Kingdom of Atenveldt
25 July 2003, A.S. XXXVIII
Kingdom of Atenveldt
Unto Their Royal Majesties Erick and Nichelle; Mistress Magdelen Venturosa, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,
Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald!
This is the July 2003 internal Atenveldt Letter of Intent. It precedes the external LoI that will contain the following submissions, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry: email@example.com. Please have comments or questions to me, on any armorial matter, by 15 August 2003. [Thanks to the folks in Londinium for staying out of the summer sun and working on submissions!]
Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used!) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too: atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com.
Consultation Tables: There will be a consultation table, at which submissions will be accepted, at Kingdom Arts in Granite Mountain, 2 August.
College of Arms: Those submissions that appear in the 20 December 2002 Atenveldt LoI were acted upon at the April 2003 CoA meetings; the results are listed at the end of this report. Submissions that appear in the 20 January 2003 Atenveldt LoI were acted up at the May 2003 CoA meetings; those results are also listed below.
Please consider for the August 2003 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:
Alys Scurrell (Londinium ad Rubrum Flumen): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Purpure, a bat-winged squirrel rampant and on a chief indented Or, three acorns purpure.
The name is English. Alys is dated to 1525 in "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Alice ). Scurrell is an English family name dated to 1230 (p. 330, Reaney and Wilson, s.n. Squirrel).
Colyn MacRuairidh of Rathlin Island (Londinium): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per bend sinister rayonny purpure and Or, a stag courant argent.
The name is Scots Gaelic. Colyne (with an -e) is found as a masculine given name in "13th and 14th Century Scottish Names," Symon Freser of Lovat ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/symonFreser/scottish14/scottish14_given.html ). MacRuairidh is found in Black, pp. 562-3, s.n. MacRory. Rathlin Island lies six miles off Ballycastle, NorthernIreland, and 16 miles from the Mull of Kintyre in Scotland (http://www.antrim.net/rathlin/ ). The submitter is willing to add the terminal -e to Colyn if necessary, and to drop the locative (or better yet, have it rendered into Scots Gaelic, if it can be included in a Scots Gaelic name). He does not wish an Anglicized form of the name.
Deredere the Midwife (Londinium): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Purpure, a harpy statant gardant wings displayed and inverted, on a chief argent three ankhs sable.
Deredere is a feminine given name found in "Scottish Gaelic Given Names," (Draft in Progress Edition), Sharon L. Krossa ( http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/women/deirdre.shtml ), as the name of the wife of Cospatric Earl, 1166 (Annals, p. 109) gave a portion of the lands of Hirsel to the nuns of Coldstream" (Black, s.n. Deirdre). This spelling is most likely taken from a Latin document, although it may have been from an English language document. Midwife is an occupational byname, a woman who assists at the birth of babies ( http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/terms.html ). While "midwife" doesn't come into the English language until the 14th C., it is possible that Deredere was a family name and used generations later.
Frederick Tinamou the Untamed (Londinium): NEW BADGE
Argent, two axes crossed in saltire surmounted by a staff of Aesculapius azure, a bordure rayonny gules.
The name was registered May 1982.
Hermione Delamar (Londinium): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per bend argent and azure, a seacat gardant azure and a brunette mermaid in her vanity proper.
Hermione is a Greek feminine given name, the daughter of Helen of Troy and Menelaus; it was popular in 16th C. English literature, used as the name of a queen in Shakespeare's The Winter's Tale (p. 151, Withycombe, 3rd edition). Delamar is seen at Delamare in Dauzat, p. 185, and spelled as Dalamare and dated to 1385 in Reaney and Wilson, p. 99. This is an undated form in Reaney and Wilson.
Martha Brockbank (Londinium): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per pale inverted purpure and Or, a badger Or and three comets gules.
Martha is a feminine Hebrew given name, seen in England in 1599 and found in "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames,"
Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Martha ). Brockbank is an undated form of Brooksbank (which has an early form dated to 1379 as Brokesbank); whil Brockbank does show a date of 1700, the construction is so similar to other English locatives with things "by the brook," this seems to be a reasonable construction within period (p. 52, Reaney and Wilson).
Ragnarr bogsveigir (Londinium): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Vert, a wyvern erect wings displayed argent, on a chief rayonny Or an arrow point to dexter azure.
The name is Old Norse. Ragnarr is a masculine given name found in "Viking Names found in the Landnámabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/landnamabok.html ). The byname, found in "Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael ( http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/vikbynames.html ), means "bow-swayer, archer."
Stefan Weisswolf (Londinium): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per pale sable and gules, a wolf rampant and on a chief embattled argent a crescent gules.
The name is German. Stefan is the German form of the submitter's legal given name, found at "Late Period German Masculine Given Names
Names from 15th Century Plauen," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/germmasc/plauen15.html ). Weisswolf is a constructed byname, "white wolf," similar to what would find for period inn signs. Weiss- is found in Bahlow, p. 540, as a German surname and as the first part of compound bynames (e.g., Weisshaar, "Whitehair"; Weisskopf, "Whitehead"); Wolf is also found in Bahlow as a surname, p. 555.
The following are included in the July 2003 Atenveldt Letter of Intent (note potentially new commentary):
[This month's commentary is provided by Knute Hvitabjörn (Midrealm) [KH]; Da'ud ibn Auda, al-Jamal Herald (Ansteorra) [DiA]; Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Midrealm) [AmC] and folks attending the July meeting of Heraldry Hut. Brickbat's specific comments are noted as [MMM].]
Alexander Gagarr (Atenveldt) NEW NAME and DEVICE
Or a talbot rampant gules between a pair of dice purpure, marked Or, and a chevron inverted abased purpure.
The byname should not be capitalized, to conform with period practice and current precedent. [AmC]
The chevron, as an ordinary, would normally be expected to be the primary charge. That it is not in this case is an indication of potentially problematical design. That the chevron inverted is also throughout needs to be noted in the blazon. That the dice are in chief should also be noted in the blazon, as there is no default placement for them, and they are quite clearly emblazoned in chief. [DiA]
Although an ordinary ought to be the first charge blazoned, the talbot is so visually compelling here that I'm tempted to blazon it first. An alternative blazon might be Or, a chevron inverted abased purpure and a talbot rampant gules, in chief a pair of dice purpure, marked Or. (Note from MMM: this is the blazon that will be submitted with the device.) I think that the talbot, because of its placement and size, is co-primary with the chevron inverted abased. I feel that this combination of an animate charge and an ordinary in a single charge group should be considered to be at least a weirdness. [KH]
"While dice were shown in perspective, the known period examples depicted them face forward, rather than edge forward. This minimizes the effect of perspective. Therefore, we must return this device for redrawing." [Arcturius Aleator, LoAR 04/00, R-Atlantia] [KH], [AmC] Arcturius' submission had a single die in a single-charge device; while it would be best if Alexander renders his dice in the heraldic orientation, these are peripheral charges, and I'm sending the submission up as is-if the rendering of the dice is the only issue with the design (and the CoA will not register this otherwise), I will provide the CoA with the standard rendering. [MMM]
Cassandra Attewoode (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Argent, a rose azure, leaved within a wreath of thorns vert.
Cassandra is a Greek feminine name, found in England as far back as 1182, "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames, Index of Names Attested Between 1250 and 1450: C to E," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/index_mid2.html ). Attewoode is a locative byname, dated to 1243, "at the wood" ("A Brief Introduction to Medieval Bynames," Talan Gwynek and Arval Benicoeur, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/bynames/ ).
Fabulous name. [AmC]
The rose is not "leaved", but is rather barbed. Consider Elsa Lorelle, Argent, a rose azure, barbed and seeded proper, within an orle of compass stars elongated to base vert. Are there two, or only one, CDs for changing the orle of compass stars to a wreath of thorn? [DiA]
The barbs should appear between each of the outer petals. There shouldn't be one in the middle of the top petal. Douglas Cameron Fitzrery. Device. Per chevron vert and azure, two fleurs-de-lys and a standing balance, on a bordure Or, three thorn vines entwined in orle vert. As noted by one commenter, "The stuff on the bordure is unacceptably thin-lined and looks like knotwork." We have had a long-standing ban on the registration of knotwork. "The orle is in essence a form of Celtic knotwork, which has been ruled illicit for Society use ('Knotwork is not, by and large, heraldic.' Karina of the Far West, July, 1979)." (Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane, LoAR 28 December 1986, p. 15) LoAR 05/94 R-East Roderic of Basing - July of 1980 (via the East): Argent, upon an unbarbed rose azure another argent, seeded Or. Single CD for secondary wreath. Return for violating RfS VII.7.a, VII.7.b and conflict. [KH]
We count two CDs, one for type of secondary charge per RfS. X.4.e. Type changes. Significantly changing the type of any group of charges placed directly on the field...is one clear difference., and one for number of secondary charge per RfS. X.4.f. Number changes. Significantly changing the number of charges in any group placed directly on the field...is one clear difference. There is no indication that invoking one of these rules negates the other, as is the case with tertiary charges, which do not lie upon the field. The wreath/crown of thorns is a recognized heraldic charge, and does not have the overwhelming appearance of knotwork. This doesn't conflice with Roderic's armory, since there is 1 CD for the addition of the secondary charge and 1 CD for the removal of a tertiary charge.
Christophe de Lorraine (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per pale azure and sable, two goats clymant Or.
The name is French. Christophe is the French form of the masculine given name Christopher (pp. 65-6, Withycombe, The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, third edition); Christopher is the submitter's legal given name. Lorraine has been a kingdom, a duchy, and a province of central France (www.cr-lorraine.fr); the submitter's mother's registered name is Lore de Lorraine.
Clymant as a posture orientation for sheep and goats has been used as recently as September 1998 by the College of Arms.
Dobrushcha de Neuf-Claire (Atenveldt): NAME and DEVICE RESUBMISSIONS from Kingdom, June 2003
Purpure, semy-de-lys, two swans naiant respectant Or.
The original name, Debrus de Neuf-Claire, included documentation for the given name, other than it is a nickname given to the submitter by her grandmother. Conversation with the submitter discovered that her grandmother was Polish and the pronunciation was something akin to Duh-BROOSH (or Duh-BROOSH-kah). Dobrushcha comes close to that pronunciation (and pronunciation is the more important aspect of the name to the submitter); it is a Russian masculine given name, with variants found in the 12th and 14th C ("A Dictionary of Period Russian Names (and some of their Slavic roots)," Paul Wickenden of Thanet, http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/ ). Claire is a placename dated to 1285 in Dauzat & Rostaing (p. 193 s.n. Claira, subheader C.-du-Bois). Dauzat & Rostaing (p. 493 s.n. Neuf-Berquin) dates Neuf-Berquin to the 14th C. Given this example, a place named Neuf-Claire is plausible. Additionally, this byname was registered to Daniel de Neuf-Claire in January 2002.
There were no problems with the device; it was returned only as long as needed for a name resubmission to be made. [MMM]
Elias of Coventry (Granite Mountain): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per pale argent and gules, in pale three pairs of arrows fesswise fletchings to center, a chief indented, all counterchanged.
I've lifted this blazon from similar armory registered to Alexis von Bremen: Per pale wavy azure and argent, in pale three pairs of arrows fesswise heads to center counterchanged.
There are times when the addition of a chief (rather like the addition of a bordure) does not overcome the appearance of marshaled arms. "Bordures in impaled arms traditionally cut off at the line of division. If one impaled the hypothetical arms Argent, a cross fleury within a bordure gules and Gules, a lion within a bordure argent, the resultant impaled armory would appear to be Per pale argent and gules, a cross fleury and a lion within a bordure counterchanged. As a result, armory using a per pale line of division, a bordure, and different types of charges on each side of the line of division will look like marshalled arms if the bordure changes tincture at the line of division. It may also look like marshalled armory if the bordure is a solid tincture but has good contrast with both halves of the field. The hypothetical arms Argent, a sword within a bordure sable and Or, an eagle within a bordure sable would combine when impaled to armory which would appear to be Per pale argent and Or, a sword and an eagle within a bordure sable. Thus, the only case in which a bordure may remove the appearance of impalement from armory which would otherwise appear to be impaled is if the bordure is a solid tincture and if it has poor contrast with one half of the field. That is the case with this device." (LoAR March 2002, p. 6) The arms here really appear to be marshaled arms, an appearance which the addition of the chief does nothing to reduce. [DiA] The consensus of commentary at Heraldry Hut was that this submission does not have the appearance of marshalling. Not only are the charges on either side of the line of division (a coincidence that we'd consider to be vanishingly small were two independent sets of arms be impaled), but the complex line of division on the chief also reduces the likelihood that the two "sides" could be independent armories. [MMM]
Flavia Elena Glamorganshire (Sundragon): NEW DEVICE
Per pale argent and vert, a panther sejant to sinister, forepaw raised, and a bear passant, respectant counterchanged, on a chief azure three cinquefoils argent.
The name appears in the 15 February 2003 Atenveldt Letter of Intent.
Since we've already noted in the blazon that the panther is "sejant to sinister", we do not need the later word "respectant" in the blazon. [DiA] The panther is not in a heraldic posture. Its forequarters are passant and its hindquarters are couchant. The bear appears to be in trian aspect. Return for violating RfS VII.7.a [KH] Sejant, sinister forepaw raised, has been a registerable posture (no different, however, from sejant), for years. Adding some line details helps the identifiability of the beasts, although Knute is probably correct in assuming that the depictions of them are taken from natural, rather than heraldic, renderings of the animals. [MMM]
Gerardus Christopherus du Bourgogne (Mons Tonitrus): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Sable, two swords inverted in saltire surmounted by a bear's head cabossed between two fleurs-de-lys in fess and another in base, all argent and in chief a label dovetailed Or.
[Name] I know of no evidence for unmarked patronymics in Latin, and double give names are unheard of in early period. This can be corrected by changing Christopherus to Christopherii. [AmC] Robin of Rhovanion counters that Latin became bastardized and "sloppy" enough in its late history that if this could be considered a patronymic, it would be as likely unchanged. Again, I note that the submitter is interested in a Norman French name.
Grigour MacNeilly (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per bend sinister vert and sable, two dragonflies Or.
The name is Irish. Grigour is Middle Irish, a borrowing of the masculine given name Gregory (p. 327, Black, s.n. Gregor). MacNeilly is an Irish family name (p. 234, MacLysaght).
Heinrich vom Schwarzwald (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per bend sinister counterermine and ermine, a decrescent argent and a brown owl statant contorny proper.
The name is German. Heinrich is the German equivalent of Henry and is found in "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/bahlow/ ). vom is a contracted form of von dem ,"of the" (Collins German-English English-German Dictionary, Berkley Book, NY, NY). Schwarzwald is German for "Black Forest," a region of Bavaria ( http://www.schwarzwald.net/stories/roemer.html ).
Jehanne la Torta de Calais (Granite Mountain): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Purpure, a bend sinister wavy argent between a quill of yarn and a quill pen bendwise Or.
The name is French. Jehanne is dated to 1528 in "Late Period Feminine Names from the South of France," Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/latefrenchfem/ ). The same citation lists la Torta as a descriptive byname, "gimpy" or lame, dated to 1521. Calais was a major port in period, having been initially founded as a fishing village ( http://www.french-at-a-touch.com/French_Regions/Nord_Pas_de_Calais/nord-pas-de-calais_town_information.htm ). Again, this is excellent documentation for a name, all provided by the submitter.
The bend sinister could use more wave to the waviness, but this is a good number; they just need to be a little deeper and more prominent, that's all.
Lughaidh Cruidire: DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, June 2003
Quarterly vert and sable, a glove Or charged with a mullet vert, an orle Or.
The name appears in the 25 June 2003 Atenveldt LoI.
The original submission, without the orle, was returned for conflict with Lyle FitzWilliam, Vert, on the palm of a sinister hand Or, a fret couped vert. There is a single CD for field, no CD for type only of tertiary. Adding the orle clears the conflict. [MMM]
Mons Tonitrus, Barony of: NEW ORDER NAME and BADGE for Order of the Sable Arrows
Argent, a sheaf of arrows between flaunches sable, a bordure counterchanged.
The name of the Barony was registered in January 1991.
This is a baronial award for Archery. While it has been determined by the College of Arms, as recently as December 2002 (in the registration of the Order of the Black Pheon (Atenveldt), originally submitted as the Order of the Sable Pheon), that documentation cannot be found in which heraldic tinctures were used in order names, and that Meradudd Cethin's article "Project Ordensnamen" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/) shows evidence of common color names, such as bleu, used in French order names rather than the heraldic tincture azure, the Barony requests that the CoA consider the registration of this name, which matches the names of Orders previously registered to Mons Tonitrus, notably the Order of the Sable Harps of Mons Tonitrus and the Order of the Sable Chevronels. The Barony requests the College consider the plural of arrow as well, following the previously -established order names. Should this tradition not be permitted, the Barony will accept the Order of the Black Arrow(s). (I have heard that there will be a Pour, bordering on a Sulk, will occur should this occur.)
The armory uses a counterchange of a similar badge registered to the Barony, Sable, a thunderbolt between flaunches argent all within a bordure counterchanged.
Muirgheal inghean Raghailligh mhic Seachnasaigh (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE
(fieldless) A badger statant sable.
The name was registered May 2000.
The submitter is using an element from her registered armory, Argent, a fret gules surmounted by a badger statant sable and a chief indented gules.
Néill ó Néill (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per pale azure and sable, in pale two bulls passant argent.
The name is Irish Gaelic. Néill is a variant form of Niall (p. 185, Ó Corráin and Maguire), itself an Irish masculine given name (pp. 145-6, ibid.). The clan affiliation construction follows the pattern found in "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names Formerly Published as "Quick and Easy Gaelic Bynames," 3rd Edition, Sharon L. Krossa ( http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/#clanaffiliationbyname ).
Phineas MacGoldrick (Twin Moons): NEW NAME, DEVICE and BADGE
Quarterly gules and argent, in bend two crosses patee gules each charged with a fleur-de-lys Or.
(fieldless) A cross patee per pale gules and Or charged with a fleur-de-lys counterchanged.
[Device] The crosses are forced to an in bend sinister arrangement (i.e., their orientation on the field doesn't need to be included in the blazon). These crosses have the large central area characteristic of a cross formy and the arms have the straight sides and swallowtail ends of a cross of Malta. These aren't identifiable because they blur the distinction between the two. Clear, but return for redraw. [KH] We can safely drop "in bend" from the blazon; the gules crosses could not be placed on the gules quarters of the shield in any case. [DiA]
[Badge] This cross has the large central area characteristic of a cross formy and the arms have the straight sides and swallowtail ends of a cross of Malta. It isn't identifiable because it blurs the distinction between the two.
Clear, but return for redraw. [KH]
The term cross paty/patee is no longer used in SCA blazonry, as it is ambiguous and non-period (it is a post-period term that refers to the cross formy); in period, "paty" referred to any cross with splayed limbs (this is commentary found in the Pictorial Dictionary). The following commentary was found in Online Precedents: "Blazoned in the LoI as a Maltese cross, the primary charge does not have the arms meeting in the center at a point, one of the defining characteristics of a Maltese cross. [It was registered as a cross formy swallowtailed] (Ranulf Throckmorton, 5/95 p. 9)". I am sending on these submissions with this blazon of the crosses. [MMM]
Ragnarr Gunnarsson (Twin Moons): NEW HOUSEHOLD NAME, Halir Þórs
The personal name was registered February 2003.
The household name is Old Norse, "Thor's Heroes." Halr is shown as "man, hero," in An Introduction to Old Norse, E.V. Gordon, second edition, Oxford: Clarendon Press, and this is said to be the plural form; Þórs is said to be the genitive form of Þór.
Isn't this presumptious per RfS I.3.b? "Presumptuous Claims - A name or piece of armory which expresses or implies presumptuous claims to status or powers that the submitter does not possess will not be registered. "No name or armory will be registered that could be considered presumptuous and thereby cause offense to a significant segment of the Society. See Part VI, Presumptuous Names, and Part XI, Presumptuous Armory." (Wow. I've never cited anything from RfS 1 before!) [AmC]
Returning Bayt al-Da'ud [house of David], Laurel stated: "Conflicts with the Biblical King David, per RfS V.5., 'Names that unmistakably imply identity with or close relationship to a specific person or literary character will not be registered.' As Master Bruce noted, any claim of relationship -- be it 'house of David', 'descendants of David', or 'drinking buddies of David' -- will run afoul of this Rule. And King David was known to the Arabs as simply Da'ud." [LoAR November 1993, p.15] I think "Thor's heroes" also falls afoul of this rule and precedent. [DiA]
The submitter was told that there was a possibility that commentary like this (and a subsequent return) might be the result, and we would like to give him the opportunity to have this submission ruled upon by the CoA as a whole. That this is a fighting household with a dedication to a rather martial deity is not that farfetched from a group that is dedicated to a saint (Damian von Baden has a badge registered for the Compay of Saint Oswald, September 1998; Wilhelm Cameron von Holstein, the Company of Saint Constantine in January1996; Aliena von Bingen, the Household of Saint Hildegard, June 1995; and the Barony of Lochmere, the Company of Saint Martha, March 2002), particularly to a group that is focusing on a pre-Christian culture.
Ryan Dollas (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Vert, rapier bendwise sinister between two four-leafed clovers slipped Or, a bordure rayonny argent.
Ryan is the submitter's legal given name (photocopy of driver's license provided). Additionally, Ryan is the Anglicised form of the Irish Gaelic masculine given name Ríán/Rian (Ó Corráin and Maguire, p. 155), which was determined to be an acceptable Anglicised form in the April 1988 LoAR for the name Ryan von Gutenburg. Dôl-las is Welsh for "green meadow" and is found in Welsh Place-names and Their Meanings, Dewi Davies, p. 16; discussions with Tangwystyl vert Morgant Glasvyrn, Harpy Herald, at alt.heraldry.sca have her suggesting that the hyphen and circumflex on the -o- be removed, as they are modern developments; copies of Davies' book page and discussions with Harpy are included. Again, good documentation on the name!
Ack! Anglicized Gaelic and Welsh is likely not registerable. This has not been ruled on yet, though. Gaelic/Welsh combinations were ruled unregisterable on the 08/01 LoAR. [AmC] While this might be the case, I suspect that this will be considered acceptable, since Ryan is the submitter's legal given name. [MMM]
Sean of the South (Tir Ysgithr): DEVICE REUSUBMISSION from Laurel, April 2003
Quarterly Or and vert, two crosses bottony Or, all within a bordure counterchanged.
The name was registered April 2000.
The previous submission, Quarterly Or and vert, two crosses bottony Or. (and Quarterly vert and Or, two crosses bottony Or.) conflict with Robert Fagan of Blackstoke, Quarterly per fess indented sable and Or, two crosses crosslet fitchy Or. There is one CD for difference in the field and one CD for the addition of the bordure.
Sorcha inghean Dhara mhic Seachnasaigh (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE
(fieldless) A lozenge ployé within and conjoined to the horns of an increscent a bordure argent.
The name was registered May 2000.
The submitter is using element of her registered armory, Per fess azure and vert, a lozenge ployé within and conjoined to the horns of an increscent a bordure argent.
Sorcha inghean Dhara mhic Seachnasaigh (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE, jointly with Muirgheal inghean Raghailligh mhic Seachnasaigh
Per fess azure and vert, a fret and a bordure argent.
Both personal names were registered May 2000.
Svana Ormstunga Vermundardóttir (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per fess indented argent and sable, in chief three bees one and two sable, and in base a duck statant, Or.
The byname should not be capitalized to confirm with period practice and current precedent. [AmC]
The duck is not "statant" but rather in its default (close) posture, which does not need to be specifically noted in the blazon. [DiA] Although there are more indents than recommended on the mini-emblazon shown, I feel that this field division line is large enough to be identifiable. [KH] These recommendations will be applied in the LoI. [MMM]
The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, April 2003:
Alamanda de Claret. Name.
Cadogan map Cado. Device. Sable, on a plate a wolf statant gules and on a chief argent four flames gules.
He has permission to conflict from Cartismandua Natione Veniconum, Sable, on a plate a hedgehog statant gules, on a chief argent three hedgehogs statant gules.
Caterina Amiranda della Quercia. Badge. (Fieldless) In pale a demi-dragon contourny sable issuant from a tankard reversed argent.
Conall mac Rónáin. Device. Per pall vert argent and sable, a stag's head cabossed counterchanged sable and argent and in chief a torque argent.
Garrett Fitzpatrick. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Gráinne inghean uí Shéamuis. Name.
Katherine Rhys. Name and device. Azure, on a bend between two quadrants argent three crosses couped azure.
Lí Ban ingen uí Dhuinnín. Device. Purpure, in pale a sheaf of arrows inverted and a unicorn argent all within a bordure argent semy of trefoils vert.
Robert de Zwijger van Limburg. Device. Argent, a bend sinister cotised vert between a compass rose and a grenade sable enflamed proper.
Tiernan Dugrais. Name change from holding name Alan of Atenveldt.
Listed on the LoI as Tighearnán Dugrais, the LoI noted that the submitter's first choice for a given name was Tiernan. Being unable to find documentation for Tiernan in period, they noted recent registrations of Tiernan as a given name and asked that if anyone had access to the documentation for these submissions, the submitter would appreciate it. By coincidence, the registerability of Tiernan was addressed recently (so recently, in fact, that the LoAR with that discussion was not available during the commentary period for this submission): There was some question regarding the registerability of Tiernan. Tiernan is an Anglicized Irish form of the Gaelic masculine given name Tighearnán. The question is whether or not Tiernan is a period Anglicized form of this name. The given name Tighearnán was in use in late period as can be seen in the "Annals of the Four Masters", vol. 6, (http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/G100005F/), entry M1590.3, which mentions Tighearnan Bán mac Briain mic Eoghain Uí Ruairc. Because this name was used in late period, it is logical that there was an Anglicized form of this name existed. Since no Anglicized forms of this given name have yet been found in period Anglicized records (probably due mainly to the scarcity of such records), we have only period Anglicized forms of bynames formed from Tighearnán to examine. Woulfe (p. 410 s.n. Mac Tighearnáin) dates M'Tiernane and M'Ternane to temp. Elizabeth I-James I. Woulfe (p. 652 s.n. Ó Tighearnáin) also dates O Ternane and O Tiernan to the same time period. Given these examples, Tiernan is reasonable as a period Anglicized form of Tighearnán. [Tiernan Moor, LoAR 02/2003, A-An Tir]
We have changed the given name in this submission to Tiernan, which was the submitter's first choice as a given name, since it is a plausible as an Anglicized Irish name in period, and so is registerable.
Ulbrecht vom Walde. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Submitted as Ulbrecht vom Wald, the submitter requested authenticity for 7th C German. As this request was not included in the LoI, the College did not have the opportunity to provide commentary regarding authentic forms of this name for that language and time period. No documentation was included on the LoI for the byname vom Wald except the statement "'of the forest' (this is a contraction of von dem Wald, and the one concern is that the contraction might be a post-period practice)". Multiple members of the College found documentation for this byname. For example, Sommelier commented: Bahlow/Gentry 2nd (sn Wald(e), p.532) has Hans vorm Walde dated to 1471 and Wernher zu dem Walde dated to 1361. In the same source (sn Ulbrich(t), p. 518), Ulbrecht (Albrecht) Gryfstete is dated 1379-86 and Ulbrecht Geißeler is dated 1482.
The information found by the College consistently shows Walde as the form of this word used in bynames. We have made this change in order to register this name. The commentary provided by the College supports Ulbrecht vom Walde as a late 14th C or 15th C German name. Lacking information about how this name might appear in 7th C German, we do not know if it is authentic for that time and culture.
The following submissions were returned for further work by the College of Arms, April 2003:
Garrett Fitzpatrick. Device. Vert, a chevron between three cats statant argent.
Conflict with Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, Vert, a chevron between three falcons argent, Caitlyn Emrys, Vert, a chevron between three peacocks pavonated to base argent, and Harrys Rob of Wamphray, Vert, a chevron between three winged spurs argent. In each case there is only one CD for changing the type of secondary charges. We have reblazoned the cats from herissony to statant, as their backs are not arched enough to be blazoned herissony.
Jacquelin of Normandy. Badge for House of Stone's Rest. Purpure, a sword inverted proper and in chief a quill pen fesswise Or.
Conflict with Neal Gyrfalcon, Purpure, perched atop the pommel of a sword inverted proper a gyrfalcon contourny argent. There is one CD for adding the quill pen in chief and no difference for removing the small, insignificant (effectively "maintained") gyrfalcon.
Please advise the submitter that, for the sword to keep its current blazoned primary charge status, it should be drawn somewhat larger in comparison to the quill pen. Alternately, the quill pen and sword could be drawn the same size and could be considered co-primary charges. Note that redrawing will not clear the current conflict call - that analysis is the same whether the quill pen is considered a primary or a secondary charge. However, on resubmission, the quill pen should be clearly drawn as either a subsidiary secondary charge or as a co-primary charge. The difference is likely to be important in further potential conflict comparisons.
Sean of the South. Device. Quarterly Or and vert, two crosses bottony Or.
Conflict with Robert Fagan of Blackstoke, Quarterly per fess indented sable and Or, two crosses crosslet fitchy Or. The text in the previous return (where Sean's submission was Quarterly vert and Or, two crosses bottony Or) still applies, "There is one CD for changing the field. 'There is not a CD between a cross crosslet fitchy and a cross bottony' (LoAR December 1999)." (LoAR August 2002).
There is no difference for changing the arrangement of the crosses. RfS X.4.g states: "Changing the relative positions of charges in any group placed directly on the field or overall is one clear difference, provided that change is not caused by other changes to the design." Because the Or crosses may not overlie the Or portion of the field, they are forced to be in the two vert quarters. Thus, the change in the relative positions of the crosses is "caused by other changes to the design" - namely, the changes to the field - and is not worth difference.
Ulbrecht vom Walde. Device. Purpure, on a lozenge Or a tree eradicated vert.
Conflict with Caterina Nadalini, Purpure, on a lozenge ployé Or a bunch of grapes proper. There is a CD for changes to the tertiary charge group by X.4.j, but no difference between a lozenge ployé and a lozenge.
The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, May 2003:
Adelyn la Souteresse. Name change from Eibhilin ni Mhaghnuis.
Her previous name, Eibhilin ni Mhaghnuis, is retained as an alternate name.
Adriana von Grimme. Name and device. Gules, on a cross ermine between four rabbits sejant argent a cross sable.
Submitted as Adriana von Grimm, all period examples found of this byname have an e on the end of the byname. Metron Ariston explains: While Bahlow in the place cited primarily notes examples where Grimm is a descriptive, he does cite two period examples with a prepositional form: Wulfard von Grimme from 1284 and Jorge von Grymme from 1491. However, both of these use a clear dative form so I would register this as Adriana von Grimme. We have changed this byname to von Grimme to match the documented examples.
Concerning the device, precedent indicates that fimbriating in a fur is not registerable heraldic style: "Ermine fimbriation is disallowed (LoAR of 3 Aug 86, p.17)..." (LoAR of October 1992, p. 26). Precedent also indicates that voiding, fimbriation, and "on an X an X" are considered equivalent designs for purposes of conflict, as is discussed more fully in the LoAR of June 2002.
Heraldic designs which are equivalent for purposes of conflict are not always equivalent for purposes of style: In this case the blazon can make a difference: while you cannot "blazon your way out of" a conflict, you can "blazon your way out of" a style problem. If not, all submissions of per chevron, three <X> would be returned because they could also be blazoned as a charged chapé. (LoAR February 2000). Therefore, we can consider whether this submission is a registerable depiction of an ermine cross charged with a sable cross, without being concerned about the fact that a cross sable fimbriated ermine is not registerable. This submission does have an acceptable depiction of a cross ermine charged with a cross sable. In this depiction, the portion of the ermine cross that shows is wide enough so that the ermine spots lying upon the cross are clearly identifiable: they are not too small to be identified, and the ermine spots and the tertiary cross do not overlap, and thus do not obscure each others' identifiability. This submission is therefore stylistically acceptable.
Anna Carye. Name.
This name does not conflict with opera singer Annie Louise Cary (1841-1921), even though she has her own entry in the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. The "From Laurel: Beyond the Encyclopedia" section of the Cover Letter for the January 2003 LoAR explains: In order to bring the decision back within the College of Arms and to realign with our scope of protection, we are refining the process by which we decide which names to protect. Beginning with this letter, each name will be evaluated individually. The initial factor will continue to be an entry in a general-purpose encyclopedia. However, now we consider the prominence of this person (including when they lived and the length and contents of their encyclopedia entry) when determinining whether they are important enough to protect.
In accordence with this policy, since the singer Annie Louise Cary has an entry in the Encyclopedia Britannica, we considered whether or not she was important enough to protect. In this case, Annie Louise Cary is simply not well enough known among the general populace of the SCA to warrant protecting her name.
Aylwin Wyllowe. Name.
Björn Eiríksson. Name and device. Azure, a Thor's hammer argent within an annulet Or charged with eight mullets of eight points azure.
Listed on the LoI as Bjorn Erikson, the form listed this name as Bjorn Eriksson. The submitter requested authenticity for "Norse Viking" and allowed any changes. We have changed this name to the completely Old Norse form Björn Eiríksson in order to meet the submitter's request for authenticity.
Charles de Lacy. Name and device. Per bend sinister Or and vert, a Lacy knot counterchanged and in dexter chief a crescent vert.
Conall mac Magnusa. Name change from holding name Conall of Twin Moons and badge. (Fieldless) A shamrock sable charged with a triquetra Or.
Gunnar Silverbeard. Name and device. Argent, a sea-bull sable and a chief embattled gules.
The documentation provided in the LoI entry for this submission was inadequate. If this submission were judged solely on the evidence provided in the LoI, this name would have been returned for problems with both the given name and the byname. The LoI stated: The name is Old Norse and English. Gunnar is a masculine given name, "Viking Names found in the Land-námabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedemann/names/landnamabok.htm <(http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedemann/names/landnamabok.htm>). The second element is a descriptive byname consistent with Norse practice of referring to an individual's physical characteristics; the submitter is not interested in using a translated form of the byname. The information provided in the LoI for the given name Gunnar does not match the information in the cited article. The statement that Silverbeard "is a descriptive byname consistent with Norse practice of referring to an individual's physical characteristics" provides no evidence that Silverbeard is a plausible byname in period.
Multiple members of the College went out of their way to provide the missing documentation as a courtesy to the submitter and we would like to thank them for their efforts. Regarding the given name, the correct title for Aryanhwy's article is "Viking Names found in the Landnámabók" and it is now located at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/landnamabok.html. However, the name found there (and in Geirr Bassi) is Gunnarr, not Gunnar. Lind, E. H. Norsk-Islädska Dopnamn ock Fingerade Namn från Medeltiden (column 404 s.n. Gunnarr) dates Gunnar to 1374 and 1393, supporting Gunnar as a 14th C Norse/Icelandic form of this name. Sommelier found documentation to support Silverbeard as a plausible descriptive byname in English: R&W (sn Silverlock, p. 409) date John Silverloc to 1268 (from silver lock, silver hair) and John Silvertop (sn Silverside, p. 409) is dated 1478 with the meaning silver hair. They similarly list Peter Blacloke 1275 and Adam Blakelok 1332 probably from black-beard (sn Blacklock, p. 47) and William Whytlok is dated to 1285 (among others, sn Whitelock, p. 487). Given the R&W citations for black-beard (sn Blackbird, p. 46 with William Blacberd 1206, Thomas Blakeberd 1275) and white-beard (sn Whitbread, p. 486 with William Witberd 1221, Walter Wyteberd 1297), "silver-beard" is a plausible English descriptive epithet.
We would like to remind submissions heralds that inadequate documentation has been and will continue to be a reason for return.
Jehanne Chrestienne. Name and device. Gules estencely, an annulet Or.
Submitted as Jehanne Feu Chrestienne, Feu was submitted as a surname listed in Cateline de la Mor's article "Sixteenth Century Norman Names" (http://www.s_gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html). Information has been found that Feu is used to mean 'deceased' in French records, not as a surname. Sommelier explains: I believe that Cateline's article is in error and the Feu is not a surname, but rather means "deceased". The two examples in Colm's "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" appear to use feu in this manner: Aalèz fame feu Jehan de Londres and Andrie fame feu Jehan de Beaumont. This is also the meaning I have seen in the genealogical research I have done, which covers the late 1600s through the mid-1800s. I don't know about period records, but post-period (1700s and 1800s) it is common to see illegitimate children simply identified as <name> fille/fils <mother' name> in civil registration records (birth, marriage, and death records). If the mother is dead, this becomes <name> fille/fils feu <mother' name>. Feu does not appear in Dauzat. Lacking evidence that Feu was used as a French surname in period, rather than as a notation meaning deceased, Feu is not registerable as a surname. Since the submitter allows dropping of Feu, we have dropped this element in order to register this name. As both Jehanne and Chrestienne are feminine given names, the name Jehanne Chrestienne is a given name with an unmarked matronymic byname. Based on the examples found by Sommelier, this name would also be registerable as Jehanne fame feu Chrestien 'Jehanne wife of the deceased Chrestien'. Chrestien is found as a masculine given name in Colm's article cited by Sommelier above.
Jens Sveinsson. Name (see RETURNS for device).
The submitter requested authenticity for 1500 to 1600 Norse/Scandinavian. Lind, E. H. Norsk-Islädska Dopnamn ock Fingerade Namn från Medeltiden (column 995) dates Svein to 1456 as a given name, supporting Sveinsson as a late period Icelandic/Norse patronymic byname.
Kathleen MacChluarain the Pure. Badge. Quarterly vert and argent, in bend sinister two roses slipped and leaved bendwise sinister sable. Konrad von Grimme. Name and device. Gules, on a cross erminois between four lions' heads erased Or a cross sable.
Submitted as Konrad von Grimm, all period examples found of this byname have an e on the end of the byname. Metron Ariston explains: While Bahlow in the place cited primarily notes examples where Grimm is a descriptive, he does cite two period examples with a prepositional form: Wulfard von Grimme from 1284 and Jorge von Grymme from 1491. However, both of these use a clear dative form so I would register this as Konrad von Grimme.
We have changed this byname to von Grimme to match the documented examples.
Concerning the device, precedent indicates that fimbriating in a fur is not registerable heraldic style: "Ermine fimbriation is disallowed (LoAR of 3 Aug 86, p.17)..." (LoAR of October 1992, p. 26). Precedent also indicates that voiding, fimbriation, and "on an X an X" are considered equivalent designs for purposes of conflict, as is discussed more fully in the LoAR of June 2002.
Heraldic designs which are equivalent for purposes of conflict are not always equivalent for purposes of style: In this case the blazon can make a difference: while you cannot "blazon your way out of" a conflict, you can "blazon your way out of" a style problem. If not, all submissions of per chevron, three <X> would be returned because they could also be blazoned as a charged chapé. (LoAR February 2000).
Therefore, we can consider whether this submission is a registerable depiction of an erminois cross charged with a sable cross, without being concerned about the fact that a cross sable fimbriated erminois is not registerable. This submission does have an acceptable depiction of a cross erminois charged with a cross sable. In this depiction, the portion of the erminois cross that shows is wide enough so that the ermine spots lying upon the cross are clearly identifiable: they are not too small to be identified, and the ermine spots and the tertiary cross do not overlap, and thus do not obscure each others' identifiability. This submission is therefore stylistically acceptable.
Nicholas Fletcher of Canterbury. Name.
Pauline the Apothecary. Name and device. Azure, a crescent argent and on a chief Or three oak leaves bendwise sinister vert.
Sorcha MacGregor. Name and device. Per chevron azure and Or, two Celtic crosses argent and a dragon passant gules.
Tighearain Blackwater. Badge. Sable, on a bend wavy between two crosses formy argent three suns in their splendor palewise sable.
Zhigmun' Broghammer. Device. Erminois, a Caucasian frauenadler displayed proper crined and feathered sable all within a bordure azure. This submission was pended from the October 2002 LoAR due to an incorrect blazon.
The following submissions have been returned for further work, May 2003:
Catherine Diana de Chambéry. Badge. (Fieldless) A mullet of four points elongated to base quarterly argent and azure.
Conflict with Gerhard Helmbrecht von Offenbach, (Fieldless) A compass star quarterly argent and azure, registered in January 2003. There is one CD for fieldnessness. There is no difference between a mullet of four points and a compass star per the LoAR of January 2001: "As neither a compass star nor a mullet of four points are period charges, and they differ only by the addition of the lesser points, there is not a CD between a mullet of four points and a compass star." There is also no difference for the slight artistic variant in elongating the bottom point of a mullet.
Note that this armory is eligible for the letter of permission to conflict against the badge of Eleanor Leonard, (Tinctureless) A mullet of four points distilling a goutte, described in the cover letter of the January 2002 LoAR. It is eligible because the mullet is divided into more than one tincture.
Ian Cradoc. Device change. Per fess azure and sable, three decrescents Or and a turnpike argent.
The turnpike, or turnstyle, in this submission would be the defining registration of this charge in SCA heraldry. Defining instances of charges require slightly higher standards of documentation than registrations of previously registered charges. This policy has been upheld consistently for over ten years but one of the clearest statements of the policy is in the LoAR of August 1995:
A registration of this submission would apparently be the first, and therefore defining, instance of such a charge. Especially in the case of charges not registered previously, the College requires documentation that the charge (a) has been used in period armory or (b) is compatible with similar charges in period armory, and (c) has a standardized depiction which would make reproducability [sic] from the blazon possible. We need such documentation here.
This submission was accompanied by a single piece of documentation from Parker's A Glossary of Terms used in Heraldry. This book does not clearly date the charge as having been used in period armory. The only date provided in Parker is associated with the crest of Skipworth, but appears to be the date of the founding of the baronetcy rather than the date of the crest. We consulted Fairbairn's Crests, but that volume did not help resolve the date of that particular crest. No evidence was presented by the submitting kingdom, and none was found by the College or Laurel staff, for use of a turnpike in period heraldry.
If a turnpike is a period artifact, it would probably be "compatible with similar charges in period armory" such as portcullises and doors However, no evidence was presented describing a period turnpike. Nor was documentation presented showing that a turnpike "has a standardized depiction which would make reproducability [sic] from the blazon possible." The submission must therefore be returned until such time as the turnpike may be documented appropriately for a defining instance of the charge.
Jens Sveinsson. Device. Argent, a merman proper crined sable maintaining in his sinister hand an open book argent fimbriated gules all within a bordure engrailed vert semy of escallops argent.
The engrailings on the bordure are too numerous and too shallow for easy identifiability: this could just as easily appear to be indented from any distance. This must be returned per RfS VIII.3, which states in part, "Identifiable elements may be rendered unidentifiable by significant reduction in size." In addition, the maintained book may not be fimbriated. RfS VIII.3 states, in part, "Voiding and fimbriation may only be used with simple geometric charges placed in the center of the design." An open book is not a simple geometric charge and it is not in the center of the field in this device. Note that the book was blazoned on the Letter of Intent as an open book argent bound gules, but that blazon would not necessarily recreate the fact that the binding fimbriates the book around all of its edges. The escallops on the bordure would be more identifiable if they were larger and if there were fewer of them.
Tearlach McIntosh. Name.
This name conflicts with Charles Macintosh (1766-1843), the Scottish chemist and inventor who invented waterproofed fabric and who has his own entry in the online version of the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. It is from his name that a raincoat is often called a "macintosh" throughout much of the English-speaking world. The names Tearlach (which is pronounced approximately "TCHAHR-l@", where @ represents a schwa sound) and Charles have been equated over time due to their similarity in sound. It is this similarity in sound which is the cause for this conflict.
Sommelier notes: Black (sn Tearlach, p. 764) notes "Teàrlach is the Gaelic name with which Charles has been equated. There is no co[nn]ection between the two names, it being simply a case of adopting a name like or nearly like in sound to the Gaelic." Black also notes "In Irish as a forename it has been Anglicized Turlough and Terence (!)."
Black (p. 465 s.n. MacCarlich) shows that the association of these names and so similarity in their pronunciation, dates to period in Scots (a language closely related to English), when he states that "Tarlocht M'Ene V'Carlych, a witness in 1573, appears again in the same year as Charles M'Ane V'Tarlych and as Therlycht M'Ain W'Therlycht". Therefore, because of the similarity in sound between the names Charles and Tearlach, these names conflict.
The College noted other information regarding the given name Tearlach that the submitter may wish to consider when resubmitting this name.
Tearlachis a Modern Gaelic (c. 1700 to present) form of this name. Lacking evidence that it was used in Gaelic in period, it is not registerable. The Middle Gaelic (c. 900 to c. 1200) form of this name is Tairdelbach. The Early Modern Gaelic (c. 1200 to c. 1700) form of this name is Toirdhealbhach. This name appears in Scots (as noted in Black, p. 465 s.n. MacCarlich, cited above) as Tarlocht and Therlycht in 1573.
Anglicized Irish forms of this name are found in indentures listed in footnotes in John O'Donovan, ed., Annals of Ireland, by the Four Masters, vol. 5. These indentures date the given name forms Tirlagh to 1578 (pp. 1710-1712), Tirlogh and Tirloghe to 1576 (pp. 1690-1691), Tirrelage to 1570 (pp. 1651-1652), and Tirreloghe to 1570 (pp. 1649-1650).
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