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Unto Their Royal Majesties Morgan and Elizabeth; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

Please have commentary to me on the proposed submissions for the December Letter of Intent by 25 December 2018. Thank you!

Please consider the following submissions for the December 2018 Atenveldt LoI:

Batu Kharhvaach (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW NAME
The name is Mongolian. Batu is a male name, “loyal, true, confident” (“Mongolian Naming Practices,” Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, The byname is intended to mean “archer.” “Archer” is shown in the Glosbe English-Mongolian dictionary as харваач ( and it is transliterated as kharhvaach in Google Translate ( While my glossary in An Introduction to Classical (Literary) Mongolian, by Grønbech and Krueger, is very limited, the protheme qarbu-, “to shoot with a bow and arrow,” suggests that this an acceptable form of the art and one who practices it (in addition to another transliteration). The client desires a male name and is most interested in the meaning and language/culture (Mongolian) of the name.

Euphemia Kathrine Marie filia Dougal (Tir Ysgithr): NAME and DEVICE RESUBMISSIONS from Atenveldt, March 2014

Argent, three roses purpure barbed vert and seeded Or, issuant from base a trimount vert.

The previous submission, Cerridwen ingen Dubhghall, was returned for use of an unregisterable name (Cerridwen). Because the name was returned, the original device, was returned as well.
Euphemia is a female given name dated to 1305 (“Feminine Given Names in
A Dictionary of English Surnames: Euphemia,” Talan Gwynek, Kathrine is a 16th century English female name found in the Family Search Historical Records as Kathrine Sketterell; Female; Marriage; 28 Feb 1593; Saint Lawrence Pountney, London, London, England; Batch: M02163-1 (
Marie is a female given name dated to 1292 (possibly a genitive form) in Talan Gwynek ( Filia is a Latin particle indicating “daughter of”. Dougal is a male given name, originally from the Old Irish dubhgall, “black stranger,” which later became a common name (this is undated, as it was found in Withycombe, 3rd edition, p. 38). The elements are scattered all over period, with a major issue being that in the College of Arms, while a double given name is allowed in late English names, triple given name do not appear to be (Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation by Language Group,

The client desires a female name; she will not accept Major Changes to the name.

The original device submission, Argent, three double roses purpure and argent barbed and seeded proper and issuant from base a mountain vert. There was no problem with conflict with this original design, and I am trying to contact the client (which I'll likely have to do with the name resubmission) to see if she'd prefer the original submission. I include that here.

Kim Senggum (BoA): NAME RESUBMISSION from the holding name William of Atenveldt, Laurel, August 2018

The client's previous name submission, Kim Samguk, was returned for the following reasons: Although Kim is well-attested as a Korean family name, we found no evidence to support the construction of the given name Samguk. The term Samguk in Korean means "three kingdoms" and is a poetical term used to refer to Korea in 13th century Korean writings. We were unable to find evidence of Koreans using such terms as name elements. We were also unable to construct Samguk from period Korean elements. Accordingly, this name must be returned. The submitter's device is registered under the holding name William of Atenveldt.” The client's registered device is Sable, a natural tiger rampant Or striped sable, on a chief Or a bow sable.

The client wishes to use a Korean clan name with a Mongolian given name. Current naming practices allow the combination of Mongolian element with Arabic, Hungarian/Romanian, Persian, Russian/East Slavic and Turkish (Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes, The client asks that Korean be added to that group based on the following history of the Mongols and the Koreans:

After the death of the Keraites leader Ong Khan to Chingis Khan's emerging Mongol Empire in 1203, the Keriat leader Nilqa Senggum led his followers into Western Xia. (The Keraites were one of the five dominant Turco-Mongol tribal confederations (khanates) in the Altai-Sayan region during the 12th century.) Part of this attack was on Chingis Khan, and this failed as well as the major assault in the area, and Nilqa Senggum was expelled from the Western Xia territory. There were several invasions by the Mongol Empire against Korea, 1231 to 1259, during which time the Mongols annexed the northern areas of the Korean peninsula into its Empire and its people became vassals to the Mongols. (;;

Kim, "gold," is a family name of a group that rose to power and became the rulers of Silla for seven centuries ( The name is not considered presumptuous, as the clan was so huge that it remains the most common family name in Korea today.

Rayyan al-Rashid (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, a simurgh close and a demi-sun issuant from base Or eclipsed sable.

The name is hopefully Arabic. The client is Lebanese-American by birth and desired a Lebanese/Persian/Arabic name, something similar to his legal given name (Ryan). In the Hadith (a collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad), there is a gate of Paradise called the Rayyan Gate, one that only those who regularly fast may enter. In modern times, Al Rayyan is a city in Qatar, and Reyyn and Rayan are the given names of several Saudi, Tunisian, and Lebanese-American athletes. However, we're at a loss to find Rayyan/Rayan/Reyan as a masculine given name/'ism and are looking for help!
Al-Rashid is a laqab, a combination of words into a byname relating to nature, a descriptive, or of some admirable quality the person had (or would like to have); it means “the Rightly-guided” (“Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices,” Da'ud ibn Auda, The client desires a male name and is most interested in the souns and language/culture of the name (Lebanese). He will accept spelling variations to the given name, particularly if a period form can be found.

Rummana Arora (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Purpure, a unicorn's head couped and on a chief argent three hearts gules.

Rummana is a female given name; Rummana Hussain (1952–1999) was a modern Muslim artist from India ( The name comes from the Urdu, meaning either a plum-purple color or a pomegranate; in the Quran Chapter 55, The Beneficent: “Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny? Therein are fruits and palms and pomegranates.” The pomegranate is used as a food and a dye in the Middle East and India, mking it a valuable “bounty of the Lord,” much like a daughter. Again, help it sought for the name.

As far as finding this as an Arabic name, Rumayla is a feminine 'ism ("Son of the Hot-Tempered Woman": Women's Names in Arabic Bynames, Juliana de Luna,

Arora is a Hindu and Sikh name based on the name of a mercantile community of the Panjab. It is derived from a place name, Aror (now known as Rohri, in Sind, Pakistan). According to legend the Aroras are of Kshatriya stock, but denied their Kshatriya origin in order to escape persecution by Paras Ram, calling themselves Aur, which means ‘someone else’ in Hindi and Panjabi. (

The client desires a female name and is most interested in the meaning and language/culture of the name (Urdu).

The following submissions appear in the November 2018 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Gunni Blóðøx (Atenveldt/Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, an axe inverted winged and headed argent, hafted Or, charged upon the axe-head with two gouttes de sang.

The drops used the prohibited non-period teardrop; Orle Herald provided a wonderful reemblazon, and the client agreed to it.

Lisette du Lac (Atenveldt/TY): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, a blonde melusine proper between three fleur-de-lys argent.

The fleurs appeared somewhat dismembered; again, Orled provided a lovely reemblazon, and the client agrees to it.

The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, September 2018:

Cecily de la Warde. Reblazon of badge. Azure, a vegetable lamb argent, flowered Or and fructed of sheep argent.
Blazoned when registered in June 2011 as Azure, a vegetable lamb argent, flowered Or and fructed argent, we are clarifying that the only the sheep are argent; the blossoms are Or.
Kharington Fraser. Name and device. Checky argent and sable, a cross gules cotised Or.
Kharington was documented in the Letter of Intent as the submitter's legal given name. However, the submitter does not need to rely on the Legal Name Allowance because Kharington is a plausible variant spelling of the attested English surname Charington.
Leo of Atenveldt. Holding name and device (see PENDS for name). Per bend argent and gules, a lion queue-fourchy and three triquetrae counterchanged.
Submitted under the name Leo Hyrulea.
Patience Winter. Name and device. Argent, a compass star sable, on a chief azure five quill pens argent.
Nice late 16th century English name! The use of a compass star is a step from period practice.

The following was corrected by the CoA from December 1987:

Catrin of Llanbadarn. Name correction from Catrin of Llanbadern.

When her name was registered, the LoAR misspelled her byname.

The following submission was pended by the CoA until its February 2019 meetings:

Leo Hyrulea. Name.

Submitted as Leo Hyrulea _, the submitter's legal name is Leo Hyrulea [surname]. Section IIIA10 of the Admin Handbook states: No name will be registered to a submitter if it is identical to a name used by the submitter for purposes of identification outside of a Society context. This includes legal names, common use names, trademarks, and other items registered with mundane authorities that serve to identify an individual or group.
By precedent, the combination of a legal given name and legal middle name, in that order, is considered identical to a name used by the submitter outside of the Society and cannot be registered: The submitter's legal name is Mari Alexander [surname]. Therefore, this submission contains the submitter's first two names in the same order as in her legal name. A similar submission was recently returned: The submission consists of the given names, in order, of the submitter. As this is one of the possible common use names, we have to return this submission for conflict against the submitter herself, protected under section III.A.9 of the Administrative Handbook. [Mary Amanda, 09/00, R-Artemisia]
Therefore, just as Mari [surname] would be conflict with her legal name, so the submitted Mari Alexander conflicts with her with her legal name. [Mari Alexander, 9/2001 LoAR, R-West]
This precedent was not overturned by SENA. It was upheld as recently as February 2015. [Antoinette Marie, 2/2015 LoAR, R-Atenveldt]
However, a number of heralds at the Pelican decision meeting argued that the existing precedent is too restrictive. Therefore, we are pending this name for discussion of whether we should continue to preclude submitters from registering the combination of their legal given and middle names as their SCA names.
The submitter's device is registered under the holding name Leo of Atenveldt.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald

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