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Unto Their Royal Majesties Tristan and Damiana; Master Seamus, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

This is the July 2010 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. It precedes the external Letter of Intent that will contain the following submissions that are presented here, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. Where there any submissions this month, know that I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry and consultation. You can send commentary to me privately at or join “Atenveldt Submissions Commentary” at Yahoo! Groups ( ) and post there. (Any commentary is likely be included in the next month's Letter of Presentation so that all may learn from it, and we can see how additional documentation or comments may have influenced a submission. Please don't be shy!)

Heraldry Hut: The next Heraldry Hut will be held Friday, 16 July, beginning at 7:30 PM.

Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too:

SCA College of Arms Actions: Atenveldt results from the March 2010 Laurel meetings (the November 2009 Atenveldt LoI) are found at the end of this report.

The following submissions appear in the June 2010 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Commentary is provided by Helena de Argentoune [HdA], Nest verch Rodri ap Madyn [NRM], Seamus mac Riain [SmR] and Marta [MMM].

Asdis Ivarsdottir (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per chevron purpure and argent, two roses and a horse salient inverted counterchanged.

Found the precedents against registering inverted animals—here they are (collection courtesy of ):
"By precedent we do not register inverted animals unless they are part of an arrangement in annulo."
October 2000 LoAR

"We do not allow inverted animate charges in SCA heraldry except when in recognized orientation, such as in annulo."
February 1999 LoAR

"The SCA has general precedents against registering inverted animate charges unless they are part of a radially symmetrical group such as in annulo. These precedents are on the grounds that such inverted animals are generally not readily identifiable, and they are not found in period heraldry. However, the SCA also has a registration tradition of allowing animals which are usually found in a tergiant posture to be registered in the tergiant inverted posture. "

"There is very little period evidence for tergiant inverted animals in heraldry."

"As a result, inverting a tergiant charge is acceptable as long as it does not otherwise violate any basic heraldic principles, including the requirement for identifiability. Because of the lack of period evidence for tergiant inverted charges, the posture will be considered a clear step from period practice (also known informally as a "weirdness") for any charge that cannot be found in this posture in period."
May 2002 LoAR

So. The above would seem to say that registering a "turtle tergiant inverted" is okay (but is considered and SFPP), for example, but registering a "horse rampant inverted" is not (unless it's part of a <group of X charges> in annulo or a <group of X charges> in pall, and then it's okay). [HdA]

Upon further consultation with the client, it was determined that she really wants a beast “upside down,” if at all possible, and that she is much more interested in using a donkey rather than a horse. The result is a redesign: Argent, three donkeys salient in pall, heads to center, and on a chief purpure two roses argent. [MMM]

Asha Vati (Brymstone): NEW NAME and DEVICE : Argent, in pale a natural panther sejant regardant purpure and three keys in fess, wards to base azure.

Asha is a feminine Hindi name, Sanskrit for “wish, desire, hope,” according to the website Behind the Name ( ). According to Lisa Darcy, Rajput Women's Names, Asha is a 16th C woman's name. [accessed through the SCA_India Yahoo! Group]. Similar online “baby name) sources cite Vati as a nickname for Parvati/Durga, a Hindu goddess who is the wife of Shiva and the mother of Ganesha. One citation shows Vati as meaning “nature” (Indian Hindu Names, ). The use of goddess names is not uncommon in East Indian culture (“Female Chola Names,” from A Concordance of the Names in the Cola Inscriptions (3 vols.), Karashima, Noboru, et al., Madurai: Sarvodaya Ilakkiya Pannai, 1978 ( ); “An Analysis of South Indian Female Names found in Donors, Devotees and Daughters of God” ( )). [MMM]

Atenveldt, Kingdom of: NEW ORDER NAME, Order of the Spear

The definition of a spear as a thrusting weapon with a long, stout handle and a sharp-pointed head, often made of metal, dates to c. 725. Around 1524, the spelling speare/speares is seen (COED). Spear itself might be a little post-period, but it is seen in this spelling in the names of two other SCA Orders, the Shattered Spear and the Gryphons Spear.

It is clear of previously-registered Order names, the Shattered Spear and the Gryphons Spear, and the Barony of Red Spears.

This award is intended to honor to those fighting units or households who have demonstrated excellence in the art of war, both in teaching and in the use of traditional SCA style weaponry on the fields of combat.

The badge for this Order was registered July 2005, Per pale argent and azure, in pale a sun in his splendor and two spears in saltire Or.

Bébinn ingen Domnaill (Brymstone): NEW BADGE: Per pale azure and argent, a heart per pale argent and vert.

Cecilia Svensdóttir (Brymstone): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Or, a sinister bat wing azure issuant from a dexter tierce wavy vert scaly argent.

Clarice Alienora Aldinoch (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME

The name is English. Clarice is a feminine given name dated 1191 (as Claris) 1273 and 1296 in “Feminine Given Names in
A Dictionary of English Surnames,” Talan Gwynek ( ). Alienora is a feminine given name dated 1199, 1213 and 1297 in the same source. Aldinoch is a descriptive byname meaning “old enough,” dated to 1203 in Reaney and Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames, 3rd edition, s.n. Oldhead. The client herself notes: “The used of two given name was not particularly common to the period of 1191-1297, but I have found no documentation stating that it was a forbidden practice.” (The documentation was presented in term paper format, footnotes and all, and all very well-reasoned and presented!)

The client desired a female name and is most interested in the language/culture of the name (English). She would like the name authentic for 12th-14th C. England (language/culture and time period).

Cormacc Flannacáin (Mons Tonitrus): NEW NAME

Heinrich Löschele (Mons Tonitrus): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per pale sable and gules, a cog-wheel and in base a ball-peen hammer fesswise reversed argent.

Further consultation with the client reveals that he'd be much happier with the byname Loescher or Löscher. (Thanks to Nest for getting a message to the client.) Abraham Loescher (1520-1575) from Zwickau, Saxony, finished his published literary work 'Monomachia' in Basel, Switzerland around 1550-51. He was a professor of Rhetoric in 1554, an Assessor at the realm Court of Appeal in Speyer, Rheinland Pfalz in 1559, and solicitor of the city of Neurenberg, Bavaria in 1565 (Earliest Historical Records of the Lescher Name, ). A later dating of Heinrich, closer to the date of the byname, is found in “German Names from Nürnberg, 1497,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael ( ). The name will appear in the Letter of Intent as Heinrich Loescher. [MMM]

Hrefna Gandalfsdottir (Brymstone): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, March 2010: Argent, a raven sable and a base wavy azure.

Ianuk Raventhorne (Tir Ysgithr): ALTERNATE NAME RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, January 2007, Ian'ka Ivanovna zhena Petrovitsa

Isabelle de Calais (Sankt Vladimir): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Lozengy Or and azure, a lily purpure.

The device might conflict with Keinwen Ragnarsdottir: (Fieldless) A columbine purpure slipped and leaved vert. Columbines are usually depicted with a “drooping” bloom, however, and we ask for a visual comparison of the two armories.

Isolde Monroe (Brymstone): NEW NAME

Jacob Varensgezel Van Hoorn (Mons Tonitrus): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per bend wavy vert and argent, a swordfish haurient embowed to sinister and a frog bendwise counterchanged.

James Dawysoun (Brymstone): NEW NAME CHANGE, from Eilionora inghean Daibhídh mhic Con Mhara

Juan Diego Drago (Twin Moons): NEW DEVICE: Per pale sable and gules, a camel statant and in chief three crosses formy Or.

Leticia Troischesnes (Sundragon): NEW BADGE: Checky gules and argent, a hen couchant contourny Or.

Consider Anne of Bradford: Azure, chapé, a chicken martletted close to sinister Or. There is 1 CD for the field and 1 CD for the chapé treatment. Consider Marsha of Ealdormere: (Fieldless) A peacock contourny proper. There is 1 CD for fieldlessness and 1 CD for tincture. [MMM]

Onora McDade (Twin Moons): NEW NAME

Rhodri Longshanks (Sundragon): BADGE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, July 2009: Counterermine, a double tressure surmounted by six rustres Or.

Rhodri Longshanks: NEW BADGE: Argent, on a torteau an ermine spot Or, a double tressure surmounted by six rustres azure.

Rory Sinclair (Burning Sands): NEW NAME

Rory is a masculine Scots given name form of the Gaelic Ruaidhri. This spelling is dated to 1587 in Black s.nn. Macqueen, Macmurchie (Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 2164, ). Sinclair is a Scot/Norman surname found in Black, p. 727 s.n. Sinclair. The family was in Scotland during the reign of King David I (1124-1153), and the name is found in many forms throughout period. The client desires a male name. He will not accept a holding name, but if necessary, he will accept the Gaelic Ruaidri, found in the 12th C. Book of Deer.

Sancha Galindo de Toledo (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE CHANGE: Azure, an owl between in cross four mullets Or and in saltire four roundels argent.

Thordis Andenhojttaler (Ered Sul): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Azure, in pale a mullets of nine points and a Thor's hammer argent.

The combination of Old Norse and Norwegian name elements is one step from period practice (v. Máría Abramsdottir, 12/06 ). [MMM]

Victoria of the Vales of Barnsdale (Tir Ysgithr): AUGMENTATION OF ARMS RESUBMISSION, Laurel July 2009: Or, an insect-winged naked woman passant, wings chased, azure, and as an augmentation on a canton azure in pale a coronet and a sun in his glory issuant from base Or within a bordure argent.

The name and device were registered March 1981. The client is a Viscountess of the Sun (12 April 1980) and has served as the Baroness of Tir Ysgithr (2 September 1995), allowing her to display a coronet. She received the Augmentation of Arms 9 January 1993.

The client's previous attempt to register an Augmentation of Arms, Or, an insect-winged naked woman passant, wings chased, azure, and as an augmentation on a canton azure a sun in glory and in chief a coronet Or., was returned for the augmentation being in conflict:
“The augmentation is in conflict with the device of Wendryn Townsend, Azure, a sun in glory Or There is a single CD for the addition of the coronet. The augmentation also conflicts with the device of Paul of Sunriver, Azure, a compass star Or. There is a single CD for the addition of the coronet, but nothing for the difference between a sun and a multi-pointed mullet.” The augmentation, (Fieldless) On a canton azure, a sun in his glory issuant from base or, within a bordure argent., was registered to the Kingdom of Atenveldt August 1979. It has been modified slightly to include the coronet for Her Excellency.

Wilhelm Morgenstern (Mons Tonitrus): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per chevron rayonny azure and Or, two estoiles and a demisun issuant from base counterchanged.

The following submissions have been registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms at its March 2010 meetings:

Ailis inghean Ui Nuallain. Device. Argent, a winged unicorn segreant azure and a base engrailed gules.

Alexsander Dachs. Device. Per chevron azure and vert, an open book Or between three compass roses argent.

David Ckarel. Device. Argent, a dragon's head cabossed azure, a bordure engrailed gules.

Giuliana Francesca Bellini. Device. Per saltire sable and vert, on a saltire Or a brown fox courant regardant proper maintaining in its mouth a torteau.

Isemay of Whytby. Device. Per fess engrailed argent and azure, a reed pen fesswise sable and an escallop argent.

Moire Ayres. Name and device. Quarterly Or and azure, in bend two frets couped vert.

The given name Moire was documented on the LoI as an inflected form of the Gaelic name Mór. We do not register given names in their inflected forms, so the submitted documentation only supports the name Mór. Eastern Crown provided alternative documentation for Moire, as an Anglicized Irish spelling: Moire is found in entry 6541 (p. 252) of "The Seventeenth Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records in Ireland: Appendix III: Fiants of the Reign of Queen Elizabeth" (Dublin: Alex. Thom. & Co., 1885; This entry includes Moire nyn Dermott on a list of people pardoned on 30 May 1601. The names do not appear to have been normalized or modernized.

Using this documentation, the name is registerable. This name combines Anglicized Irish and English, which is a step from period practice.

Oddr ölfúss the Tanner. Reblazon of device. Per chevron gules and Or, a pair of drinking horns Or and a leatherworker's head knife sable.

Blazoned when registered in January 2002 as Per chevron gules and Or, two drinking horns Or and a leatherworker's head knife sable, we are reblazoning this to match the new default for horns.

Tangwistel Corista. Device. Argent, a pink flamingo proper and on a chief enarched vert two hedgehogs argent.

The following submissions have been returned by the College of Arms for further work, March 2010:


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