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Unto Their Royal Majesties Morgan and Livia; Master Seamus McDaid, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald!

This is the July 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. It precedes the external Letter of Intent that will contain the following submissions that are presented here, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry and consultation. Please have commentary to me by 20 July 2007.

Kingdom Arts and Sciences: Thanks to Lady Katherine Throckmorton and Lady Helena de Agentoune who trooped down for the event for the express purpose of the Consultation Table there. We had a steady flow of folks pass through during the day, and “I want a badge.” seemed to be a popular theme. Thanks also to Lady Grainne the Red for her artistic skills (especially getting a crane to stand nicely on a sun) and to Arenvald the Wanderer (who was always available to help...we’re going to abscond with both of them at Estrella and shackle them at Heralds’ Point :)

Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too:

Please consider the following submissions for the July 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Alianora Alexandra da Lyshåret (Atenveldt): NEW BADGES

Per pale sable and argent, a chevron rompu and in base a lozenge barry counterchanged.

(Fieldless) On a narcissus blossom affronty argent a Celtic cross Or.

The name was registered July 1981.

The narcissus and cross combination is taken from the client’s badge which was registered January 1973 and reblazoned in June 2002, Per fess sable and Or, on a narcissus blossom affronty argent a Celtic cross Or.

Alyne Strangwych (Brymstone): BADGE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, March 2005

(Fieldless) An acorn vert.

The name was registered July 2003.

The original submission, identical to this, was returned for conflict with Muin maqq Mínaín, Argent, an acorn enflamed vert. There was a CD for fielded versus fieldless armory, but nothing for the addition of the flames. As precedent explains, "The enflaming of the heart, as is often the case, is drawn as small gouttes of flame, and is a blazonable detail that is not worth difference" [Aimée Long C{oe}ur, 12/03, A-Ansteorra]. The enflaming of Muin's acorn is a similar situation. The client has obtained a letter of permission to conflict from the good lord Muin.

Bébinn inghean Domnail (Brymstone): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per chevron argent and azure, two hearts vert and a needle argent, threaded sable.

The name is Irish Gaelic. Bébinn is a Middle Irish Gaelic feminine given name found in “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Feminine Names,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan ( ). Domnaill is found as the genitive form of Domnall, a Middle Irish Gaelic masulinc name (the client’s spelling seems to be a slight misspelling, with only one -l-). It is found in the same source

( ). The client desires a feminine name and is most interested in the language/culture of the name (pre-13th C. Irish).

Brandr inn hani (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Vert, a rooster within an annulet Or.

The name is Old Norse. Brandr is a masculine given name found in “Viking Names found in the Landnámabók,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael, . hani, “rooster,” is found in “Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael, . The client desires a masculine name and is most interested in the meaning of the name, “Brand the Rooster.”

Cosmo Craven the Elder (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) A yale rampant argent, semy of annulets vert, armed and unguled Or.

The name was registered March 1999.

Dionysus of Grantham (Granholme): NEW BADGE

Or, a pair of bones crossed in saltire gules surmounted by a frog sejant affronty vert.

The name was registered October 1998.

Elias Loredan (Atenveldt): NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) A horse rampant within a bordure embattled argent.

The name was registered January 2005. It uses elements of his registered device: Sable, a horse rampant and in chief a compass rose, a bordure embattled argent.

There are two problems with the submission. Although the line drawing was made on a new badge form, the colored copies are on the obsolete forms (grrr...). A bordure (and other ordinaries and subordinaries) cannot be used on a fieldless badge, nor can multiple charges be used on a fieldless badge without being conjoined in some manner. You might want to check this using a sable field, which matches the field on his registered device.

Elzbieta Rurikovskaia (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) A cross formy per pale azure and argent.

The name was regstiered September 2001. The badge incorporates elements and tinctures from her registered device, Argent, a cross formy and on a chief azure, three crosses formy argent.

Galen McKintoch (Tir Ysigthr): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Sable, a bend abased vert fimbriated Or, in sinister chief a sword bendwise maintained by a wing terminating in a hand argent.

Galen is the client’s legal given name (photocopy of Arizona driver’s license to Laurel). McKintoch is dated to 1477 in Black’s The Surnames of Scotland, s.n. MACINTOSH. The client desires a masculine and is most interested in the sound of the name.

Godfrey von Rheinfels (Sundragon): NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) On a sun Or a crane in its vigilance sable.

The name was registered May 2004.

Gudrun Oddsdottir (Mons Tonitrus): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, December 2006

Per pale azure and argent, two Bowen knots counterchanged.

The name was registered December 2006.

The previous submission, Gules, three turnips Or leaved vert., was returned for conflict. This is a complete redesign.

Jonathon von Trotha (Atenveldt) : NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) A whelk shell azure.

The name was registered June 1995.

Joseph the Good (Atenveldt): NEW BADGE

Gules, a bordure argent.

The name was registered January 1973.

Katherine Anne Geldschläger (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per pale purpure and argent, a boar rampant contourny maintaing a morning-star between three hearts, all counterchanged.

This spelling of Katherine is dated to 1366 and the 15th C. (“Medieval German Given Names from Silesia,” Talan Gwynek, , “15th-Century German Women's Names,” Talan Gwynek, ). Anne is dated to 1372 and 1383 in the Silesian names paper. Geldschläger is found in Dictionary of German Names, Hans Bahlow, translated by Edda Gentry, an occupational byname meaning “coiner, minter”; it isn’t dated, but it is definitely a period occupation. The client desires a feminine name and is most interested in the sound of the name.

Simon Kerbouchard (Atenveldt): NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) A demi-dragon contourny azure sustaining a decrescent Or.

The name was registered June 2000. The badge incorporates elements (stylishly, too!) from his registered device: Per chevron azure and Or, two decrescents and a dragon contourny counterchanged.

Stephan MCGrath (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per bend gules and sable, a cross formy and on a chief argent a fleur-de-lys between two roses gules.

The client desires a masculine name and likes the sound of the name; he would like a 15th or 16th C. English name. Although he allows no minor changes, he will accept Steven if Stephan isn’t possible, and prefers MC to Mc. Withycombe shows Stephanus in the Honor Rolls 1273, s.n. Stephen; Stephen is dated to 1446 in “ English Names from Pre-1600 Brass Inscriptions,” Julian Goodwyn, . I don’t see the slight spelling variation as a problem. Black gives MacGrath as an Irish form of Gaelic Macrath, s.n. MACGRATH, p. 505. Miler Magrath (also spelled McGrath), c. 1522-1622, served as both a Catholic bishop and an Anglican bishop during his religious lifetime ( ).

Tomas mac Aedain (Atenveldt): NEW DEVICE

Argent, a bend beviled between two crosses formy gules.

The name was registered March 2007.

Trahaern ap Kedwell (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Argent, two wolves combatant azure and maintaining between them a helmet in profile sable, on a point pointed azure a peacock’s head erased argent.

Trahaern is a Welsh masculine given name found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names,” Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn ( ). The byname is cited as a Welsh masculine given name, possibly an abbreviation of either Cadwallador or Cadwallon. Cadwallador (d. 703) was a Welsh king. It might also derive from a place name Kidwelly, a parish in the diocese of St. David’s, around the market town of Caermarthenshire. Kedwall Rogers had a son, Kedwallader, who was baptized in 1598. All information on the byname comes from a Family Name History document verified by a Historical Research Consultant on 17 March 2007.n The client’s legal given name is Kidwell. The client desires a masculine name, is most intersted in the language/culture of the name (Welsh) and wishes the name to be authentic for Kidwell.

Trahaern ap Kedwell: NEW HOUSEHOLD NAME “House Wolfsbane” and NEW JOINT BADGE with Asiya al-Mubaraka

(FIeldless) A wolf rampant contourny sable maintaining a decrescent azure.

Asiya al-Mubaraka’s name appears in the 29 June 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Intent.

The term wolfsbane dates to 1548 and refers to aconite ( ), a poisonous plant with the reputation of repelling or killing wolves. In “English Sign Names,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan ( ), vegetative sign names include [Le] Garland, Rose (several times from the late 13th C.), and (undated) Crab-tree. The clients are most interested in the sound of the name.

Vicana Nemonni Petronius (Atenveldt): NAME AND DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, August 2006

Argent, in pale a sinister hand inverted winged gules and a fleur-de-lys, a bordure dovetailed vert.

The original name submission, Vicana de la Haye, was returned for being two steps from period practice. There was a gap of nearly 800 years between the Latin given name and the English byname. The likelihood of a truly Roman name, even one found in Britain in combination with an Anglo-Norman byname was highly unlikely as well.

The name is Classical Roman; all elements are found on tombstones found in England and dating to the time of the Roman occupation, . Corinium Dobunnorum is a Britsh tribal city, which eventually became known as Cirencester in Gloucestershire.

Although Vicana doesn’t appear as a documented nomen (or as its masculine counterpart Vicanus), a civilian tombstone refers informally to a woman by this name, and to her husband Publius, who erected the memorial to her. Other tombstones at this site demonstrate a 75-year-old man, Nemonnus Verecundus, and a 40-year-old, Lucius Petronius. Pushing aside construction for the moment, the name should likely have all elements feminized, as the client is a woman and desires a feminine name: Vicana Nemonna Petronia.

Petronius appears as a nomen in . (Lucius Petronius is a classic, two element name, using one of the very standardized praenomina, Lucius, in conjunction with the documented nomen Petronius.)

I cannot find Nemonnus as a name element; I’d hazard a guess that it might be the person’s nomen, only because there were so few praenomina in use in Imperial Rome (less than two dozen). And yes, this might be the case, with a close Nemonius appearing as a nomen in “LEGIO XX – The Twentieth Legion, Roman Names,” . It does appear that Verecundus is a cognomen, as verecundus means “shy, bashful, modest.” So, this individual’s tombstone records his nomen + cognomen.

Looking to see if Vicana might mean “something,” vicanus refers to “dwelling in a village,” as as a plural, “villagers.” Perhaps the woman referred to on the tombstone was a native-born (British) woman who married a Roman, and this is more a description of her status than her name per se. This would fit as a cognomen, a descriptive of a person based upon physical attributes; these were general not applied to an individual personally, but rather either inherited it from his parents or was given it by general consensus within the community, “she who is one of the villagers.” Other cognomina include Agricola, “farmer”; Caepio, “onion-seller”; and Vespillo, “one who buries persons too poor for a funeral.” While these name elements are usually the last ones in a formal name, they are often the ones that can identify the individual quickly, rather than having to wade through the family genealogy (the writers Seneca and Cicero are most identified by their cognomina).

I’d tend to rearrange the name so that it follows the standard <praenomen + nomen + cognomen> order, or, in many cases for Roman women, <nomen + cognomen > alone. She would have to decide which nomen to use, either Petronia Vicana or Nemonna Vicana.

The client desires a feminine name and an authentic Roman name. Have at it!

The original device submission, Argent, a gauntlet inverted aversant sable winged gules grasping a fleur-de-lys fesswise purpure, a bordure flory counter-flory gules., was returned for lack of identifiability, which violates RfS VIII.3. Either inverting the gauntlet or making it aversant would hinder its identifiability; doing both makes it extremely difficult to identify the charge. Adding the wings and the fleur-de-lys pushes it over the edge and makes the collection as a whole unidentifiable.

The redesign makes the winged hand much more identifiable. It also allows the fleur-de-lys to stand as an independent charge.

Thank you for your time and consideration of these submissions!


Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

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