.

I've been asked by Lady Nest, Thunderbolt Pursuivant, to run a Consultation Table at Mons Tonitrus' Arts and Sciences Competition on Saturday, 30 July, as she will be unable to attend the event. Heraldry Hut will continue throughout the summer at my home (Tir Ysgithr), and it's likely that heraldry evenings might pop up at Helena de Argentoune's home, or take on a mobile aspect.

Heraldry Hut: The next Heraldry Hut will be held Friday, 15 July ;For more information, directions, etc., please contact me at your convenience ( ).

Speaking of submissions: I accept direct-to-Kingdom submissions from heraldic clients; this might not be the most favorable route to take, particularly if a group has a territorial herald, and everyone can stay more in the “submission loop” if a submission is made in this fashion. However, in some cases, this is the only reasonable and timely way for a submission to be made. Local heralds need to send submissions on in a timely manner as well (i.e., within one month of receiving a submissions packet). If you cannot connect with me at an event (very likely) or attend Heraldry Hut, submissions need to be mailed within one month (yes, that's important!) of a local herald receiving them, unless there is a reason for return at the local level. My address: Linda Miku, 2527 E. 3rd Street, Tucson AZ 85716.

Because of some transitional issues in some Atenveldt groups, the July Southwind will feature an article on mailed, Direct-to-Kingdom submissions. Although I get a few of these (not many, compared to other means of submission), there may be an increase in them. To those local, office-holding heralds, you will receive your “local herald”/archival copy for your office files. I encourage all heralds, particularly those holding local offices to comment on Letters of Presentation. Having submissions “bypass” your office shouldn't be a reason to exercise and further develop your mad onomastic and armorial skilz!

Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too:

Laurel Actions: The results of the Laurel April 2011 LoAR for Atenveldt submissions (which appeared in the January 2011 Letter of Intent) are posted at the end of this report.

Please consider the following submissions for the July 2011 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Günter Haller (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE

Sable, a cross formy thoughout gules fimbriated, five wolves passant in saltire and a bordure Or.

The name was registered December 2010.

Otto Christoph Von Frankenau (Granite Mountain): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Lozengy gules and argent, a goat clymant sable.

The name is German. Otto is a masculine given name dated 1272 through 1397, and Christoph is dated 1351 and 1480, both found in “Medieval German Given Names from Silesia: Men's Names,” Talan Gwynek ( ). If someone could justify the practice of an unmarked patronymic as a German one (for Christoph), that would be great. Frankenau was built as a border fortification against the Saxons, and the founding is assumed to have taken place between 500 and 750, with town rights being granted by Heinrich Raspe, Landgrave of Thuringia, in 1242 ( ; this information appears in the book, Frankenau: Altenlotheim, Louisedorf, Dainrode, Ellershausen, Allendorf, Bucher Gruppe (editor) ISBN-10: 1158986181 It was used as a surname, Haudi von 'Frankenau (c. 870-903), found in . The client desires a male name, is more interested in the language/culture of medieval Germany and wishes to make it authentic for 13th-14th C. German. He will not accept Major changes to the name.

Sarah Axford (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME

The name is English. Sarah is dated to 1201 (through c. 1405) as a feminine given name in “Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames: Introduction,” Talan Gwynek ( ). Axford is a town first mention in 1163; in the later Middle Ages iand the 16th C, it was apparently a village of medium-sized farmsteads and average wealth, c. 1523 (British History Online, ). The client desires a female name and will not accept Major or Minor Changes to the name.

The following submissions appear in the June 2011 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Commentary is provided by Jeanne Marie Lecroix [JML], Michael Gerard Curtememoire [MGC] and Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy [MMM].

Aurelia Nomadikη (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW BADGE: Gules, a Greek helmet Or crested gules within an annulet Or.

I recommend using Aurelia Nomadik{e-} on the LoI (unless of course OSCAR auto-converts it). Not all browsers are going to correctly display the eta. As noted on the LoP , this is not registrable as submitted due to the lack of contrast. I'm not sure the crest would be half the charge; to be on the safe side consider the tincture to match the helm. Both charges should be larger and the crest shouldn't touch the annulet. Assuming the tincture of the crest changes (regardless of whether it is half the charge or not) no conflict found. Assuming that the field is changed to any other color (not a metal) but no other changes are made, no conflicts found. [JML]

Additional consultation with the client: she is changing the tincture of the helmet to all Or, resolving the contrast violation. Yay! [MMM]

Gepa of Sundragon (Sundragon): NEW BADGE: (Fieldless) A bull's head cabossed per pale azure and argent.

The name was registered September 2006.

The badge uses elements and tinctures of her registered device, Azure, a bull statant contourny regardant within an orle argent.

This is clear of the badge for Province of Silver Desert: (Fieldless) A ram's head cabossed per pale argent and azure., with 1 CD for fieldlessness, 1 CD for type of charge, 1 CD for reversing the tinctures.

Jakob inn rammi (Sundragon): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, January 2011: Per bend gules and sable, a sword argent, winged Or.

This should be clear of Erik of Rockwell (badge, 02/2007, Atenveldt), (Fieldless) A sword inverted proper, bat-winged Or. There's a CD for adding the field and there should be a CD for the orientation of the sword. If the sword wasn't winged, there'd clearly be a CD for orientation, but the addition of the wings somewhat obscures the fact that Erik's sword is inverted. Consider trying for PtC just in case. [JML]

Lillian Fionn (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Quarterly purpure and sable, a lily argent, slipped and leaved vert, a bordure argent.

I think you have enough docs on the given name to send it forward. Examples of Lillian can easily be found in the IGI extracted periods. If Edelweiss doesn't beat me to it, I'll add some to the LoI once it is posted. The byname should by Fhionn - see the 10/2009 LoAR (Caitilín Fhionn, A-An Tir). There's a discussion there that you may want to include on the LoI - it has italics so I'm not including it here. [JML]

What the LoAR says about Fhionn: “The submitter requested authenticity for 14th-15th C Gaelic. While we have not found any examples of women using the byname Fhionn 'white', the masculine counterpart Fionn was very common during this period, and we have examples of women using other descriptive bynames referring to hair color or complexion, e.g., Bhallach 'freckled' and Dhubh 'black', both of which were used in the 15th C according to Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, "Index of Names in Irish Annals". So while we cannot confirm that the name is authentic, it does seem quite likely that it is. We note, though, that using just a descriptive byname is unusual, and we recommend that the submitter consider adding a patronymic or clan affiliation byname.” (Caitilín Fhionn, 10/2009) [MMM]

Lora of the Four Paws (Ered Sul): NEW DEVICE: Argent, a dog statant contourny gules and in chief four paw prints in fess sable.

The docked tail isn't a problem, but it does need to be blazoned: “The dog's tail is not shown. While tail docking seems to be a modern custom, the fact that the missing tail can be blazoned makes it registrable: Parker's Glossary of Heraldic Terms, p.377, gives defamed as the term for a tailless beast (e.g., a lion). There is sufficient evidence of mastiff-type dogs in the Rottweil region of Germany during our period that this depiction of a dog is registrable; however, the term Rottweiler for the breed of dog appears to be a significantly post-period development. Therefore the dog has been registered as a mastiff defamed.” [Caitriona inghean Sheamuis, 06/2008, A-East] If you quote the precedent pull it from the LoAR - there's italics and bold font. There's a SFPP for the use of paw prints. [JML]

Mathias MacCumhail (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per bend sinister gules and sable, three hearts in bend sinister between two tygers rampant in bend argent.

Mathias is dated to 1584 in “Masculine Given Names in Chesham, 1538-1600/1,” Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada ( ). [MMM]

Actually we have registered the patronymic several times: Maeve Nessa MacCumhal (10/1991), Caitlin mac Cumhaill na Cruachan (11/1985), Eoin MacCumhail (9/1991), Markus mac Cumhaill (11/1998). But nothing really recent. Not much to document the byname unless you go the literary route. If he goes the Anglicized Irish route he can document Mathias as an English name and there is no SFPP for the combination. Mathias is found in "Masculine Given Names in Chesham, 1538-1600/1" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada ( where it is dated to 1584. The names are from parish records so this may be a Latinized form. [JML] Aryanhwy's Lingual Weirdness Table show Anglicized Irish and English to be an SFPP (but still registerable). This list has a last update of 6 2009, so there might be a more-current one out there. [MMM]

Sean South (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME CHANGE, from Sean of the South, and TWO JOINTLY-HELD NEW BADGES with Elaria filia Robert.

(Badge 1) Quarterly vert and Or, a pale counterchanged.

(Badge 2) Per saltire vert and Or, in pale two ermine spots Or.

Badge 1: Well it's clear of my device <grin>. I expect that this is a variant of checky, especially drawn with a wider pale. As such, consider the important non-SCA arms for Warenne, Earl of Surrey, Checky Or and azure. Potentially only one CD for changing half the tincture. [JML]

Badge 2: Yes, you can drop the in pale. [JML]

Seraphina Jameson (Windale): NEW DEVICE: Vert, an open book Or charged with a domestic cat dormant gardant sable, an orle Or.

The cat appears to be a lion not a domestic cat, and the only reason I would even guess a lion is the tail. The book looks like it's ready to close - that may be grounds for return. [JML]

I've long told people that heraldic beasts are always "on duty", and even if they're sleeping, it's in a dutiful pose. I think you'd be better off blazoning and drawing couchant gardant. I suspect that dormant gardant is going to be rejected as a "blurring the lines between" and/or non-period position--but if the client insists, you could certainly roll the dice and see if you get three aces for divine intervention! [MGC]

Starri Rauđa Bj{o,} rnsson (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Argent, two chevonels azure between a mullet of four points sable and a bear's head couped closed contourny azure.

The name is Old Norse, with all elements found in “The Old Norse Name,” Geirr Bassi Haraldsson. Starri is a masculine given name, p. 8. Rauđa- is found on p. 26, “iron ore”; it seems to be a protheme, and I don't know if it can stand alone as a descriptive term. Geirr Bassi's discussion on nicknames, pp. 18-19, notes that some nicknames precede the given name (are prefixes). They can be used by both men and women, sometimes as a single word, but more often with hyphen, as Rauđa-Starri. [Note that the weird letter -đ- is the eth, which takes the sound of the th- found in “these” or “those.”] Bj{o,} rn is a masculine given name, p. 8. It appease that from the formation of patronymics (pp. 17-18), the genitive form of -bj{o,} rn is -bjarnar, so the correct form of “son of Bjorn” is Bjarnarson. (Old Norse is so weird.) The client desires a male name, and is most interested in the meaning and language/culture of the name. The has been consulted about the various aspects of his name, and he's amenable (and just plain tickled) to changes that make it more authentic. [MMM]

You have the wrong character for eth; you have d-stroke not eth (which has a curved top). [So this is Rauða. I mistyped it. MMM] I think there's a relative recent CL on the issue, but I couldn't find it quickly. Yes, I think this needs to be Rau{dh}a-Starri based on Geirr Bassi. If that's crayon (as it appears to be), it will be administratively returned. The use of a mullet of four points is no longer considered a SFPP. [JML]

The bear's head ought to be sable, not azure. This is still clear of conflict. [MMM]

Starri Rauđa Bj{o,} rnsson (Sundragon): NEW JOINTLY-HELD BADGE with Valdís Eiriksdðóttir: Per pale argent and sable, a bear rampant counterchanged and in dexter chief a mullet of four points sable.

I'm not sure that demi-roundel can be blazoned. The bear is half on the roundel, half on the field. If may be a cut&paste form an old badge form. Ask if you can color that whole side sable. If so, no conflict found. The use of a mullet of four points is no longer considered a SFPP. [JML]

The client was consulted, and the correct emblazon ought to match Per pale argent and sable, a bear rampant counterchanged and in dexter chief a mullet of four points sable. This is still clear of conflict. [MMM]

Tiberius Octavius Bellicianus (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per chevron inverted Or and gules, in chief a manta ray sable.

The use of a manta ray is a SFPP (Sorcha Broussard, 12/2008). [JML]

The commentary on manta rays in that LoAR goes on: “More information was discovered during research for this submission: manta rays are surface fish known to exist in the Mediterranean, so they are not New World fauna, whose use is an automatic step from period practice. Unfortunately, there are still no period citations for the existence of manta rays, meaning that we would still be required to give the submitter benefit of the doubt in order to register this device...” [MMM]

There is a conflict with a badge for the Barony of Tir-y-Don, (Fieldless) A manta ray tergiant sable maintaining in its tail a sheaf of arrows fesswise Or. There is one 1 CD fielded vs. fieldless changes, nothing for the removal of a maintained charge, and nothing for orientation of the charge on the field when compared to the charge on a fieldless badge. The client was consulted, and he will accept Per chevron inverted Or and gules, in chief a manta ray bendwise sable. The change of orientation from the default palewise to bendwise provides the second CD. [MMM]

Valdís Eiriksdóttir (Sundragon): NEW NAME

William mac Coluim (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, in cross three compass stars and a phoenix, a bordure rayonny argent.

I think the number of rayons may be cause for return. [JML] I'm hoping that a note from Wreath saying as much would work (funny how folks with rayonny lines of division are pretty easy-going about making fewer rayons when told that they can. :) [MMM]

The following submissions were returned by the Atenveldt College of Arms for further work, June 2011:

Curlew Drogheala (Ered Sul): NEW CHANGE OF DEVICE: Argent, in pale a raven statant upon and pecking a single-horned anvil reversed sable issuant from flames gules.

Those are flames? They're not recognizable. If correctly drawn I think this would likely be slot-machine heraldry with three co-primary charges (flames, anvil, and raven). And the flames have to be large enough to count (and thus be returnable) otherwise this conflicts with Alexsander von Mausheim (device, 10/2005, An Tir), Or, in pale a raven maintaining a reed pen inverted perched atop an anvil sable. There's a CD for changes to the field. Either the flames are equivalent to maintained charges and worth nothing (meaning this conflicts) or the flames are co-primary (meaning this doesn't conflict) and this needs to be returned for slot-machine heraldry. There is no difference for the type anvil (Daniel de Blare, 12/2003, R-West), nor does there appear to be a difference for the orientation of the anvil (see for example Leonardo Giovanni, 09/2002, A-East). [JML]

The issue of the flames as a co-primary charge might be resolved if the anvil were enflamed (small tongues all over the anvil); however, I don't know if there would be a CD between a “plain” anvil and an anvil enflamed. Removing the base of flames to solve the issue of flames as a co-primary and turning the raven to sinister would clear the conflict with Alexsander; I haven't checked for new conflicts. Using a base rayonny gules, with only the raven and anvil as co-primaries would give 1 CD for field, and 1 CD for addition of a peripheral charge, which would clear the conflict with Alexsander; again, I haven't checked for new conflicts. (Flames are a devil to draw – using a base rayonny provides a clean, very delineated charge that's reminiscent of flames.) [MMM]

RETURNED for conflict; RETURNED for use of three dissimilar co-primary charges.

Honour Grenehart (Granite Mountain): NEW BADGE: Argent, on a chief embattled sable three mullets Or.

Unfortunately, this conflicts with the device of Jean Amy, registered February 2008, Or, on a chief embattled sable three mullets argent. . There is 1 CD for the difference in field tinctures, but there aren't two cumulative differences in the tertiaries on the chief to provide the second CD (types, number and orientation are identical; the only difference is in tincture). The conflict with Jean's would be clear by changing the number or even the orientation (mullets inverted). [MMM]

RETURNED for conflict.

Jacquelin of Normandy (Sundragon): NEW HOUSEHOLD NAME, Manoir Du Rose Blanc, AND NEW BADGE: (Fieldless) Two rosebuds slipped and leaved, crossed in saltire, argent.

Household name: You could always argue that those precedents should be overturned (I think they should). Badge: Assuming roses rather than rosebuds, this conflicts with Katherine of Scarborough (device, 02/2003, Caid), Quarterly vert and argent, two roses argent. There's a CD for the field but nothing for arrangement since Katherine's roses are forced to be in bend, and nothing for adding the stem and leaves. [JML]

Having the roses within and conjoined to an annulet or a mascle would remove the conflict with Katherine, by the addition of a secondary charge to provide the second CD. I haven't checked to see if this runs into new conflicts. [MMM]

RETURNED for name prohibition; conflict with armory.

Philipp von Eisenberg (Mons Tonitrus): NEW BADGE: Argent, in pale cauldron sable maintaining flames gules and three chevronels braced, a bordure sable.

Looking at the blazon for the Barony of Mons Tonitrus (to which this badge will be transferred in the future), I'd tend to follow the blazon for the Barony, Argent, in chief a laurel wreath vert between a pile in bend and another in bend sinister and in base three chevronels braced, all sable. The blazons result the in the identical emblazon. [MMM]

I would call the cauldron and chevrons co-primary charges which is currently grounds for return (most recently see Layla al-Zarqa', who's device was returned on the April 2011 LoAR). Not conflict checked. [JML]

The submission cited by Jeanne Marie:

Layla al-Zarqa'. Device. Azure, a chevron and in chief a cat and a weasel passant respectant argent.

This device is returned for violating the following precedent: In this submission the chevron inverted and the tree can only be interpreted as co-primary charges, as they are of approximately equal visual weight and neither occupies the center of the shield. This combination of ordinary with non-ordinary charge in a single charge group produces an unbalanced design. Without period evidence for such a design, it is not registerable. [Issobell nic Gilbert, April 2005, R-Caid]

This precedent was upheld as recently as November 2010. The current submission has the same problem: none of the charges occupies the center of the field, and they are all of equivalent visual weight.

Since the charges on the device are all co-primary charges, in the same group, this device is also returned for violating our ban on so-called "slot machine" armory. Section VIII.1.a of the Rules for Submissions says that "three or more types of charges should not be used in the same group."

While the submission is intended to be transferred to the Barony of Mons Tonitrus at a future date, at this time it is being submitted by an individual; were the Barony to submit this, there might be a chance that the College would allow the registration of this design, as there is at least one piece of baronial armory that follows the same manner of design. However, the College is not required to continue a practice that has not been shown to be a period one. The best alternative (barring conflict), it seems, is to redraw the badge so it is clear that the chevronels are the sole primaries and that the cauldron and flames are a secondary group of charges (it is permitted to have two dissimilar charges in a charge group). [MMM]

RETURNED for use of three dissimilar charges in the same group and no period evidence of using an ordinary and a non-ordinary in the same charge group.

Rhona Carmyllie (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable on an olive tree Or an owl contourny purpure, and on a chief Or three horses' heads couped sable.

I don't have Withycombe handy but if she only cite Rhona as Welsh it's not adequate documentation. No luck finding Rhona in the IGI or on No luck with Rhowena, but I did find Rowena in The historie of Great Britain under the conquests of the Romans ... by John Speed, published 1623 ( ) - I think that might make a number of people happy. Other references to the same Queen Rowena include A restitution of decayed intelligence: in antiquities... published 1634 ( ). [JML]

Carmyllie has had a church or chapel on the site since about 1500 and the present church was built in 1609 when Carmyllie became a distinct parish. ( ) [MMM]

Need a comma after the field tincture and you don't need one before the "and". What makes this an olive tree? The charge on the tree is unidentifiable. [JML]

RETURNED for clarification/possible different alternatives for name.

Valdís Eiriksdóttir: NEW DEVICE: Argent, a horse's head erased sable and in dexter chief a mullet of four points gules.

Agreed with the comments on the horse's head, though I think this might be a valid variant of couped. See the 11/2001 CL. [JML]

Conflict with Eoin MacGriogair: Argent, a chess knight sable crined gules. There is 1 CD for the addition of the mullet, but nothing for changing the tincture of the mane; as chess knights are listed under horse heads, they are considered identical charges when checking for conflict. [MMM]

RETURNED for conflict.

The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, April 2011:

Arianna Hunter. Name and device. Argent, a griffin rampant vert, on a bordure sable eight mullets of four points argent.

In June 2010, Laurel ruled: Arianna is found as a literary name in Il Petrarcha in 1574. Its use as the name of an important character who is a normal human being makes it eligible for the literary name allowance. Therefore, Arianna is registerable as an Italian given name.

Edelweiss was able to find Ariana (with a single n) as an English feminine given name in 1598. However, as the submitter did not request authenticity, we are not changing the name to be fully English.

This name mixes an Italian given name with an English byname, which is a step from period practice.

There is not a step from period practice for the use of a mullet of four points. Please see the Cover Letter for more discussion on this issue.

Catalana di Michele Romana. Name and device. Azure, a phoenix and in base four roses in cross argent.

Submitted as Catalana di Michel della Romana, the bynames as submitted have several issues. The byname di Michel mixes Italian and French in a single name phrase, which we do not allow. The fully Italian form is di Michele, which the submitter indicated she preferred to a fully French form. We have made that change in order to register it. The byname della Romana is not properly constructed, as Romana is an adjective meaning 'Roman,' and would have been used with no preposition or article. The submitter indicated that she preferred the sound Romana and wanted to retain it as the final byname. Romana can be understood as a adjectival byname meaning 'the Roman woman.' It is not found as a byname in the sources we could locate. However, the word appears commonly in 16th century Florence, for example as the Porta Romana, the gate facing toward Rome (from the Medici Archive). Aryanhwy merch Catmael was able to find the masculine form, Romano, as a byname in Florentine merchants in the age of the Medici; letters and documents from the Selfridge collection of Medici manuscripts, edited by Gertrude Randolph Bramlette Richards. We have changed the name to the plausibly constructed feminine form, Romana, in order to register the name.

Eileen of the March. Reblazon of device. Vert, a bend sinister wavy between a hare rampant to sinister and three tufts of cattails argent.

Blazoned when registered, in November 1986, as Vert, a bend wavy between a hare rampant to sinister and three tufts of cattails, all argent, the armory actually has a bend sinister.

Seki Tora. Name.

The submitter requested authenticity for Japanese; both elements are found in 16th century Japan.

Þórdís sjóna. Name and device. Argent, in pale a mullet of nine points and a Thor's hammer azure.

The byname sjóna "seeress" was used to describe normal people, and is not an unregisterable claim to superhuman powers; it was registered as recently as 2008. That precedent says: The byname means "seeress". Per past precedent, this is not presumptuous: "Fáid means seer or prophet. Some doubts were raised in commentary about the appropriateness of such a byname. However, The Dictionary of the Irish Language glosses it in the same fashion as Druid. Since we would register [Name] the Druid, [Name] the seer or prophet is also acceptable." (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR December 1997, p. 1) [Acceptances, Muirgheal inghean Shitheach, August 2008]

Zach Many Arrows. Name and device. Argent, in fess six arrows inverted proper fletched sable.

Submitted as Zach of Many Arrows, the name was justified as an inn-sign name. However, no evidence was found that inn-sign names used words like Many. Instead, we can justify this as two late period family names, as both Many and Arrows are found in the sixteenth century. A Middle English byname Manyarrow is also justifiable, but the former is closer to the submission. We have made that change in order to register the name.

The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work, April 2011:


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