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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 1 June 2012, A.S. XLVII
LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt


Unto Their Royal Majesties Thomas and Ilora; Master Seamus, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings of the New Year from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!


This is the June 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. Please have commentary to me by 15 June 2012.


Speaking of submissions: I accept direct-to-Kingdom submissions from heraldic clients; this might not be the most favorable route to take, particularly if a group has a territorial herald, and everyone can stay more in the “submission loop” if a submission is made in this fashion. However, in some cases, this is the only reasonable and timely way for a submission to be made. Local heralds need to send submissions on in a timely manner as well (i.e., within one month of receiving a submissions packet). If you cannot connect with me at an event (very likely) or attend Heraldry Hut, submissions need to be mailed within one month (yes, that's IMPORTANT!) of a local herald receiving them, unless there is a reason for return at the local level. My address: Linda Miku, 2527 E. 3rd Street, Tucson AZ 85716.


Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site, along with guidelines for painlessly filling out the forms. Please let your local populace know about the site, too: atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com.


Upcoming Consultation Tables: There will be an heraldic consultation table at Kingdom Collegium in Mons Tonitrus. It'll be held on Saturday, 9 June. If you need assistance, or know someone who could use a little consultation, send them our way. Of course, if you'd like to sit on the heralds' side of the table, that would be cool! Remember that there is a mandatory Atenveldt College of Heralds meeting at the Collegium on Sunday morning, 10 June.


The following submissions are under consideration for inclusion in the June 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Aonghas MacFaolain (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per pale and per chevron sabele and Or, three bull's heads cabossed counterchanged.

Aonghas is the Gaelic form of Angus, according to Black's The Surnames of Scotland, pp. 23-4 s.n. Angus. This spelling was registered to Aonghas of Rannachmoor February 2006. The documentation for that name was given as being in "Scottish Gaelic Given Names" Sharon L. Krossa, http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/ as Aonghus in the 14th-16th centuries. Faoláin is the genitive form of an Early Modern Irish Gaelic male name (nominative is Faolán), in “ Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) genitive form: Faoláin in “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Fáelán / Faolán,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Faelan.shtml. The client wants a male name and is most interested in the language/culture of the name; he would like it authentic for the 15th C. He will not accept Major changes to the name.


Caitríona inghean Fhaoláin mhic Gearóid (Tir Ysgithr): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, January 2012

Per bend sinister engrailed gules and vert, a serpent nowed Or and a rapier bendwise sinister argent.

The name was registered January 2012.

The original device submission, Or, an oak tree eradicated and fructed proper within an orle per pale azure and purpure., was returned for

conflict with the device of Orlando dei Medici, Or, a crequier vert.; there is a CD for the addition of the orle, but no difference is granted between a crequier and an oak tree. This is a complete redesign.


Heinrekr hinn þormóði (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Ermine, a boar rampant within an orle gules.

The name is Old Norse. Heinrekr is a male given name found on the Viking Answer Lady's website, www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml ; it is seen on p. 11 of Geirr Bassi's “The Old Norse Name” as well. The byname means “the bold”and is a descriptive byname found on “The Bynames of the Viking Age Runic Inscriptions,” www.s-gabriel.org/names/lindorm/runicbynames/mental.htm#start. The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound of the name.


Sanchia Allain (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per bend sinister purpure and Or, a hare salient counterchanged.

The name is English. Sanchia is a female given name dated to 1243 in Withycombe, 3rd edition, p. 263 s.n. Sanchia. Allain is an English surname; while undated, Alain is dated to c. 1246 (Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, p. 7 s.n. Allain). The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound of the name.


Willelm Keel (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Gyronny gules and Or, a badger rampant within an orle sable.

The name is English. Willelm is a male given name dated to 1067 (Withycombe, 3rd edition, pp. 293-4 s.n. William). Keel is a locative surname; (de) Keel is dated to 1332 (Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, p. 261 s.n. Keel). The client is most interested in a male name.


The following submissions appear in the May 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Commentary is provided by Aryanhwy merch Catmael [AmC], Gunnvor silfraharr [Gs], Taran the Wayward [TW] and Marta [MMM].


Belle Cerise (Twin Moons): NAME and DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, February 2012

Gules, on a bend cotised argent a branch of cherry blossoms throughout proper.

Originally submitted as Cerise De Fleur, it was returned because no documentation was presented to demonstrate Cerise as a period name. Belle is a female French given name, found in “An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris,” Colm Dubh, http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/paris.html#B. The byname Cerise was registered October 2005 to Cécille Cerise of Cherybeare without comment. Documentation for the byname provided by Shauna Laurel Archivist shows that the documentation provided comes from Dauzat, pg. 96, under Cérié: (Lanquedoc forme régionale) Cerisier n. d'arble caractéristique du domaine. - cerise, cerise doit désigner plus spéccialement un producteur au vendeur de cerises. (trans. regional language form, cherry tree, noun characteristic of domain/area - designate _ specialty a producer or vendor of cherries.) The client desires a female name and is most interested in the meaning of the name.

Originally submitted as Gules, on a bend argent a branch of cherry blossoms throughout proper., it was returned because the armory conflicts with rinidad and Tobago (reg. 09/1995 via Laurel), Gules, a bend sable fimbriated argent. There's one CD for changing the type and tincture of the tertiary.


Cécile de Brétigny (Tir Ysgithr): RELEASE OF JOINT BADGE

The name was registered September 2005. The client releases her portion of the jointly-registered badge, Per pale indented azure and argent, a wolf argent and a unicorn gules combatant, both gorged and chained Or., to Vallaulfr Rurikson for his sole ownership.


Donngal de Buchanan (Twin Moons): NEW BADGE: Vert, a raven volant bendwise within a bordure engrailed Or charged with the phrase “We do it because we can”.

The tincture of the phrase (sable) needs to be provided. [AmC]

This is probably based on the bird found on the 924 Anlaf Sihtricsson penny, which many people misidentify as a raven because on the back of the coin is a banner that folks want to associate with the infamous Raven Banner. The problem is that, in Viking Age art as well as real life, ravens have heavy, straight bills, while eagles are depicted with hooked beaks. As depicted, this must be an eagle or hawk. ...If you didn't specify this arrangement exactly I'd have stretched the text to read clockwise around the entire border, tops of the letters pointing out, beginning with "We" in dexter chief. This results in the unfortunately clunky blazon of: Vert, an eagle volant bendwise within a bordure engrailed Or charged in chief with the phrase "We do it because" and in base with "we can" sable.

This should be clear of: Vert, three bendlets and a swallow volant bendwise argent. [Caitilín inghean Chormaic, LOAR 12/2009]; Vert, an eagle Or and a bordure Or pellety. [Egil Haraldsson, LOAR 10/2003] and; Vert, a falcon displayed Or, charged upon the breast with a trefoil vert, within a bordure engrailed argent. [Ceinwen Haele Cynwyth, LOAR 11/1984] [Gs]


Edric the Unsteady (Tir Ysgithr): BLANKET PERMISSION TO CONFLICT (name and armories)


Erik the Relentless (Windale): BLANKET PERMISSION TO CONFLICT: Purpure chapé ployé, a standing seraph argent.

The name and device were registered March 2001. The client permits any future submitter to resgier armory that is at leat one countable sept different from his registered armory.


Jocelyn Payndeamours (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME

The Suffolk Feet of Fines (http://archive.org/details/cu31924029784992) dates <Robert de broc v. Jocelyn of All Saints in Cheventon> to 4-5 John (~1203-04). [AmC]


Johann der Becker von Aschersleben (Windale): NEW DEVICE: Vert, semy of annulets Or, three garbs one and two argent.

Perhaps an artists' note suggesting same-sized annulets? Appears to be clear. The closest I found are: Vert, three garbs argent. [Medb ingen Muiredaich, LOAR 09/2004]; Vert, in pale three garbs one and two and a stag's head cabossed proper maintaining and issuant from between the attires a Latin cross, a bordure Or. [Xena Baxter Wynthorpe, Reg LOAR 10/1981, Reblaz LOAR 11/2011] [Gs]

The artist takes note on the annulets. I knew I was going to take a beating for it *grin* [TW]

I'd probably use a quarter and a nickel as templates for the inner and outer lines of the annulets, if I had no compass or other similar tool. [Gs]

Lose the first comma. [AmC]


Raylene of the Whispering Woods (Tir Ysgithr): BLANKET PERMISSION TO CONFLICT (name and armory)


Sveinbiǫrn Hallbiǫrnson (BoA): NEW NAME

You certainly get modern names "Björnsson". OK. SMP http://www.sofi.se/5187 (under B, find Biorn, follow the link...) has ... Hmmm... can't copy and paste it. "BIORN, BIØRN, lat. Bero, Byæernerus, mn. ... Gen.: Biornar 1348 ... Biorns m. 1100-t., 1360 ... Biørns 1390 ..." (with a lot of extraneous stuff removed at the ellipses) So some form of "Biörnsson" should work at least in Old East Norse. Possibly Sveinbiørn Hallbiørnnson ??[DÞ]

At minimum you need a double "s" (-bi{ö,ø,ǫ}rnsson}[DÞ]

I would expect a genitive of <-biarnar> if the o-ogonek is present. Later forms in both Lind and Peterson do show a transition to a genitive of <biorns>. [Gs]

Probably, but if the submitter wants 'o' variants he should be able to have them. Just not 'o caudata' (since it's not nasalized it's NOT an 'o ogonek', even if some people use it that way). My gut feeling is the submitter is likely to prefer changing the type of 'o' than to change to an 'a' AND change the genitive. Isn't the "1100-t" in the SMP quote a date of c.1100? I'm not all that familiar with that source. If so, that's not MUCH 'later'. [DÞ]

Upon further consultation with the client, he'd prefer the byname Hallbiornsson (even if it is later and which we should be able to justify based on the later Biornsson) than Hallbjarnarson unless his first choice cannot be registered. It seems that the sound is more important to him. [MMM]


Victoria of the Vales of Barnsdale (Tir Ysgithr): AUGMENTATION RESUBMISSION from Laurel, August 2011

Or, an insect-winged naked woman passant, wings chased, azure, and as an augmentation on a canton sable in pale a coronet and a sunburst Or, clouded argent.

The name and device were registered March 1981. The client is a Viscountess of the Sun (12 April 1980) and has served as the Baroness of Tir Ysgithr (2 September 1995), allowing her to display a coronet. She received the Augmentation of Arms 9 January 1993.

The previous submission, Or, an insect-winged naked woman passant, wings chased, azure, and as an augmentation on a canton azure in pale a coronet and a sun in his glory within an orle Or., was returned for the augmentation being in conflict with device of AEthelinda Longa, Azure, in pale a seax fesswise inverted reversed and an escallop, within an orle Or; there is one CD for the change of type of primary charges, but as AEthelinda's device has more than two types of charges on the field, it is not simple and can not be cleared by substantial difference of the primary charge group using Section X.2 of the Rules for Submissions.



Thank you all for your continuing hard work for the Atenveldt College of Heralds and the people it serves!


Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

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