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25 July 2003, A.S. XXXVIII

Kingdom of Atenveldt


Unto Francois la Flamme, Laurel King of Arms; Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, Pelican Queen of Arms; Zenobia Naphtali, Wreath Queen of Arms; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,


Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald!


Please note the well-meaning, if very tardy, withdrawal from the March 2003 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:


16. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: NEW ORDER NAME, Order of the Pilgrim

The correct name for this Order appears in the 25 April 2003 Atenveldt Letter of Intent, as


4. Atenveldt, Kingdom of: NEW ORDER NAME for the Order of the Desert Pilgrim


The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms. Unless specifically stated, the submitter will accept spelling and grammar corrections; assistance in these areas is appreciated.


1. Alexander gagarr: NEW NAME

Alexander is a masculine Greek given name, notably that of the Macedonian conqueror, but also the name of an early Christian convert, the son of Simon of Cyrene. It is found as early as 1189 in England and has tendrils in French and Gaelic name pools as well (Withcombe, 3rd edition, p. 13). Gagarr is Old Norse, "hound, barker," found in "Viking Names found in the Landnámabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael ( http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/landnamabok.html ). The submitter requests a byname of Norse origin. The combination of English and Old Norse name elements is a registerable weirdness.

2. Alexander Gagarr: NEW DEVICE

Or, a chevron inverted abased throughout pupure and a talbot rampant gules, in chief a pair of dice purpure, marked Or.

There was commentary on the design, with the talbot being so visually compelling that there was a temptation to blazon it, rather than the ordinary, first. This blazon seems to resolve that issue.

3. Cassandra Attewoode: NEW NAME

Cassandra is a Greek feminine name, found in England as far back as 1182, "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames, Index of Names Attested Between 1250 and 1450: C to E," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/index_mid2.html ).

Attewoode is a locative byname, dated to 1243, "at the wood" ("A Brief Introduction to Medieval Bynames," Talan Gwynek and Arval Benicoeur, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/bynames/ ).

4. Cassandra Attewoode: NEW DEVICE

Argent, a rose azure, barbed within a wreath of thorns vert.

Versus Elsa Lorelle, Argent, a rose azure, barbed and seeded proper, within an orle of compass stars elongated to base vert., we count 1 CD for type difference between a wreath of thorns and an orle of compass stars (RfS. X.4.e. Type changes. Significantly changing the type of any group of charges placed directly on the field...is one clear difference.), and 1 CD for number of secondary charges, a single wreath vs. however many compass starts required to make up a good orle arrangement (RfS. X.4.f. Number changes. Significantly changing the number of charges in any group placed directly on the field...is one clear difference.).

5. Christophe de Lorraine: NEW NAME

The name is French. Christophe is the French form of the masculine given name Christopher (pp. 65-6, Withycombe, The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, third edition); Christopher is the submitter's legal given name.

Lorraine has been a kingdom, a duchy, and a province of central France (www.cr-lorraine.fr); the submitter's mother's registered name is Lore de Lorraine. The submitter wishes to have a 14th C. French name.

6. Christophe de Lorraine: NEW DEVICE

Per pale azure and sable, two goats clymant Or.

Clymant as a posture orientation for sheep and goats has been used as recently as September 1998 by the College of Arms.

7. Dobrushcha de Neuf-Claire: NEW NAME

Dobrushcha is a Russian masculine given name, with spelling variants found in the 12th and 14th C ("A Dictionary of Period Russian Names (and some of their Slavic roots)," Paul Wickenden of Thanet, http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/ ).

Claire is a placename dated to 1285 in Dauzat & Rostaing (p. 193 s.n. Claira, subheader C.-du-Bois). Dauzat & Rostaing (p. 493 s.n. Neuf-Berquin) dates Neuf-Berquin to the 14th C. Given this example, a place named Neuf-Claire is plausible. Additionally, this byname was registered to Daniel de Neuf-Claire in January 2002.

A name with Russian and French elements is considered a registerable weirdness.

8. Dobrushcha de Neuf-Claire: NEW DEVICE

Purpure, semy-de-lys, two swans naiant respectant Or.

9. Elias of Coventry: NEW NAME

The name is English. Elias is a Biblical name, very popular during the Middle Ages, and found in this form in England as early as 1316 (Withycombe, 3rd edition, pp. 98-99); it persists throughout period as well, seen in " Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names, Alphabetical Name List," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/eng16/eng16alpha.html ).

Coventry was an important textile and weaving town in English history ("A Collection of 613 English Borough Names for Use in Locative Bynames," Frederic Badger, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/badger/placenames.html#C ).

10. Elias of Coventry: NEW DEVICE

Per pale argent and gules, in pale three pairs of arrows fesswise fletchings to center, a chief indented, all counterchanged.

I've lifted this blazon from similar armory registered to Alexis von Bremen: Per pale wavy azure and argent, in pale three pairs of arrows fesswise heads to center counterchanged.

11. Flavia Elena Glamorganshire: NEW DEVICE

Per pale argent and vert, a panther sejant to sinister, forepaw raised, and a bear passant counterchanged, on a chief azure three cinquefoils argent.

The name appears in the 15 February 2003 Atenveldt Letter of Intent.

12. Gerardus Christopherus du Bourgogne: NEW NAME

Gerardus is a masculine given name dated to 1086 (Withycombe, 3rd edition, p. 131 s.n. Gerard).

Christopherus is dated to 1201-3 (Withycombe, 3rd edition, pp. 65-6 s.n. Christopher. While double given names in early period are rare, Christopherus could be considered an unmarked patronymic.

Bourgogne (Burgundy) is a region of central France known for its wine production.

The submitter desires a Norman French name.

13. Gerardus Christopherus du Bourgogne: NEW DEVICE

Sable, two swords inverted in saltire surmounted by a bear's head cabossed between two fleurs-de-lys in fess and another in base, all argent and in chief a label dovetailed Or.

The submitter is the legal son of Bryon l'Ours d'Argent de Bourgogne, whose name and device were registered October 1986; Viscount Bryon provides a letter of permission to conflict with his registered armory: Sable, two swords inverted in saltire surmounted by a bear's head cabossed between two fleurs-de-lys in fess and another in base, all argent.

14. Grigour MacNeilly: NEW NAME

The name is Irish. Grigour is Middle Irish, a borrowing of the masculine given name Gregory (p. 327, Black, s.n. Gregor).

MacNeilly is an Irish family name (p. 234, MacLysaght).

15. Grigour MacNeilly: NEW DEVICE

Per bend sinister vert and sable, two dragonflies Or.

16. Heinrich vom Schwarzwald: NEW NAME

The name is German. Heinrich is the German equivalent of Henry and is found in "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/bahlow/ ).

vom is a contracted form of von dem ,"of the" (Collins German-English English-German Dictionary, Berkley Book, NY, NY).

Schwarzwald, "Black Forest," a region of Bavaria ( http://www.schwarzwald.net/stories/roemer.html ).

17. Heinrich vom Schwarzwald: NEW DEVICE

Per bend sinister counterermine and ermine, a decrescent argent and a brown owl statant contorny proper.

18. Jehanne la Torta de Calais: NEW NAME

The name is French. Jehanne is dated to 1528 in "Late Period Feminine Names from the South of France," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/latefrenchfem/ ).

The same citation lists la Torta as a descriptive byname, "gimpy" or lame, dated to 1521.

Calais was a major medieval port, having been founded as a fishing village ( http://www.french-at-a-touch.com/French_Regions/Nord_Pas_de_Calais/nord-pas-de-calais_town_information.htm ).

The submitter is interested in a 15th-16th C. French name.

19. Jehanne la Torta de Calais: NEW DEVICE

Purpure, a bend sinister wavy argent between a quill of yarn and a quill pen bendwise Or.

The bend sinister could use more wave to the waviness, and the submitter has been notified of this.

20. Lughaidh Cruidire: NEW DEVICE

Quarterly vert and sable, a glove Or charged with a mullet vert, an orle Or.

The name appears in the 25 June 2003 Atenveldt LoI.

Against Lyle FitzWilliam, Vert, on the palm of a sinister hand Or, a fret couped vert., there is one CD for field and one CD for the orle.

21. Mons Tonitrus, Barony of: NEW ORDER NAME for Order of the Sable Arrows

The name of the Barony was registered in January 1991.

This is a baronial award for Archery. The name is English. While it has been determined by the College of Arms, as recently as December 2002 (in the registration of the Order of the Black Pheon (Atenveldt), originally submitted as the Order of the Sable Pheon), that documentation cannot be found in which heraldic tinctures were used in order names, and that Meradudd Cethin's article "Project Ordensnamen" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/) shows evidence of common color names, such as bleu, used in French order names rather than the heraldic tincture azure, the Barony requests that the CoA consider the registration of this name, which matches the names of Orders previously registered to Mons Tonitrus, notably the Order of the Sable Harps of Mons Tonitrus and the Order of the Sable Chevronels. The Barony requests the College consider the plural of arrow as well, following the previously -established order names. Should this tradition not be permitted, the Barony will accept the Order of the Black Arrow(s).

22. Mons Tonitrus, Barony of: NEW BADGE for Order of the Sable Arrows

Argent, a sheaf of arrows between flaunches sable, a bordure counterchanged.

The armory uses a counterchange of a similar badge registered to the Barony, Sable, a thunderbolt between flaunches argent all within a bordure counterchanged.

23. Muirgheal inghean Raghailligh mhic Seachnasaigh: NEW BADGE

(fieldless) A badger statant sable.

The name was registered May 2000.

The submitter is using an element from her registered armory, Argent, a fret gules surmounted by a badger statant sable and a chief indented gules.

24. Néill ó Néill: NEW NAME

The name is Irish Gaelic. Néill is a variant form of Niall (p. 185, Ó Corráin and Maguire), itself an Irish masculine given name (pp. 145-6, ibid.).

The clan affiliation construction follows the pattern found in "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names Formerly Published as "Quick and Easy Gaelic Bynames," 3rd Edition, Sharon L. Krossa ( http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/#clanaffiliationbyname ).

25. Néill ó Néill: NEW DEVICE

Per pale azure and sable, in pale two bulls passant argent.

26. Phineas MacGoldrick: NEW NAME

Phineas is a very late period masculine given name (16th-17th C.) used in England (p. 245, Withycombe, 3rd edition, s.n. Phine(h)as). Phineas Fletcher, 1582-1650, was an English poet and hymnist (http://www.cyberhymnal.org/bio/f/l/fletcher_p.htm ).

MacGoldrick is the anglicized form of the Irish Gaelic Mag Ualghairg (p. 204, Black; also Woulfe, s.n. Mag Ualghairg).

27. Phineas MacGoldrick: NEW DEVICE

Quarterly gules and argent, two crosses formy swallowtailed gules each charged with a fleur-de-lys Or.

The blazon of this type of cross is taken from the blazon for Ranulf Throckmorton, Sable, a cross formy swallowtailed Or on a chief embattled Or five feathers sable. Online Precedents comments on the primary charge: "Blazoned in the LoI as a Maltese cross, the primary charge does not have the arms meeting in the center at a point, one of the defining characteristics of a Maltese cross. [It was registered as a cross formy swallowtailed] (Ranulf Throckmorton, 5/95 p. 9)". The Pictorial Dictionary comments that in late period, some respresnetations of crosses formy were "straight-armed," losing the concave sweep seen in earlier depictions.

28. Phineas MacGoldrick: NEW BADGE

(fieldless) A cross patee per pale gules and Or charged with a fleur-de-lys counterchanged.

The blazon of this type of cross is taken from the blazon for Ranulf Throckmorton, Sable, a cross formy swallowtailed Or on a chief embattled Or five feathers sable. Online Precedents comments on the primary charge: "Blazoned in the LoI as a Maltese cross, the primary charge does not have the arms meeting in the center at a point, one of the defining characteristics of a Maltese cross. [It was registered as a cross formy swallowtailed] (Ranulf Throckmorton, 5/95 p. 9)". The Pictorial Dictionary comments that in late period, some respresnetations of crosses formy were "straight-armed," losing the concave sweep seen in earlier depictions.

29. Ragnarr Gunnarsson: NEW HOUSEHOLD NAME, Halir Þórs

The personal name was registered February 2003.

The household name is Old Norse, "Thor's Heroes" or "Thor's Men." Halr is shown as "man, hero," in An Introduction to Old Norse, E.V. Gordon, second edition, Oxford: Clarendon Press, and this is said to be the plural form; Þórs is said to be the genitive form of Þór.

Commentary so far has suggested that such a name might be presumptuous per RfS I.3.b? "Presumptuous Claims - A name or piece of armory which expresses or implies presumptuous claims to status or powers that the submitter does not possess will not be registered. "No name or armory will be registered that could be considered presumptuous and thereby cause offense to a significant segment of the Society. See Part VI, Presumptuous Names, and Part XI, Presumptuous Armory." That this is a fighting household with a dedication to a rather martial deity is not that farfetched from a group that is dedicated to a saint (Damian von Baden has a badge registered for the Compay of Saint Oswald, September 1998; Wilhelm Cameron von Holstein, the Company of Saint Constantine in January 1996; Aliena von Bingen, the Household of Saint Hildegard, June 1995; and the Barony of Lochmere, the Company of Saint Martha, March 2002), particularly to a group that is focusing on a pre-Christian culture (or a culture, that while it became Christianized, has a well-known history of a non-Christian pantheon preceding that time).

30. Ryan Dollas: NEW NAME

Ryan is the submitter's legal given name (photocopy of driver's license provided). Additionally, Ryan is the Anglicised form of the Irish Gaelic masculine given name Ríán/Rian (Ó Corráin and Maguire, p. 155), which was determined to be an acceptable Anglicised form in the April 1988 LoAR for the name Ryan von Gutenburg. While Aryanhwy merch Camael is concerned that Anglicized Gaelic and Welsh is likely not registerable ( Gaelic/Welsh combinations were ruled unregisterable on the 08/01 LoAR), what remains is that the submitter is using his legal given name.

Dôl-las is Welsh for "green meadow" and is found in Welsh Place-names and Their Meanings, Dewi Davies, p. 16; discussions with Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvyrn, Harpy Herald, at alt.heraldry.sca have her suggesting that the hyphen and circumflex on the -o- be removed, as they are modern developments; copies of Davies' book page and discussions with Harpy are included.

31. Ryan Dollas: NEW DEVICE

Vert, rapier bendwise sinister between two four-leafed clovers slipped Or, a bordure rayonny argent.

32. Sean of the South: DEVICE REUSUBMISSION from Laurel, April 2003

Quarterly Or and vert, two crosses bottony Or, all within a bordure counterchanged.

The name was registered April 2000.

The previous submission, Quarterly Or and vert, two crosses bottony Or. (and Quarterly vert and Or, two crosses bottony Or.) conflict with Robert Fagan of Blackstoke, Quarterly per fess indented sable and Or, two crosses crosslet fitchy Or. There is one CD for difference in the field and one CD for the addition of the bordure.

33. Sorcha inghean Dhara mhic Seachnasaigh: NEW BADGE

(fieldless) A lozenge ployé within and conjoined to the horns of an increscent a bordure argent.

The name was registered May 2000.

The submitter is using element of her registered armory, Per fess azure and vert, a lozenge ployé within and conjoined to the horns of an increscent a bordure argent.

34. Sorcha inghean Dhara mhic Seachnasaigh: NEW BADGE, registered jointly with Muirgheal inghean Raghailligh mhic Seachnasaigh

Per fess azure and vert, a fret and a bordure argent.

Both personal names were registered May 2000.

35. Svana ormstunga Vermundardottir: NEW NAME

The name is Old Norse, with documentation provided by the Academy of Saint Gabriel. Svana is a rare feminine given name (Lind, E.H., Norsk-Isländska Dopnamn ock Fingerade Namn från Medeltiden, Uppsala & Leipzig: 1905-1915, sup. Oslo, Uppsala and Kobenhavn:

1931).

The byname ormstunga means "serpent-tongue" (ibid.).

The patronymic translates to "daughter of Vermundr." The report can be found in its entirety at http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?1816+0 .

36. Svana ormstunga Vermundardottir: NEW DEVICE

Per fess indented argent and sable, three bees one and two sable and a duck Or.

I was assisted in the preparation of this Letter of Intent by Knute Hvitabjörn; Da'ud ibn Auda, al-Jamal Herald; Aryanhwy merch Catmael; and commenters at the July Heraldry Hut.

This letter contains 13 new names, 15 new devices, 5 new badge, 1 new order name, 1 new household name, and 1 device submission. This is a total of 36 items, 35 of them new. A check to cover fees will be sent separately.

I remain,

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street; Tucson AZ 85716

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Commonly-Cited References

Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland.

Geirr Bassi Haraldsson. The Old Norse Name.

MacLysaght, E. The Surnames of Ireland. Dublin, Irish Academic Press, 1991.

Miller, B., and K. Munday. The Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry, 2nd Edition, 1992.

Ó Corráin, Donnchadh and Fidelma Maguire. Irish Names.

Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson. A Dictionary of English Surnames, 2nd Edition, 1976, reprinted 1979.

Withycombe, E.G., The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, 3rd Edition. London, Oxford University Press, 1977.


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