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Unto Their Royal Majesties Morgan and Livia; Lord Tymothy Smythson, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

This is the November Atenveldt Letter of Presentation; it precedes the Letter of Intent with submissions considered for the next Letter of Intent. Please have commentary to me by 25 December 2013. Thank you!

Heraldry Hut: There was no Heraldry Hut meeting in November (it would've been the evening before Aten University, and it was a lot more fun meeting a number of new local heralds there!!). The next Heraldry Hut will be Friday, 20 December, beginning at 7:30 PM. Please contact me for directions or if you have questions.

College of Arms News: While I'd remind you that the that the SCA College of Arms has changed paperwork requirements, things are changing even more. I'll pass on the information as it becomes nice and solid. (And yes, the change is good!)

Please consider the following submissions for the December 2013 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Aulus Valerius (Sundragon): NEW NAME CHANGE, from Aidan Macpherson

The currently-registered name was registered August 2001. If the name change is approved, the old name is to be released.

The new name is Latin/Roman. Aulus is one of the “few” praenomen, and Valerius is a masculine nomen; both are found in Legio XX--The Twentieth Legion: Roman Names ( The third element of the classic Roman name, the cognomen, was not universal until about the first century BC, hence a “simple” two-element name like Gaius Marius (this is also cited in the Legio XX names article). The client desires a male name, and is most interested in the meaning and the language/culture of the name. He will not Major changes to the name (He wants the first and second elements of the name as is; he is willing a accept a third element if needed. There doesn't seem to be an issue with SCA conflict).

Howard the Strange (Sundragon): NEW NAME

The name is English. The surname Howard is documented as a given name, Howard Hallsey, with a christening date of 1562, Batch Number C04697-2 ( Le Strange is documented as a byname, Anne Le Strange, with a marriage date of 1600, Batch M00142-1 ( The client requests that he be allowed to register “the Strange” under SCA PN1.B2C, the lingua anglica form of the name; a given + byname is an acceptable naming format under SENA Appendix A. The client desires a male name and will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.

Jacqueline de Bretaigne (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per fess azure and argent, three doves volant in fess argent and a lily gules seeded Or.

The name is French. Jacqueline is the client's legal given name. It is also found with this particular spelling in "Names from Lallaing 1384-1600,” Domhnall na Moicheirghe in the section "Names from Lallaing 1384-1600: Feminine Given Names," dated 1407-1593

( ). de Bretaigne is found in 1292 as one of two spellings for a locative identifying an individual from Brittany, most likely someone who no longer lives there (Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 3264,, for the names found in Geraud, Hercule, _Paris sous Philippe-le-Bel: d'apre/s des

documents originaux et notamment d'apre/s un manuscript contenant Le Ro^le de la taille impose/e sur les habitants de Paris en 1292_ (Paris: Crapelet, 1837), pp. 104:2, 162:2, 171:1, 174:1, 175:1, 177:1,2). The client is most interested in the language/culture of the name (French). She would like a female name and it authentic in language/culture for 13th-14th C Norman/French; she will not accept Major changes to the name.

With their somewhat split tails, I wonder if these might be blazoned as swallows (the client specifically wants doves), or that the rather small passerine birds can simply be blazoned as doves to please the client (the tails are not exclusively forked into two, like one would see with a true swallow, but instead has three “points”). The tincture will be done by marker as the submission is forwarded to Laurel.

The following submissions appear in the November 2013 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Commentary is provided by Alys Mackyntoich [AM], Aryanhwy merch Catmael [AmC], Brenna Lowri o Ruthin [BLoR], Gawain of Miskbridge [GoM], Michel von Schiltach [MvS].

Benedetta Amadei (Sundragon): NEW NAME, DEVICE AND BADGE

(device) Per pale and per chevron vert and argent, two Tau crosses and a horse rampant counterchanged.

(badge) (Fieldless) The base of a Tau cross vert charged with a goutte d'eau.

Reblazon: "(Fieldless) A tau cross vert charged in base with a goutte d'eau". [AmC]

Cristina Aurelia Vitelli (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Argent, a hummingbird hovering vert between three crosses bottony fitchy gules, a bordure azure.

Dugan Rushton (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per chevron azure and sable, a chevron gules fimbriated between three mullets of six points argent and a bear statant Or.

<Dugan> is also an early 17th cen. English surname, which can be used as a given name by precedent. [Alton of Grimfells, 4/2010 LoAR, A-East]. Johan Dugan; Female; Marriage; 29 Jun 1601; St Peter's, Hereford, Hereford, England; Batch: M13713-1 [AM]

Duncan Aaron of Windermere (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Gules, on a plate a Maltese cross sable, and on a chief argent three hearts gules.

There's no need for permission to conflict; <Simon> and <Duncan> don't conflict. However, with a letter attesting to the relationship, Duncan can use <Aaron of Windermere> without any further documentation.[AM]

The Maltese cross is throughout. No conflict found. [BLoR]

Iosif Volkov (Sundragon): NEW DEVICE CHANGE: Per saltire azure and bendy argent and gules, a thunderbolt within an orle Or.

This was changed in mid-commentary by the client, to Azure, chaussé paly gules and argent, a lightning bolt palewise Or.

Sigrún Jöfursdóttir (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Papellony azure and Or, a heart gules charged with a polypus Or.

Reblazon: Papellony azure and Or, within a heart gules a polypus Or. [MvS]

The charge is on the heart, not within it. [AmC]

My bad. Papellony azure and Or, on a heart gules a polypus Or. [MvS]

Valdisa Álarsdóttir (Sundragon): HOUSEHOLD NAME RESUBMISSION, “Flory House,” from Laurel, July 2013

The pattern of <House X> is not documentable in English. For household names based on surnames, we have <X House> and <House of X> examples. Since the submitted name follows the former, it's registerable. [AmC]

Venetia Painter (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Or, a phoenix gules between two paint brushes palewise sable and charged with a lantern argent.

Pretty name! No conflicts found. [AmC]
Blazon fu: "Or, on a phoenix gules between two paint brushes palewise sable, a lantern argent." [GoM]

The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, September 2013:

Felipe Cuervo. Household name Nave el Fénix de Oro.

Submitted as House de Fénix del Oro, the submitter documented a late period pattern of naming Spanish ships after heraldic charges (though saint's names were more common). Thus, a Spanish ship could be named "the Golden Phoenix." However, to do so, this name needs several small modifications. First, the correct Spanish is de Oro "of gold" not del Oro "of the gold." We have changed del to de in order to register the name. We note that the one example using a term for gold in this data uses dorado, though other heraldic descriptions from the same period use de oro and dorado both.

Second, the designator House was not used to describe ships, though at least one ship used Casa as part of what we would call the descriptive element of the name. Thus, we have to use an appropriate word for a period ship. The sources from which these names are drawn do not use the generic word barco, but rather specific terms like urca "hulk," galeón "galleon," and patache, a smaller ship. The generic term nave is also used; as this is closest in meaning to the term barco the submitter suggested, we have changed the designator to that term in order to register the name. The other ship types documented in the Armada fleet would be registerable as well.

Finally, the Spanish ship names do not include de between the designator and the substantive element. Instead, the dated forms are things like La urca El Unicornio dorado. Thus we need to drop the article de and add the article el in order to match the period exemplars and register the name.

Finnr Eiríksson. Device. Per pale sable and vert, a drakkar argent and in chief four plates each charged with a broad arrow sable.

Gryffin de Verd. Name change from holding name Uilliam of Sundragon.

Submitted as Gryffin du Verd, the byname was hypothesized as a construction from the documented place name Sainct Pierre du Verd. However, there is no evidence of French locative bynames derived from the second half of place names. Luckily, Negre Toponymie générale de la France, Volume 1 dates Verd to 1557 s.n. Vers. Thus, de Verd can be registered as a locative byname. We have changed the name to that form in order to register it.

Guillaume Viau. Name.

Nice 13th century French name!

Isolde Monroe. Device. Azure, an open book and on a chief argent two fleurs-de-lys azure.

Mirabelle Papillon. Name and device. Argent, a natural seahorse purpure within an orle of seven mullets of seven points vert.

Submitted as Mirabelle la Papillon, no evidence could be found that la was ever used with the word Papillon before 1650. As the byname is found without an article or with the masculine article, either is registerable. We have dropped the article in order to register the name. Noire Licorne found Mirabelle as a feminine literary name in gray period romances, including Amours diverses, divisées en dix histoires by Antoine de Nerveze published in 1611 ( Thus, it can be registered.

Rós inghean Uí Ghallchobhair. Name and device. Argent, two cartouches voided and interlaced in saltire sable, an orle gules.

Vincetta Tee of Greyhold. Name and device. Vert, a natural leopard's head erased argent spotted sable, a chief argent.

Vincetta is the submitter's legal middle name; it is a given name by type and thus can be used as a given name in a submission.

The following have been returned by the College of Arms for further work, September 2013: NONE!

The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, October 2013:

Akastos Theodorou. Name and device. Or, a calamarie inverted sable and a bordure parted bordurewise indented argent and sable.

Submitted as Akastos Theodoros, the byname is not properly constructed. The father's name needs to be in the genitive (possessive) form, which is Theodorou. We have changed the name to that form in order to register the name.

Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as a polypus, the pointed head of this charge led most commenters to identify it as a calamarie instead.

We have blazoned this period treatment of partitioning a bordure along an interior line as bordure parted bordurewise in the past. The outermost/uppermost tincture is blazoned first, and then the innermost tincture. It may not be the most elegant blazon, but it suffices.

Dalfina Lacarra de Navarra. Device. Azure, a bend wavy cotised between an arrow fesswise reversed and a ram rampant argent.

Ered Sûl, Barony of. Order name Order of the Golden Tower of Ered Sûl and badge. Azure, on a mountain of three peaks vert, fimbriated and snow-capped argent, a tower Or.

The charge of a mountain of three peaks vert, fimbriated and snow-capped argent is grandfathered to this group.

Flore de le Court. Name and device. Argent semy of ladybugs proper, a fleur-de-lys azure.

Fleur Delacour, a relatively minor character in the Harry Potter books and movies, is not important enough to protect. Thus, we do not need to consider whether the two names are different enough in sound; the submitted name does not presume identity with a protected person and can be registered. Please advise the submitter to draw the ladybugs with larger spots, to aid in their identification.

Guillaume Viau. Device. Azure, a mullet voided and interlaced Or between five swords in annulo hilts to center argent.

Morgann Mac Duibh Dara. Name and device. Vert, a lightning bolt bendwise, on a chief argent two acorns slipped and leaved sable.

Submitted as Morgann MacDara, MacDara is a modern spelling. The late 16th to early 17th century forms of the name are M'Dary and M'Darey (from Woulfe s.n. Mac Dáire); the Gaelic period spelling is mac Daire. The submitter also enquired about a patronymic derived from the name Dubh Dara. A late period Anglicized form is M'Dwdara (Woulfe s.n. Mac Dhubhdara), while the period Gaelic forms of the byname are Mac Duibh Dara or Mac Duibhdara. Any of these forms is registerable. The submitter indicated that he preferred the Gaelic Mac Duibh Dara. We have changed the name to that form in order to register the name and meet the submitter's request.

There is a step from period practice for the use of a lightning bolt not as part of a thunderbolt.

Tiberius Nautius Josephus Africanus. Name and device. Or, a bat-winged monkey rampant chained purpure.

The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work, October 2013:

Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Badge for events and activities for thrown weapons. Argent, two axes crossed in saltire surmounted by a spear and on a chief gules a dagger argent.

Since all thrown weapons events and activities fall under the auspices of the marshallate, this badge would de facto be a badge for the thrown weapons marshals. We do not register badges for officers or deputy officers if a kingdom or corporate level badge exist for the office. Precedent says:

[Badge for Thrown Weapons Deputy] This badge is for a deputy for the marshallate in charge of thrown weapons. Precedent is mixed about whether deputies to major offices may have Kingdom badges assigned to them, or whether they must use a corporate level badge. The Sovereigns of Arms and Laurel Clerk discussed the issue, and Laurel determined the following: A combat marshal must be quickly identifiable on the field during inter-kingdom wars. Thus, it is important that the badges for marshals should be the same throughout the Society. Such badges should therefore be registered at the corporate level, rather than the kingdom level. This is currently the case for the Equestrian Marshallate, whose badge was registered at the Society level as Sable, two tilting lances in saltire and in chief a chamfron Or. [An Tir, Kingdom of, 02/02, R-An Tir]

This ruling was upheld in another return of a badge for a thrown weapons marshal for Trimaris in February 2006.

Thank you all for your continuing hard work for the Atenveldt College of Heralds and the people of Atenveldt!

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

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