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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 28 June 2006, A.S. XL
LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt

Unto Their Royal Majesties Cosmo Craven and Mary; the Honourable Lord Seamus McDaid, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings of the New Year from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald!

 

This is the June 2006 internal Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. It precedes the external LoI that will contain the following submissions that are presented here, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry and consultation for names and armory: brickbat@nexiliscom.com. Please have comments or questions to me concerning this Letter by 15 July 2006.

 

Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too: atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com.

 

Consultation Table at Kingdom Arst and Sciences: I plan to run an Heraldic Consultation Table at Kingdom Arts and Science in Mons Tonitrus on 5 August. If you’re planning to attend the event and would like to lend an armorial or onomastics hand, it is always appreciated.

 

Heraldry Hut: The next Heraldry Hut will be Friday, 21 July, beginning at 7:30 PM.

 

Please consider the following submissions for the July 2006 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

 

Áine MacQuinn (Twin Moons): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom?

Per pale argent and Or, a mullet purpure charged with a triquetra per pale Or and argent.

Adminis-more-than-trivia! Although this is cited as a resubmission, I have no record of anyone with this name. No date on the device submission form is provided, suggesting when this might have been returned (it is checked that this is a Kingdom return). Some concerted digging around shows that this is a device resubmission for Áine O'Shaughnessy, who had both name and device returned by Laurel/SCA College of Arms (not the Kingdom/Atenveldt College of Heralds) in December 2005. Since the name was returned, a name resubmission has to accompany the device submission. The name resubmission is apparently Áine MacQuinn, although complete name submission forms (with appropriate documentation) were not included. We can check the device for conflict, but the submission will be held until completed name forms are received. Commenting heralds: please consider the name resubmission to be Áine MacQuinn

Áine is a Middle Irish Gaelic feminine given name, dated 1169 through 1468, according to “Dated Names Found in Ó Corráin & Maguire's Irish Names,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/ocm/ ). Pertinent commentary by the CoA for the name Ailleann Mac Quyn, registered September 2005: “Submitted as Ailleann Mac Quinn, the documentation for the patronymic strongly suggests that it is a modern form...it mixes an Irish Gaelic given name with an Anglicized byname... Reaney and Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames s.n. Quine, lists Luke Mac Quyn in 1403...” The documentation that was presented for Ailleann’s byname was as follows: “(Mac) Quin(n) is the Anglicized form of the Irish Gaelic Mac Cuinn (“son of Conn”), a surname found in Kerry (MacLysaght, 6th edition, p. 252).” A slight spelling modification to Áine Mac Quyn would still have the one step from period practice for mixing an Irish Gaelic element with an Anglicized element, but any issues with temporal disparity would be resolved.

The original device submission, Argent, a tree couped between in fess two brown dogs couchant respectant proper., was returned for conflict. This is a complete redesign.

 

Juan Alonso de la Vega: DEVICE and BADGE RESUBMISSIONS from Kingdom, November 2005

(device) Per bend sinister argent and sable, an anchor and a tankard counterchanged.

(badge) (fieldless) A tankard argent charged with an anchor sable.

The name was registered March 2006.

The original submissions, Sable, in pale a dagger inverted argent, the blade surmounted by a heart gules, and a tankard argent. and (fieldless) A tankard argent charged with a dagger inverted argent, the blade surmounted by a heart gules., were returned for problems with tincture and period style. The resubmissions have resolved all of those issues. In considering a tankard against a chalice: [There is a CD] for the very visible difference between a tankard and a chalice with its long stem and unique outline. (Brigid O'Farrell of Beckery, 9/95 p. 7) ].

 

Katerina O’Callaghan (Tir Ysgithr): NEW AUGMENTATION OF ARMS

Or, a fox's head contourny erased gules, crowned with a ducal coronet Or, a bordure embattled gules and as an augmentation of arms on a canton azure, a sun in his glory issuant from base or, within a bordure argent.

The name was registered September 1991; the original armory, Or, a fox's head contourny erased within a bordure embattled gules., was registered March 1992; and the augmentation was registered to the Kingdom of Atenveldt 1979. The lady is a Duchess of Atenveldt and entitled to display the ducal coronet, 5 September 1998.

 

Linnett Marie de Ryes (Twin Moons): NEW BADGE

(fieldless) An acorn winged Or.

The name was registered March 2002.

 

Mathghamhain MacAlpine (Tir Ysgithr): NEW AUGMENTATION OF ARMS

Purpure, between the tips of a pair of wings conjoined in lure bendwise abased argent a ducal coronet bendwise Or, in chief three hearts in fess sable, fimbriated argent and as an augmentation on a canton azure, a pall inverted embattled between two moons in their complement argent and a laurel wreath Or.

The name and the original armory, Purpure, a pair of wings conjoined in lure bendwise abased argent, in chief three hearts in fess sable, fimbriated argent., were registered January 1982. The arms of the Barony of Twin Moons, Azure, a pall inverted embattled between two moons in their complement argent and a laurel wreath Or., was registered January 1991. The gentleman is a Duke of Atenveldt and entitled to display the ducal coronet, 5 September 1998; he is also the founding baron of the Barony of Twin Moons, 20 June 1992..

The following appear in the June 2006 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

 

This month’s commentary is provided by Ari Ansson [AA], Aryanhwy merch Catmael [AmC], Helena de Agentoune [HdA], Knute Hvitabjörn [KH], Maridonna Benvenuti [MB] and Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy [MMM].

 

Aurelia Chyrsanthina Dalassene (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME CHANGE from Sorcha Flannagann

The name is Byzantine Greek. Aurelia is a feminine given name found in “Common Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the 6th and 7th Centuries,” Berret Chavez ( http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/byzantine/early_byz_names.html ). Chrysanthina is the feminization of the family name Chrysanthos, found in “ Byzantine seals, 1025-1261" ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/greek.shtml ); the same source shows the family name Dalassenos, and Dalassene is the feminine form of the name. The construction of the name is found in “Personal Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the Later Byzantine Era,” Berret Chavez ( http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/byzantine/structures.html#feminine_names ). Double family names occur as a matter of a woman maintaining her father’s last name and appending her husband’s last name to it upon marriage or a woman using both her father’s last name and as a middle name, a family name from either her mother or father’s genealogy; in either case, the family names would be feminized, and this is also shown in this paper.

The currently-registered name was registered June 2004. If the name change is approved, the client wishes to maintain Sorcha Flannagann as an alternate name. The client is most interested in the sound and language/culture of the name and wishes it to be authentic for Byzantine Greek. She will not accept major changes to the name.

 

Carras Sabran (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE: Per pall inverted purpure, sable and argent, two hemlock flowers argent seeded Or and a sheaf of three arrows inverted purpure.

I was going to point out that Or seeds on an argent flower is insufficient contrast, but the seeds are drawn on stems that move the seeds off of the argent and onto the sable/purpure background. Checking photographs (http://www.pbase.com/rsub8/image/44141793) of hemlock flowers shows them to be that way in nature. They are drawn stemmed. Do they need to be blazoned "two hemlock flowers stemmed argent seeded Or?" [AA]

Well, the short stemming is vert (which is acceptable, if not of high contrast with the field), and I could blazon it; however when a flower is blazoned as stemmed, it tends to have a much longer, significant stem. Thanks! for the URL demonstrating what a hemlock flower looks like – yes, the seeding appears to be on the tips of long stalks, and in the colored forms, those little “bulbs” you see are Or. [MMM]

[Alternate blazon:] Per pall inverted purpure, sable and argent, two hemlock flowers argent seeded Or and a sheaf of arrows inverted surmounted by a ribbon purpure. Since the ribbon is as long as the arrows, it's co-primary with them. That makes this slot-machine because the flowers, arrows and ribbon are all in the same charge group. Return for violating RfS VIII.1.a. [KH] I’d consider the ribbon, while a little on the extravagant side, artistic license more than anything else, particularly since it shares the same tincture as the arrows. [MMM]

 

Celestria de Braunston (Sundragon): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, October 2005: Per pale azure and sable, a pale between a natural dolphin hauriant contourny and a Catherine wheel argent.

A pale should be drawn much wider. Ordinaries should take up about 1/3rd of the field - as drawn it is maybe 1/8th. [AA]

The pale should be wider. [KH, AmC]

 

Ciar nic Eoghan (Windale): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per fess embattled argent and vert, a bee proper and a rose argent.

I concur with the suggestion of going with the earlier form Ciar inghean Eógain. Otherwise, this is a lovely name. [KT]

<nic> is a post-period contraction of <inghean mhic>, which was pronounced roughly 'nik' in later-period Scotland. With the patronym in the genitive case, <inghean mhic Eoghain> (earlier, <ingen meic Eogain) is a fine byname. I found no [device] conflicts. [AmC]

Consider Andrew Baird: Per fess vert and azure, a bee proper and a tree eradicated argent. Clear: change in field tincture, embattling, and the tree. [AA]

The arms are clear of Bryony Beehyrd, "Per fess embattled argent and vert, three bees passant guardant counterchanged,"with one CD for the number of charges, and another for changing half the type. [AmC]

A bee proper's argent wings lack adequate contrast with argent. Return for violating RfS VIII.2.b.i. [KH] This bothered me as well; I think it would be best to contact the client about this and see if she might consider a bee sable, banded Or, or something similar.. [MMM]

Having contacted the client, she’s fine with Ciar inghean Eógain and asks that the wings of the bee be Or. While not the best contrast against the argent field, they don’t disappear into the field any longer, and the bee could be considered a neutral charge, half-dark and half-light. Emelyn Gunnarsdóttir’s proper (“neutral”) bees were registered September 2001, Azure, six bees in annulo tails inward proper on a chief embattled Or a weaver's slea proper., with black bodies on the azure field; Brigid O'Neill the Limner’s proper bees registered June 2001, Gules, three bees in pall heads to center proper within a bordure embattled Or., with black bodies on a gules field; Andrew Baird’s proper bee in January 2003, Per fess vert and azure, a bee proper and a tree eradicated argent., with a black body on a vert field. [MMM]

 

Donwenna Dwn (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per chevron gules and sable, three walnuts in fess Or and a triskelion argent.

Good name! [KT]

[Alternate blazon:] Per chevron gules and sable, in pale three walnuts in fess Or and a triskelion argent. [KH]

 

Gawayn Langknyfe (Twin Moons): NEW NAME

The name is English. Gawayn is a masculine given name; this spelling, dated c. 1415, is found in “A List of 15th Century English Men's Names,” Arval Benicoeur and Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/agincourt/ ). The byname, spelled as Langknyf’, “long knife,” is found dated to 1332 in “"Misplaced" Names in Reaney & Wilson,” Jeanne Marie Lacroix (http://sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/misplacednames.htm ). This is very similar to documented bynames such as Langbridge and Langbain (Lang- names) and Longspey, “long sword,” and Longstaf, “long staff,” all from Reaney and Wilson and noted in the December 2001 LoAR for the registration of Angus Langaxe’s name submission. The slight spelling variation doesn’t seem implausible. The client is most interested in the language/culture of the name and wishes it to be authentic for the English language/culture; he will not accept major changes to the name.

 

Iosif Volchkov (Atenveldt): NEW NAME

Good name! [KT]

 

Livia Alexandra Severa (Atenveldt): NAME and DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, March 2005: Gyronny gules and ermine, a cobra coiled and erect affronty VERT.

I can’t find any documentation to support the name as submitted. Given the existence of Tiberius Alexander it might be possible to justify <Alexandera> as a cognomen, but that would require a substantial re-working of the rest of the name. My suggestion would be to go with the sublimely documentable <Livia Severa>. [KT]

What tincture is the cobra? Shouldn't it be facing "towards the camera" to be affronty? As drawn it is facing dexter. [AA]

The hood is affronty but the head is to dexter. “The differences between the two serpents [cobra coiled affronty vs. rattlesnake coiled to sinister] in position and type are so weak as to be virtually negligible. The two may be blazoned differently for canting or symbolic purposes, but are not significantly different visually.” (LoAR Aug 87, p. 10) (See also: LoAR 27 Sep 86, p. 10) Precedents - Alisoun, under Reptile - Snake [KH] While this is indeed the case, I think it’s acceptable, as it shows that the serpent is of the cobra variety with the hood expanded in its most recognizable position. Perhaps it ought to be noted in the blazon, however, that the head is to dexter, since, like most beasts with snouts or elongated noses, an affronty orientation often makes the identification of the beast less easy. [MMM]

[Consider] Yang the Nauseating: Sable, a snake coiled to strike voided Or.; Vincenzo di Calabria: Per pale gules and vert, a rattlesnake coiled to sinister, tail erect, argent.; and Achatius Holtsete: Per saltire argent and gules, a rattlesnake erect and coiled contourny sable., all have CDs field, possible CDs primary tincture. [KH] Since the cobra is vert, the CD for tincture is given. [MMM]

 

Ogedai Qara (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME

Good name! [KT]

 

Ólchobar Mac Óengusa (Tir Ysgithr): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, March 2006

Sable, a harp reversed Or strung argent, and on a chief Or two swords inverted in saltire sable.

The name was registered March 2006.

This was returned for the use of tenné (orange). The harp and the chief were intended to be Or but the color on the emblazons received by Laurel is clearly orange; tenné is not a registerable tincture. (It certainly looked like Or to me, since we do not register tenné...).

 

Rebecca de Estella y Mallorca (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Gules, a domestic cat couchant gardant and a chief argent.

(badge) Gules, a domestic cat couchant gardant and a bordure argent.

Juetta's "Jewish Women's Names in 13th to 15th Century Navarre" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/nav_intro.html) has <Rebeca> 1362, so this isn't unreasonable a given name for her choice of byname. For this construction, precedent from 10/1997 says: "The other two [of five four element names in a quick survey of the first 4000 names (A-C) in the sixth volume of the Catalogo (dating around 1580) use the modern y formation: Diego GarcÃa de Montalvo y Colindra and Miguel Jeronimo de Mendoza y Arquillada. [The name was returned.] (Constanzia Maria Morales Enzina d'Zamora, 10/97 p.11)" So this seems reasonable, though rare. [AmC]

Here's additional documentation for Mallorca, Palma being the capitol: Encyclopædia Britannica Article, Palma in full Palma De Mallorca, capital of the Balearic Islands comprising Baleares provincia and comunidad autónoma (“autonomous community”), Spain, in the western Mediterranean Sea. The city lies on the southwestern coast of the island of Majorca in the centre of the 10-mile- (16-kilometre-) wide Palma Bay. Little is known of Palma before 123 BC, when the Romans conquered Majorca, making the archipelago a Roman province. Attacked by the Vandals in the 5th century, it became part of the Byzantine Empire a century later. In the 8th century it fell to the Arabs, and in 1229 it was conquered by James I of Aragon. On his death it became independent but was again incorporated into Aragon by Peter IV in the 14th century. In 1469 it became part of the Spanish monarchy upon the marriage of Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. The old quarters of Palma have many notable homes built in the 16th and 18th centuries. Historic buildings include the Gothic cathedral (1230–1601); Bellver Castle (14th century), on the hill of the same name; La Lonja (early 15th century), the former exchange, now a museum; Almudaina Palace (restored in the 12th and 16th centuries), former residence of the Arab dynasty, and now the captain general's headquarters; the Consulate of the Sea (Consulado del Mar; 17th century); the bishop's palace (17th century); and the town hall (16th century), housing the archives of the old kingdom of Majorca. The modern city, with its fine buildings, promenades, and gardens, stretches along the coast for 7 miles (11 km). Palma's cultural facilities include a section of the University of Barcelona and art museums and galleries. The city's economy is varied, with tourism and the manufacture of furniture, footwear, and fabrics as the most important factors. Palma's many craftsmen produce embroidery, pottery, artistic glasswork and ironwork, palmetto and raffia basketwork, and olive woodcarving. Palma is linked to the mainland by frequent air and steamer services. Pop. (1991 prelim.) 296,754. To cite this page: "Palma." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2006. Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service. 5 June 2006 <http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9058135>. [MB]

(Device) GeneviÃ̈ve Frei: Gules, a fret and on a chief argent a domestic cat statant sable., changing primary charge from fret to cat, charged chief; Magy Blackmore: Azure, a cat sejant contourny and on a chief argent an oak tree proper., change in field tincture, charged chief (and difference in orientation/posture of cat); Sybelle Madeleine MacKee: Vert, a domestic cat sejant guardant and on a chief argent three estoiles azure., change in field tincture, charged chief (and difference in orientation/posture of cat). [AA]

Consider Stephanie of Garrow's Loch: Gyronny sable and Or, a natural panther couchant within a bordure argent., single CD for the field. Return for conflict [KH, AmC] The client has been consulted, and it appears that the slightly modified Gules, a domestic cat couchant gardant and a bordure embattled argent. resolves this conflict without running into any new ones. [MMM]

 

Ysabeau Bourbeau: BADGE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, March 2006

 (Fieldless) A bottle bendwise sinister argent entwined by an eel azure.

The name was registered March 2006.

This badge was returned for a redraw, as the eel was not identifiable and in fact appears to be a white belt: a white belt is reserved to knights. Also, changing the tincture of the eel was considered not sufficient to allow registration, as that would still leave the problem of the eel being unidentifiable as an eel. The tinctures have been reversed so that the white belt is no longer an issue, and the eel has been redrawn in the manner seen in Parker’s A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry and the Pictorial Dictionary, the latter mentioned that an eel is distinguished from a serpent (many of which find themselves wrapped around other charges in SCA armory) by its fins and tail.

 

Ysabel de Rouen (Twin Moons): NEW JOINT HOUSEHOLD NAME “House Blade and Bone” and NEW HOUSEHOLD BADGE

Per pale purpure and sable, in saltire a bone argent surmounting a sword Or.

 

The following are returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds for further work, June 2006:

 

Aethelfaeda Bosch (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per fess sable and checky azure and argent, in chief an hourglass fesswise argent sanded Or.

The temporal and regional disparity in the name is too much, as stated. Also, we may want to find something for Aethelfaeda showing that it wasn't a unique name given to a ruler's daughter. [AA]

Separately the elements of the name are fine. <Aethelfaeda> with various spellings including the one desired by the submitter can be found in “Anglo-Saxon Women’s Names from Royal Charters” by Marieke van de Dal which can be found at: http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/marieke/anglosaxonfem/

There hasn’t been a specific ruling on Dutch/Old English as a combination. However, Dutch and English has been ruled a “weirdness”(Toen Fitswilliam 02-02). In the past a distinction has been made between pre-12th century Dutch and post-12th century Dutch, suggesting that the elements of this name are on different sides of a linguistic line. Unless Bosch can be documented pre-12th century I don’t think that the name as submitted is registerable. I’d suggest either selecting a Anglo-Saxon byname or a Dutch given name. I don’t have any concrete suggestions for a Anglo-Saxon byname, except to go with the Latinate <X filia Y> pattern, there are a number of male names that sound sort of similar to Bosch in the Medival Names Archive. As far as the Dutch given name goes there are a few names that start with A, but none that sound very close to <Aethelfaeda>. My advice would be for the submitter to go the all-Anglo-Saxon route, because I think that Aethelfaeda is a amazingly cool sounding name. [KT]

The standard OE form of the name is <Æthelflæd> (Note the extra <l> after the <f>). Marieke's "Anglo-Saxon Women's Names from Royal Charters" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/marieke/anglosaxonfem/) has:

Atelfled                   S-1483, 946x951; English                                      Athelfled                 S-1483, 946x951; English

Athelfleð                 S-1483, 946x951; English                                      Æthelflede                S-127, 787; Latin, Mercia

Æðelflæd                   S-223, 884x901; English                                        Æðelfled                   S-221, 901; Latin, Mercia

Æþælfledæ                 S-1484, 966x975; Latin                                          Æþelflæd                   S-223, 884x901; English

Æþelfled                   S-224, c.800 for ?914; Latin                                   Æþelfledam              S-367, 903; Latin

Egelfled                  S-1495, 10th or 11th c.; English                             Ethelfled                 S-513, 944x946; Latin

Ethelflede               S-513, 944x946; Latin                                            Ethelfledam            S-371, 904 for 903; Latin

(The ones ending in 'm' are inflective - accusative, most likely).

<Ae> is not a reasonable period alternate for <Æ>: "Submitted as Aelric Blackthorn, the submitter requested authenticity for 12th C England and accepted all changes. The name Aelric is a misrepresentation of the Old English Ælric; Ae is not a valid spelling for Æ; when such names are translated to Middle English, the Æ typically appears as either A, Ai, or E." [LoAR 11/2004]

All of these are indeed too early to be combine with a later-period Dutch surname. If she's wedded to the surname, I recommend that she look at the names at "Names in the Low Lands before 1150: Female Names"

(http://www.keesn.nl/names/en4_list_f.htm) and "Dutch Womens' Names before 1100" (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1336/name1100vr.html) and pick a name from there; if she's wedded to the given name, I recommend <Æþælfledæ> or <Æðelflæd> as closest to her submitted spelling, and offer <Bosse> as a surname. R&W s.n. Boss has <filius Bosse> 1210 (it'd be <filia Bosse> for a woman) and just plain <Bosse> 1179. [AmC]

[Alternate blazon:] Per fess sable and checky azure and argent, an hourglass fesswise per

fess argent and Or framed argent. The blazon "sanded Or" can't reproduce the emblazon because the exact

amount of sand is unblazonable. Also, the amount of sand in any real hourglass fills less than half of the total interior volume. This has possible contrast and identifiability issues because the entire charge isn't per fess argent and Or. If the frame is considered to be half of the charge, and not simply artistic detailing, this is half argent and half divided between argent and Or, which violates RfS VIII.2. [KH]

Oh wait. That's *not* a squashed hourglass. I swear, I simply cannot see this as an hour glass fesswise. It looks like an hour glass palewise, which has been stomped on. Perhaps colored in it looks better. This is clear of Orin the Late (reg. 07/1986 via Atenveldt), "Per fess azure and sable, an hourglass fesswise per fess argent and Or and an annulet argent," with one CD for the field and another for the number of primaries. That was the closest I found. [AmC]

 

Osric Maximilian Vom Schwarzwald (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Or, on a pall inverted sable between two dragons combattant and a third dormant gules, a pall inverted Or.

I had no luck finding <Osric> as a German name. Given that German and Old English is not a registerable combination I don’t have a lot of hope for the name as submitted, unless Osric shows up in later English records. The easiest fix is to simply drop <Osric>. The submitter might also consider going with <Oswald> or <Otto> both of which can be easily documented for and are compatible with the rest of the name. [KT]

<Vom> should not be capitalized. It's neither more or less accurate than <von dem>, as <vom> is just a contracted form of <von dem>. I haven't been able to find any examples of <Osric> or anything beginning <Osr-> in German (there is German <Oswalt> or <Oswald>, which can be found in my "German Names from Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, 1441" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/rottweil1441.html), but that would be a major change. Old English/German combinations were ruled unregisterable on the 01/2003 LoAR. I don't believe the Shakespeare character is important enough for it to be registerable via our current rules on literary names. [AmC]

I was curious about the "on a pall inverted...a pall inverted" construction. Apparently it has been done that way before: Consider "Aoibheall Dylon The following device associated with this name was registered in February of 1991 (via Atlantia): Sable, upon a pall inverted between two dragons rampant and a crescent argent, a pall inverted vert." Looks fine, if the pall on a pall is allowable. [AA] I think the blazon might look odd because there’s no good term for the dimutive for a pall/pall inverted, as opposed to the bend and bendlet, bend sinister and scarp, fess and bar, and pale and pallet. It’s just one of those things! [MMM]

RETURNED for name construction. [MMM]

 

The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arns, March 2006:

 

Caroline Marie de Fontenailles and Elsbeth von Sonnenthal. Household name Domus Montis et Solaris.

This name is to be associated with their badge, Per chevron azure and gules, a demi-sun issuant from the line of division Or and a bordure ermine, registered July 2005.

Daniel de la Trompette d'Or. Device. Argent, on a bend embattled between two griffins segreant azure a straight trumpet inverted Or.

Gabriel Rise. Name.

The submitter requested an authentic German name. Bahlow/Gentry, German Names s.n. Riese, gives a Hans Rise in 1380, making this a fully 14th C German name.

Hrefna Gandalfsdottir. Name.

The submitter requested a name authentic to 9th C Norse culture. While all elements of this name are Old Norse, we do not have examples of either element explicitly dated to the 9th C. Therefore, we are unable to say whether this name is authentic for her time period.

Johnathan Crusadene Whitewolf the Younger. Badge. Argent, a clenched gauntlet aversant gules, a bordure rayonny quarterly sable and gules.

This does not conflict with the Red Hand of Ulster, Argent, a sinister hand appaumy gules, protected as an important non-SCA augmentation for Great Britain. The SCA grants no difference between a hand and gauntlet, no difference between a dexter hand/gauntlet and a sinister hand/gauntlet, and no difference for appaumy vs. aversant. The first two are due to period examples of arms being drawn both ways; the third is due to aversant being an SCA-ism. Hitherto, we have likewise granted no difference between an open hand and a closed or clenched hand. After reviewing period examples, we have decided to grant a CD between the two. This overturns existing precedents to the contrary, such as: "[a dexter gauntlet clenched appaumy vs. a dexter gauntlet appaumy] The clenching is an artistic detail which does not contribute difference. (William MacGregor, May 1998 p.22)". With the second CD for the bordure, this is clear of the Red Hand of Ulster. This submission raised the issue of when the Red Hand of Ulster is protected. We need to distinguish between conflict and presumption here: The use of Argent, a sinister hand appaumy gules is presumptuous (and disallowed) when displayed in a manner that makes it appear to be an augmentation. However, the independent armory, Argent, a sinister hand appaumy gules, is protected from conflict as belonging to Great Britain.

Johnny Rooke. Device. Per fess gules and sable, an octopus and two demi-skeletons respectant arms extended and crossed in saltire argent.

Juan Alonso de la Vega. Name.

Kateryn Treningham. Name and device. Purpure, three dragonflies in fess and a chief wavy Or.

Nice 15th C English name!

Kateryn Treningham. Badge. (Fieldless) A dragonfly per pale purpure and Or.

Korina Kievskaia. Name and device. Per pall inverted vert, gules and argent, two sheafs of arrows argent and a winged brunette woman proper, winged sable and vested gules.

Marcus Christian and Jehanne Chrestienne. Joint badge. Per saltire purpure and argent, an annulet counterchanged.

Merwenna Stepesoft. Name and device. Vert, a leg reversed proper issuant from a cloud in chief argent.

Mikel of Perth. Device. Per fess embattled azure and argent, four arrows in fess bendwise inverted argent and a lion rampant sable.

Ólchobar Mac Óengusa. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Submitted as Ólchobar Mac Aonghais, as submitted the name is two steps from period practice. First, it mixes Middle Gaelic and Early Modern Gaelic. Second, the earliest date we were able to find for the patronymic Aonghais was in a 1527 entry in Annála Connacht; this means there is a more than 500 year gap between the dates for the given name and the byname. We have changed the name to Ólchobar Mac Óengusa in order to register it. Mac Óengusa is a Middle Gaelic form of this name found in the Book of Leinster and an entry from 703 in The Annals of Ulster (both at the CELT site, http://www.ucc.ie/celt).

Rauðbj{o,}rn inn yngri. Name and device. Per chevron raguly azure ermined Or and Or, in base a bear dormant contourny gules.

Shawn Robert of Kilkenny. Badge. (Fieldless) Two demi-wyverns combatant azure and argent issuant from a brown nest proper.

Umm al-Ghazala Jami'a bint Shirin al-Armaniyya. Name change from Umm al-Ghazala Jami'a bint Kamil al-Armani.

Submitted as Umm al-Ghazala Jami'a bint Asl{a-}n Kh{a-}t{u-}n al-Armani, the name has several problems. The first is an issue of presumption. Specifically, the patronymic, bint Asl{a-}n Kh{a-}t{u-}n appears to be a claim to be a member of the Persian royal family. Palimpsest notes:

Now for the next issue: the actual element <bint Asl{a-}n Kh{a-}t{u-}n>. In "Persian Feminine Names from the Safavid Period" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) & Ursula Georges (Ursula Whitcher) (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/persian.html) <Kh{a-}t{u-}n> is glossed as "royal woman;" they seem to suggest that it is not part of her name, any more than princess or queen would be. More important, <Asl{a-}n> is often used as a byname for the royal family of Persia; a woman who I think is the same person is given as <Arslán Khátún Khadíja> at http://erga.packhum.org/persian/pf?file=90001012&ct=43. That suggests that <Arslan> is a byname, and her name the relatively standard Arabic <Khadija>.

The submitter noted that if bint Asl{a-}n Kh{a-}t{u-}n was not registerable, she would accept bint Sh{i-}r{i-}n. This raised the issue of patronymics based on a feminine name in Arabic; this practice was ruled unregisterable in April 1994 because no examples had been found. Palimpsest provides some: First, the easy one: the use of matronymics in Arabic. Matronymics are certainly found in Arabic, though they're not found in formal nasabs but only in nasab-like family names. If there's only one generation, these names are indistinguishable, but I've never found one in a multi-generational nasab. Schimmel (1989:9) gives some historical figures that used a metronymic byname:

- one son of `Ali ibn Abi Talib (d. 661) is Muhammad ibn al-Hanifiyya 'son of the woman from the Hanifa tribe'

- Marwan ibn al-Hakam (d. 684) is also known as Ibn al-Zarqa 'son of the blue-eyed woman'

- the 13th c. Seljuk historian Ibn Bibi is named for his mother Bibi al-munajjima

She also cites many other metronymics without dates, but from context they certainly appear to be period. Most of her examples seem to be derived from an article "Matronymics among Arab Poets" by Giorgio Levi della Vida in the Journal of the American Oriental Society in 1942 (Vol 62, pp 156-171), which includes mainly period names. Some are literal matronymics, others use indirect constructions such as <sibt> 'grandson through the maternal line.'

Roded (1994: page number unclear in my notes) says: "In about a dozen cases a son is ascribed to his mother rather than his father. Most frequently, the son is referred to as "ibn al-Saykha"...

The Jews living in Cairo in the 10th to 12th century (as recorded in Goitein 1978) also used some metronymics in an Arabic style. The following family names or literal metronymics are all derived from feminine bynames, and are found recorded in Arabic script in names that are :

Abu- Sahl ibn Kammu-na 'son of the cumin seed (f)'

ibn al-Naghira 'son of the hot tempered woman'

Ibn al-Zuqilliya (probably Ibn al-S.iquilliyya 'son of the Sicilian woman')

Bint al-z.a-miya 'daughter of the thirsty (frustrated) woman'

Some of these family names even use women's given names or bynames; some found in al-Andalus include <Ibn `Aa'isha>, <Ibn Aamina>, <Ibn Faa{t.}ima>, as well as <Ibn al-Labaana> ('son of the milkmaid') and <ibn al-Bay{d.}aa'> ('son of the white woman'). (from Marin 2000).

While this data does not support the widespread use of matronymics in Arabic, it certainly rises to the level of registerability, though it may well carry the same sort of weirdness that matronymics in Gaelic currently carry. Therefore, bint Sh{i-}r{i-}n (or in this case, bint Shirin, which is a transcription of this name consistent with the transcription forms used in the rest of the name), is a registerable name element.

However, this raises a third issue of grammar. The final byname, al-Armani is masculine; when it was part of a patronymic, this was grammatically correct. However, to be part of a matronymic, it needs to be feminized. The appropriate feminine form of this byname is al-Armaniyya. There was some question whether al-Armani could be registered in this part of the name citing the grandfather clause. It cannot. The grandfather clause allows continued registration of a registered element, provided the new name does not introduce rules violations already present in the original name. In this case, the switch from a patronymic to a matronymic introduces a violation of a rule of grammar which was not present in the original registration.

We have changed the name to Umm al-Ghazala Jami'a bint Shirin al-Armaniyya in order to register it. This change in the byname removes the issue of presumption and fixes the grammar. The change from Sh{i-}r{i-}n to Shirin places the name in a consistent transcription system.

Her old name, Umm al-Ghazala Jami'a bint Kamil al-Armani, is released.

Ysabeau Bourbeau. Name and device (see RETURNS for badge). Azure, a bottle bendwise sinister between three eels naiant in triangle argent.

Submitted as Ysabeau Bourbeau, the submitter requested authenticity for an unspecified language, presumably French, and accepted minor changes. The byname was documented as an undated variant of an undated byname. However, the source is one where we usually accept the spellings as period unless the text indicates that they are modern. Therefore, while the name is registerable, it is not authentic. Aryanhwy merch Catmael, "Late Period French Surnames (used by women)" dates de Bourbon to 1503 and 1515; Morlet, Dictionnaire etymologique des Noms de Famille, the source from which the byname was documented, shows Bourbon as a placename derived from the same route. For an authentic French name, we suggest Ysabeau de Bourbon. We would make this change, but the two names are too different in appearance to be a minor change. Please see the Cover Letter for a discussion on period bottles.

 

The following were returned by the College of Arms for further work, March 2006:

 

Ólchobar Mac Óengusa. Device. Sable, a harp reversed tenné strung argent, and on a chief tenné two swords inverted in saltire sable.

This is returned for the use of tenné (orange). The harp and the chief were intended to be Or but the color on the emblazons received by Laurel is clearly orange; tenné is not a registerable tincture.

Ysabeau Bourbeau. Badge. (Fieldless) A bottle bendwise sinister azure entwined by an eel argent.

This badge is returned for a redraw. The eel is not identifiable and in fact appears to be a white belt. A white belt is reserved to knights. Without evidence that the submitter is a knight, and thus entitled to display a white belt, this must be returned. Changing the tincture of the eel is not sufficient to allow registration, as that would still leave the problem of the eel being unidentifiable as an eel.

 

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