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Unto Their Royal Majesties Morgan and Livia; Master Seamus McDaid, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald!


This is the May 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. It precedes the external Letter of Intent that will contain the following submissions that are presented here, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry and consultation for names and armory: Please have comments or questions to me concerning this Letter by 15 May 2007.

Kingdom Arts and Sciences Collegium: there will be an Heraldic Consultation Table at the Collegium in the Barony of Sundragon, 2 June, and submissions will be accepted there. It will probably be run the better part of the morning and all afternoon. If you’d like to drop by (to schmooze or to help with the consultations), to send some of your clients in that direction, etc., etc., please do so! The more, the merrier!

Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too:

Heraldry Hut : There will be no Heraldry Hut meeting in June. Depending on events and such, there may not be a July one, either.

Recent Actions by the College of Arms: Those submissions that appear in the 31 October 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Intent are included in the February 2007 Letter of Acceptance and Return; the final outcome of those submissions are found at the end of this report.

Please consider the following submissions for the JUNE 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Brian the Pious (Granite Mountain): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Sable, a tiger rampant Or marked sable, a bordure wavy Or.

Brian is the client’s legal given name. This spelling is also found as an English masculine given name in 1273 (Withycombe, 3rd edition, p. 53). Pious is seen in 1602 and 1603 in the plays Hamlet and Measure for Measure, respectively, according to the COED. It has been previously registered as recently as December 2003, to Engelbert the Pious. The client desires a masculine name and is most interested in the sound of the name; he will not accept major changes.

Dubchobhlaigh inghean Eion O’ hEalaighthe (Atenveldt Highlands): NAME RESUBMISSION from Laurel, December 2006

The client’s original name submission, Aoife inghean Eoin gabha, was returned because the name Aoife is not registerable, as cited in the September 2002 Cover Letter. The name is Irish Gaelic. Dubhchobhlaigh is an Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) feminine given name found in “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Dubchoblaig / Dubhchobhlaigh,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan

( ). Eoin is an Early Moden Irish Gaelic masculine name, found in the same source ( ). O'hEalaighthe is found in Irish Geneaology online

( ), an Irish family name Anglicized to Healy. The client desires a feminine name, is most interested in the meaning and in the language/culture of the name, and will not accept major changes.

Marianna Bartolomeo of Rosa (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Sable, a snowy owl close contourny argent and a bordure ermine.

The name is Italian. Marianna is a feminine given name found in “Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427,” Arval Benicoeur ( ). Bartolomeo is shown as a patronymic in “Italian Renaissance Men's Names,” Ferrante LaVolpe ( ). Rosa is cited in the same source as Marianna, but it is shown as a feminine given name in that article, not as a locative, as seems to be the case here. If we can’t find Rosa as an Italian place name and the client wishes to maintain it as an element of her name, she might consider Marianna Rosa Bartolomeo.

The client desires a feminine name and is most interested in the language/culture of the name.

Although the client has provided information to demonastrate that the snowy owl is a rather ubiquitous species, occurring in both the Old and New Worlds, it is blazoned here as argent, which might more simply result in its being blazoned as an owl...argent.

Rosalinda Gertrude Kesselheim (Sundragon): NEW BADGE

Or, three lozenges in pale conjoined between two peacock feathers vert, each lozenge charged with a human eye argent, irised gules .

The name was registered December 1999.

The following appear in the May 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Aurelia Chrysanthina Dalassene (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE CHANGE: Per chevron argent and purpure, two roses purpure, barbed and seeded proper, and a dromon contourny argent, a bordure sable semy of Maltese crosses argent.

This would be the first registration of a dromon. It needs to be documented. [AmC, KH]

The dromon became the main type of ship after the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire, and both opposing sides of Byzantium and the Arab world used such a ship. The dromon was first seen about the 6th C. A. D. and was used in different variants up to the 12th C. A Byzantine manuscript dated by the year of 850 contains an engraving with the dromon of that period. Her construction resembles that of the bireme with two rows of rowers. She had two masts with Latin sails on them. But the first vessels of such a type had only one row of rowers and they looked like a liburna with a single mast. Later on two- and three-masted dromons appeared. Their length was varied from 30 to 50 m, the width - from 6 to 7 m. The ships had sharp forms and were sufficiently fast. The crew consisted of from 100 to 300 people depending on dimensions of a ship. The keel ended by an underwater ram just like for the bireme. The main weapons on the dromon were catapults, which threw fiery shells at a great distance. On the bow and the stern parts of the vessel there were raised decks for bowmen. ( ). The manuscript depiction cited above can be seen at .

Bellana Nic Morgan (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, on a bend cotised between two death’s heads argent, a rose gules, slipped and leaved vert.

The client has written permission to conflict with the badge registered to Merrick O Dowling, Sable, a bend cotised between two death's heads argent., registered August 2006. Merrick also provides an heraldic will, naming the client as the heir to this piece of armory.

Krossa's article "Scottish Gaelic Given Names: For Men" gives which is very close to the submitter’s desired spelling. However, the same article dates to the 12th century. Barring later citations for some variant of in Scotland, I'd be concerned about whether it was used late enough to be used in combination with , especially given that although registerable, is apparently a slightly post-period spelling. It might be safer, from the point of view of registerability, and would certainly be better from a authenticity standpoint, to change the byname to the documentable. I'm also more than a little concerned about the registerability of the name as a whole. In the past both Anglicized Irish and Gaelic were ruled to be unregisterable in combination with Italian. Italian is registerable with Scots, but this is clearly a Gaelic name, not a Scots one. The closest that I can come to the desired name is which is found in "A List of Feminine Personal Names in Scottish Records" by Talan Gwynek. I can find citations for and as a English name in Talan's article "Feminine Names found in A Dictionary of English Surnames" but I don't think that we could get from this citation to or even . Doing so would involve creating the pattern and frankly I'm not optimistic about that being registerable. On the other hand, double surnames and middle names are registerable in English, and mixing English and Welsh carries no weirdness. If the submitter is willing to drop the nic, Bella Anna Morgan would be quite registerable as a mixed English/Welsh name. If the submitter desires a Scottish name, I would suggest as being the closest thing to her name that is likely to be registerable. [KT] The client is amenable to dropping the nic if needed (and that seems to be a given), and will allow changes to the given name as long as Morgan stands unchanged. [MMM]

No conflicts found with the arms. (And yes, a heraldic will should be listed as a separate entry on the ELoI - see the Drachenwald ELoI of 02/2007 for an example.) [AmC]

Bláth ingehan Uí Laoghaire (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME

The name is Irish Gaelic. Bláth is a feminine given name, that of two virgin saints (Ó Corráin and Maguire, Irish Names, p. 32). Inghean Uí Laughoaire, “feminine descendant of the Leary clan” (MacLysaght, The Surnames of Ireland, 6th edition, p. 192, s.n. (O) Leary). The client desires a female name and is most interested in the meaning (that she has a reference to Leary in her name) and language/culture (Irish).

Typo: <inghean>, not <ingehan>. MacLysaght's Gaelic forms are modern and so the name is not adequately documented. Additionally, the form in the documentation is incorrect. MacLysaght gives <{O'} Laoghaire> as the Modern Gaelic form of <O Leary>, not <{O'} Laughoaire>. The CELT archive ( cites <Duineachaidh, mac Laoghaire> in Four Masters 924, entry 4; Four Masters was written in Early Modern Gaelic, so this should be sufficient to demonstrated <Laoghaire> as a plausible Early Modern Gaelic form. [AmC]

Çynara del Mar (Twin Moons): CHANGE OF HOLDING NAME from Çynara of Twin Moons, Laurel, January 2007

The name was returned because no documentation was submitted and none found to suggest that the byname de la Mar was ever modified by an adjective; the element Azul could not be dropped because the client did not accept major changes. She has dropped the Azul. Her armory was registered under the holding name Çynara of Twin Moons.

Daibhídh mac Dubhghaill of Glasgow (Twin Moons): NAME and DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, January 2007

Quarterly argent and azure, a tower and in chief two roundels, all counterchanged.

The original name submission, Daibhídh mac Dubhghaill, was returned for aural conflict with David MacDougall, registered December 1987. The client doesn’t wish to add a clan/’grandfather’ element to his name, although locative bynames are vanishingly rare in both Irish and Scots Gaelic. (Although being vanishingly rare, the client would like to have the locative rendered into Gaelic if possible.) English/Gaelic name mixes are one step from period practice. Glasgow, Scotland, is situated on the River Clyde; by the late 12th C, it was considered an important settlement, and in 1175, Bishop Jocelyn secured a charter from King William making Glasgow a burgh of barony; in 1238 work began on Glasgow Cathedral, symbolizing its importance in matters of religion ( ).

This device, with the same blazon, was returned for redraw to more accurately reproduce the emblazon from the blazon (the tower is now the primary charge, and the roundels are now clearly secondaries.

Julianna Wilkins (Sundragon): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, April 2007: Argent, in pale an owl displayed gules and a linden tree eradicated proper, a bordure per saltire vert and purpure..

The original submission, Argent, in pale an owl displayed proper and a tilia tree eradicated proper, a bordure purpure., was returned for clarification of the bird’s species, as there are many owls in the world. Unfortunately, many of them, when viewed from their undersides, are very light or white in color, which provides poor contrast to the argent field. Upon consultation with the client, she much prefers a “brown” owl rather than making it an heraldic tincture, if at all possible (goshdarn evolutionary advantage!). Unfortunately, the only species we could find that was uniformly dark is the brown wood owl (Strix leptogrammica), a type found in India, China and SE Asia, so this is one step from period practice. The non-European species plus the non-default posture of the owl would count for two steps from period practice (nuts). She has decided to make the owl an heraldic tincture to avoid a return based on these anomalies. In addition, she’s fine with blazoning the tree as a linden tree, which is the most common heraldic desription of this type of tree. The bordure, originally purpure, was modified, as multiple conflicts also presented themselves, using either a bordure purpure or a bordure vert. [MMM]

Thomas DeGuy Bassard (Twin Moons): BADGE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, January 2007

(Fieldless) In pale a vulture close sable perched on a covered tankard azure charged with a compass star of sixteen points argent.

The original submission, (Fieldless) In pale a vulture close sable perched on a covered tankard azure charged with a compass star of sixteen points argent., was returned for being two steps from period practice, the first for the use of a compass star (which is an SCA-compatible charge), the second for using a New World bird that is not found in period heraldry heraldry - this bird is clearly a variant of the American birds named "vultures" rather than the unrelated European birds named vultures. The new emblazon depicts the Eurasian black vulture, Aegypius monachus, which has a wide distribution, from Spain and southern Europe, all the way across the Middle East into far eastern Asia. There is some feather “tufting” on the back of these birds heads, rather like a crew cut, instead of the naked or very smooth profile presented by the New World species

( and ).

Viola verch Hwyl:(Brymstone): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, April 2007

Per fess purpure and argent, a rabbit courant contourny ermine and a deandlion plant vert, blossomed Or.

The name appears in the 25 April 2007 Atenveldt Letter of Intent. Her original submission, Sable, a rabbit courant contourny ermine and in base a dandelion Or, slipped and leaved vert., was returned for poor contrast of the leaves and stems of the dandelion with the purpure field. Placing it on an argent field reverses this problem, with the Or blossoms on the argent field, but this is the client’s preferred alternative, and I believe that the plant is as recognizable for its leaves (with the name dandelion possibly derived from the characteristic serrated leaves from the corruption of the French dent de lion, “lion’s tooth” ) as it is for its rather ambiguous, multi-petalled blossoms ( ).

William Malcolmesson (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, in pale a unicorn’s head contourny couped argent and a collar, its chain broken, Or.

William is a masculine given name and comes from the Old German Willihelm; it is found with this spelling in Scotland in 896, in Black, p. 816. Malcolmesson is dated to 1296 in Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, p. 295, s.n. Malcolmson. The client wishes a masculine name and is most interested in the meaning of the name; he will not accept major changes to the name.

This conflicts with <William Malcolm>, reg. 12/1995 via the East. [AmC]

The name was found to conflict with William Malcom, registered December 1995. Upon further consultation with the client, he wishes to add the locative of Berwickshire to his name submission. Berwickshire is one of the ancient counties of Scotland, located in southeastern Scotland ( ). The border town of Berwick gave rise to a locative surname (as de Berwic 1295, 1328; de Beryuc 1320; and de Berwyic 1317), according to Reaney and Wilson, p. 71, s.n. Berwick. [MMM]

The following are returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds for further work, May 2007:

Bláth inghean Uí Laoghaire: NEW DEVICE: Argent, a sun in glory azure between three triquetras inverted sable.

Vs. Héléna du Brouillard de Matin, "Argent, a sun in splendor azure within a bordure engrailed sable," there's a CD for the type and one for the number of secondaries. However, this conflicts with Ivan von Kleist, "Argent, a compass star azure between three ships sailing to sinister sable," with no CD for a compass star vs. a sun, and so just one for changing the type of secondaries. [AmC] Dang! [MMM]

The sun should be larger. The triquetras are close enough to primary's size to raise identifiability issues. [KH]

Device RETURNED for conflict.

The following were registered by the SCA College of Arms, February 2007:

Ameera al-Sarrakha. Name and device. Per bend sinister azure and vert, a peacock feather bendwise sinister and a seahorse argent.

Angharad of Tir Ysgithr. Holding name and device (see PENDS for name). Per bend sinister vert and Or, a doe statant counterchanged.

Submitted under the name Angharad Ewan.

Aziza al-Labu'a bint Ibrahim ibn Rashid al-Rahhala. Name and device (see RETURNS for badge). Per fess argent and sable, on a fess gules a lion couchant, in base a decrescent argent.

Submitted as Azizah al-Labu'a bint Ibrahim ibn Rashid al-Rahhala, this name appears to use two different transcription systems in the same name. To be registerable, a single transcription system must be used. In this case, ah (in Azizah) and a (in al-Rahhala) have been used to represent the same letter. We have changed the name to Aziza al-Labu'a bint Ibrahim ibn Rashid al-Rahhala in order to register it.

Ceara MacTagan. Device. Purpure, three plumeria blossoms in pale between flaunches argent.

Blazoned on the LoI as frangipani blossoms, according to Brachet there is no conclusive evidence as to the source of that name. We have reblazoned the flowers as plumeria blossoms to aid in their reproducibility. Plumeria blossoms will conflict with cinquefoils, roses, and other similar flowers.

Erik of Rockwell. Device. Per pale azure and sable, a sword inverted proper, bat-winged and within a bordure Or.

Erik of Rockwell. Badge. (Fieldless) A sword inverted proper, bat-winged Or.

Flora Tay. Name reconsideration from Florie Tay.

No evidence was given and none found that the spelling Flora was used as a woman's given name in Scotland in period. However, Albion notes, "my "Jewish Given Names Found in Les Noms Des Israélites en France" (<>) dates <Flora> to the 13th century, in Coblence." Therefore, this name is registerable as a mixture of German and Scots. Her old name, Florie Tay, is released.

Gabriel Rene Antoine du Renard. Reblazon of device. Azure, a fox passant argent maintaining in its sinister forepaw a spiral hunting horn palewise reversed, slung over its shoulder, and a chief embattled Or.

Registered in October 1981 with the blazon Azure, a fox passant argent grasping in its sinister forepaw a hunting horn, bell to sinister, and a chief embattled Or, we have clarified the type and position of the horn.

Gabriel Rene Antoine du Renard. Reblazon of badge. Azure, a fox passant argent maintaining in its dexter forepaw a spiral hunting horn palewise reversed, slung over its shoulder, and a chief embattled Or.

Registered in August 1979 with the blazon Azure, a fox passant argent grasping in its dexter forepaw a hunting horn, bell to sinister, and a chief embattled or, it is currently listed in the O&A as a device with the note "? should have been released". There is no heraldic difference between this and the device registered in October 1981 (reblazoned above), though there is a blazonable difference. While we agree that this most likely should have been released, we are reluctant to do so at this late date without Gabriel's permission. We have therefore re-designated it as a badge and reblazoned it to clarify the type and position of the horn.

Mederic de Chastelerault. Name change from Mederic de Castro Araldi.

Submitted as Mederic de Chatellerault, the submitter requested an authentic 13th C French name. While we have no 13th C example of this name that are not in Latin, we do have a 16th C form. Charles Estienne, La guide des chemins de France, written in the later half of the 16th C, shows the spelling Chastelerault. This is expected, as the originally submitted form contained an â, which usually indicates a missing consonant following the vowel. We have changed the name to Mederic de Chastelerault in order to register it. His old name, Mederic de Castro Araldi, is released.

Osric of Atenveldt. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Or, a pall inverted voided sable between two dragons combatant and a third dormant gules.

Submitted under the name Osric of Blakewode.

Robert of Tir Ysgithr. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Quarterly per fess rayonny azure and argent.

Nice armory. Submitted under the name Robert Lyons.

Sechen Doghshin-Unegen. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Shanda MacNeil. Name change from holding name Shalon of Atenveldt.

Shanda is her legal given name.

Sythe Blackwolfe. Badge. Per saltire argent and gules, in pale a dragon couchant contourny sable and a beacon sable flammant proper, a bordure counterermine.

As originally submitted, the flames were drawn as Or fimbriated gules; this style of flames proper has long been disallowed. When informed of this fact, the Atenveldt College of Heralds sent a new emblazon with acceptable flames proper - alternating tongues of gules and Or. A beacon's flame is essentially a maintained charge; its tincture cannot contribute to difference. As the exact depiction of the flames does not affect conflict checking, we are accepting the new emblazon rather than pending the submission.

Thorarna i Hiartt. Name change from holding name Jennifer of Atenveldt.

Zedena of Tir Ysgithr. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Per pale vert and argent, two demi-foxes statant respectant issuant from the flanks counterchanged

Submitted under the name Zedena Chovat se mazaný.


The following were returned by the SCA College of Arms for further work, February 2007:


Aylwin Wyllowe. Badge. (Fieldless) Three triquetras one and two conjoined vert.

This badge is returned for violating our long-standing ban on Celtic knotwork ("Knotwork is not, by and large, heraldic." Karina of the Far West, July, 1979). Individual triquetras are acceptable charges, but when conjoined as they are here, the interlacing combines visually into a single, complex knotwork pattern that is neither identifiable nor particularly heraldic.

Aziza al-Labu'a bint Ibrahim ibn Rashid al-Rahhala. Badge. (Fieldless) A lion couchant argent charged upon the shoulder with a decrescent gules.

This badge was withdrawn by the submitter.

Osric of Blakwode. Name.

This name is two steps from period practice. First, it combines the Old English Osric with the Middle English Blakwode. Second, there is a more than 300 year gap between the latest date we have found for Osric (950 according to charter S 552a in Sean Miller's "Anglo-Saxon Charters" ( and the earliest date we found a form of the byname (Ekwall, The Oxford Dictionary of English Placenames, has Blakwod in 1280). While the name does appear in Shakespeare's Hamlet, this play was not published until after 1600, nor was evidence found that it was performed before that 1600. This makes the name Osric unregisterable as a literary name from that play. His armory was registered under the holding name Osric of Atenveldt.

Robert Lyons. Name.

Conflict with Robert Delion, registered July, 2000. Lion and Lyons are too close in sound and appearance; in this case, the preposition de does not count for difference. His device was registered under the holding name Robert of Tir Ysgithr.

Sechen Doghshin-Unegen. Device. Per fess sable and azure, a mermaid per fess Or and argent, in chief two pitchers fesswise, their bases to center, each distilling a gout Or, a bordure erminois.

This device is returned for excessive complexity in violation of RfS VIII.1 (Armorial Simplicity). This has a complexity count of nine with five tinctures (sable, azure, Or, argent, erminois) and four charges (mermaid, pitchers, gouts, bordure). The design is not a classic heraldic motif that might let us override the rule of thumb that requires a complexity count of eight or less.

Zedena Chovat se mazaný. Name.

No documentation was submitted and none found to support a Czech surname consisting of multiple words. Further, no documentation was submitted and none found to suggest that a surname with a literal meaning "sly" or "like a fox" (the intended meaning of the submitted surname) is consistent with Czech naming practice. Barring such documentation, this byname is not registerable. There is evidence that Czech family names were formed based on animal names. If the submitter is interested in a Czech surname meaning "little fox" or, possibly, "vixen", we suggest Lyschka. Walraven van Nijmegen notes: Polish for "vixen" is [lisica] or [liszka]. Schwarz ([Schwarz, Ernst. Sudetendeutsche Familiennamen des 15. und 16. Jahrhunderts])has a header for [Lischka], with a 1555 citation for "Petrus Lyschka" from Bohemia.

There was some question about whether the name Zedena was a period Czech name. While it is clear that some form of this name was used in Bohemian in period, we do not know whether this is such a form. It is, however, found in Germany (in Saxony, to be precise) in the early 16th C. A book published in Leipzig in 1503 bears the title Das buch, geistlicher gnaden, offenbarunge wunderliches unde beschaulichen lebens, der heiligenn jungfrawen, Mechtildis und Gertrudis ... uff begere und anregunge, der hochgebornen furstin und frawen, Zedena, herczogin czu Sachssen ... vordeutzscht vnd gedruckt (essentially "The book of the spiritual graces and remarkable revelations, the tranquil lives of the holy maidens Mechtilde and Gertrude -- (in honor and dedicated to) the highborn princess and lady, Zedana, Duchess of Saxony.").

Her device was registered under the holding name Zedena of Tir Ysgithr.

The following was pended by the SCA College of Arms for further consideration, February 2007:


Angharad Ewan. Name.

The submitter requested an authentic 10th C name; this was not mentioned on the LoI. We are pending this name to give the commenters a chance to address this request. The following documentation was included with this submission:

Angharad is a Welsh feminine given name; it is found in "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names," Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (<>), where it appears in the medieval source as Angharat. The spelling desired by the client is found in "Snapshot of a Cantref: The Names and Naming Practices in a Mawddwy Court Roll of 1415-16," Heather Rose Jones

(<>). Ewain is a masculine Scots given name, first seen in 1164, and an example of it used as a patronymic is demonstrated with Douenaldus Ewain a. 1165 (Black, p. 249, s.n. Ewan); the spelling Ewan itself is not dated. It is most often seen in a patronymic form preceded by Mac-. "Patrick McEwyn was provost of Wygtoun, 1331" is found in Black, p. 491, s.n. MACEWAN. The client is most interested in the language/culture of the name, and it means "Angharad daughter of Ewan" and that it be feminine.

Her device was registered under the holding name Angharad of Tir Ysgithr.




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