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Unto Their Royal Majesties Ivan and Ian'ka; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

Please have commentary to me on the proposed submissions for the October Letter of Intent by 20 October 2018. Thank you!

Please consider the following submissions for the October 2018 Atenveldt LoI:

Hadda Modirfoeda Snorrisdottir (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Purpure, in pale a roundel and and gout, a bordure argent semy of cats sejant purpure.

The name is Old Norse. Hadda is said to be a female form of Hadr; the giantess daugher of Scadi (Dictionary of Norman (sic) Mythology, 1993, This link goes nowhere. The Viking Answer Lady demonstrates Haddr, Haddi originally as a by-name, "man with abundant hair," with a few instances are found in Norway, and the form Hadde is found in Denmark and Sweden. ( Hadde appears in Geirr Bassi. p. 10. It doesn't seem likely that a male given name could be feminized (as is often the case in languages of Latin origin) just by adding a terminal -a. Also bear in mind that unless documented as a name used by a human in period, the names of gods, giants, and othe non-human beings cannot be registered in the College of Arms.

Modirfoeda is a nickname combining modir (mother) and foeda (from the Snorra Edda and Volisora (sic), “to feed, read, bring up”). The University of Texas Linguistics Research Center: “nicknames were very common in Old Norse.” This is the extent of the documentation provided, aside from the VAL citation for Haddr. The correct form for mother is móðir, mōðir, môðir, with the letter ð, not d ( I can't even guess how one would compound two elements for the nickname.

Snorrisdottir, “the daughter of Snorri Bjornson” (I'm guessing this refers to Snorri Bjornsson, the name registered in November 2014. The correct form of the patronymic is -i > -a, so Snorradóttir, either with or without the diacritical, via Geirr Bassi. The Old Norse Name.

The client is most interested in the language/culture of the name (none specified, but the guess is Old Norse.

I have no idea what the “gout” is; period charges have a distinctive wavy tail (to the extent that our “modern” teardrop forms are no longer allowed). Can this be blazoned as another charge altogether?

For whatever reason, the submission will have to be redrawn; in addition to being drawn on a shield shape that isn't used by the College of Arms, it was pasted on an obsolete form as well (the old form has been disallowed since January 2017).

I've asked several heralds if the “gout” on the device is an acceptable type of gout, and the consensus is that it is not.

The following submissions appear in the September 2018 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Commentary provided by Etienne Le Mons (Sea Stag), ffride wlffsdotter, Gunnvor silfraharr (Orle), Kolosvari Arpadne Julia, Michael Gerard Curtememoire.

Adrienne Noël de Lorraine (Granite Mountain): NEW DEVICE: Or, a dragon vert maintaining a wooden tankard proper and a dumbeg sable.
There was some discussion on whether the forelegs holding the charges should be specifically included in the blazon, but I chose to blazon the charge that is chiefmost (the tankard) first. I could be wrong.

Áine inghean Uí Raghallaigh (Mons Tonitrus): NEW DEVICE
Per chevron inverted argent and Or, a chevron inverted purpure surmounted by a dragon sejant vert between three arrows purpure, vert and azure.

The name was registered May 2018 (why this doesn't appears in the Armorial is anyone's guess).

There is a SFPP for depicting three elements in a charge group in three different tinctures.

Franz Weiher (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per fess sable and azure, a compass rose Or between three crosses formy argent.

There was some discussion that the surname as written out in a period record might be showing a long -s, rather than an -h- in Weiher.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire notes for Niall Marescal's armorial submission, "Please advise the submitter that while the rays of a compass rose may overlap the outer ring, they should not extend beyond it, with the exception of the north mark," He believes this was an artist's note, and that the item was returned otherwise for a different reason.

Hlaðgerðr Arnfriðardóttir: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per chevron inverted vert and argent, a chickadee contourny Or and an iris blossom azure slipped vert..

Submitted originally as Lagertha Arnafrí ðsdottir, there were several name issues which were addressed (read, came to the rescue!) by Gunnvor Orle and ffride wlffsdotter. Upon consultation with the client, she is happy to have the name submitted as Hlaðgerðr Arnfriðardóttir.

For Hlaðgerðr, Gunnvor comments “Saxo Grammaticus' Gesta Danorum Book IX has a Latin <Lathgertha> ( dex.htm -- or, since OSCAR insists on breaking the link). This almost certainly reflects an Old Norse <*Hlaðgerðr>. ffride coorborates this: “Lind col. 550 sn. Hlaðgerðr makes the same connection between "Hlaðgerðr a Hlaðeyjum" and Saxo's "Lathgertha."”

Arnfríðr is an ON female given name (Viking Names found in Landnámabók, Aryanhwy merch Catmael. The metronymic for a woman is formed with

-ðr → ðardóttir A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names, Aryanhwy merch Catmael,

The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound and language/culture of the name. She asks that it be make authentic for 9th-10th C. Old Norse.

There were also several issues with the device. Upon further consultation with the client, the line of division was corrected/redrawn and the tincture of the iris specified. She's also fine with making the iris blue and the slip/stem vert. The grey-headed chickadee, or Siberian tit, is indeed an Old World bird (found in Scandinavia and northern Asia, as well as across central Alaska (, but while chickadees and tits are related in the tit family Paridae, the critters are usually called chickadees in the New World and tits in the Old World. She likes the appearance of the little round bird, regardless of what it's finally registered as.

Hrafnkel Sveinsson (Ered Sul): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per pale argent and sable, a calamarie and in base two anchors all counterchanged.

Gunnvor comments that “A number of modern translations of Hrafnkels saga omit the second "l". In Old Norse, it's <Hrafnkell> in the nominative case. E. H. Lind. Norsk-Isländska Dopnamn ock Fingerade Namn från Medeltiden (Uppsala: AQ.-B.Lundequistska Bokhandeln. 1849-1931. col. 566 s.n. <Hrafnkell> has no nominative examples that drop the second "l".”

Katrina von Neumann (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Gules, on a bend wavy azure fimbriated and cotised wavy three mullets palewise argent.

The name is German. Katrina Burkmanss born July 12, 1573 in Auenheim, Offenburg (Batch C93267-1 ).
Martin Neumann born November 11, 1594 in Ulm, Wurttemberg, Germany (Batch C0044-7,
The client's consulting herald, Lyn of Whitewolfe, Twin Palm Pursuivant, includes with the submission:

“Client would also like to add the prefix “von” before her surname. The direc translation can mean either “from”, as in come from the town of, or “descendent from”, as in the family of . Modern genealogy experts state that there is not definites listing of the aristocratic familes who used the prefix as shown below:
“According to the Institut Deutsche Adelsforschung (Institute of German Aristocratic Research), (
(Please note that this is an online translation of a page written in German and is subsequently sometimes awkwardly written)
“The word "von" in front of a name does not necessarily mean that the family in question is a former German noble family. Especially in Schleswig-Holstein, in Lower Saxony and in Westphalia, where most of the families listed below come from, there were many genders of non-noble origin who bore a "from" in the name, but were not noble. Their "von" comes from the original denominations of origin and has only rarely become an aristocratic sign (eg in the v.Doemming, v.Eynern, v.Felbert, v.Duisburg - but there only for certain persons and their descendants and not for the whole family). A complete Martikel (Registry of), which families or persons before 1918 - thus the abolishment of the monarchy and the end of the historical aristocracy - were formerly aristocratic and which formerly ungelige state, does not exist until today and so it always comes back to confusion and misinterpretations, if former non-noble want to be recognized as a former noble with a "von".
“In short, the "von" prefix to a German name could denote either the place from which a family originated or nobility (known as a nobiliary particle). It does not denote a title or specific rank. As the legal wife of a duke of Atenveldt, this client has a right to the title of courtesy Duchess should she choose to use it, making her a member of a noble house.”
The client desires a female name and it most interested in the sound and language/culer of the name (German, Germany).

Logan Fraser (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per bend sinister gules and sable on a bend sinister cotised argent, a badger statant sable.

Logan is the client's legal. It is also a late-period surname in Scotland and England evidenced by David Logan with the christening date of 07 Sep 1600 in South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland (Batch C19503-1, Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, Fraser is a Scottish surname, evidenced by Samuell Fraser with the christening date 24 Jul 1597 in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland (Batch C11685-4, Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound and the language/culture of the name (Scotland). He will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.

Sundragon, Barony of: NEW BADGE: (Fieldless) A sun in splendor Or within and conjoined to five dragons passant in annulo argent.

The branch name was registered September 1984.

Etienne Le Mons notes that there's a SFPP for charges in annulo not in their default orientation, but only the one.

The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, July 2018:

Abigail de Westminster and Lachlann Dougal Graeme. Joint badge. (Fieldless) Three chevronels couped and braced counter-ermine.
Aelia Musa. Badge. (Fieldless) A Suffolk knot Or.
This is the defining instance of a Suffolk knot in Society armory. The Suffolk knot was the knot-badge of John de la Pole, Duke of Suffolk, d.1491. Cf. Fox-Davies, Heraldic Badges, p.147, and Siddons, Heraldic Badges in England and Wales, vol.II.2 p.232. Nice badge!
Ardgal mac Ardgaile. Name and device. Or, a gurges azure, overall a mullet of eight points, a bordure vert.
Submitted as Ardgal Ardgalson, the constructed patronymic Ardgalson improperly combined the Gaelic Ardgal in the same name phrase as the Old Norse or English -son, which is prohibited by PN1B1. With the submitter's permission, we have changed the name to the wholly Gaelic Ardgal mac Ardgaile, documented in commentary by Brían dorcha ua Conaill.
There is a step from period practice for placing a charge on a gurges.
Benton Ivanovich. Name and device. Per chevron inverted gules and argent, in pale a mullet of eight points argent, charged with a mallet sable, and a polypus gules.
Benton is the submitter's legal given name.
Fenrich Stürmer Hahn. Device. Or, a dunghill cock rising contourny vert maintaining a fauchard bendwise sinister gules hafted sable, a bordure raguly sable.
Ian'ka Ivanova zhena P'trovitsa. Exchange of primary and alternate name.
The submitter's primary name is now Ian'ka Ivanova zhena P'trovitsa. Her previous name, Ianuk Raventhorne, is now her alternate name.
Ian'ka Ivanova zhena P'trovitsa. Badge. Gules, a raven displayed, on a chief invected argent three Ukrainian trident heads gules.
There is a step from period practice for a bird other than an eagle in a displayed posture.
Juliette Marion Geant. Name change from Juliette Dashwood.
The given name Juliette is already registered to the submitter and thus is treated as neutral in time and language under the Existing Registration Allowance. It was also documented in commentary as a late-period Dutch given name. In either case, it can be combined with two late period German elements.
The submitter's previous name, Juliette Dashwood, is retained as an alternate name.
Mason Arison. Name and device. Or, a shark naiant contourny, in chief a spiked mace fesswise azure. Mason is the submitter's legal given name. However, he need not rely on the Legal Name Allowance, as Seraphina Ragged Staff found Mason as a late period English given name in the FamilySearch Historical Records. Although the Letter of Intent argued that Arison was the patronymic form of the Old Norse name Ari, that documentation was not correct. The genitive form of the Old Norse Ari is Ara, making the patronymic Arason. Fortunately, Adelaide Pympernell was able to document Arison as a late period English surname.
Merrick Mag Uidhir. Name and device. Quarterly azure and argent, a tower counterchanged.
Merrick is the submitter's legal given name.
Submitted as Merrick Maguidhir, the spelling of the byname was not supported by the documentation in the Letter of Intent. We again remind heralds and submitters that the italicized Gaelic forms in Black's Surnames of Scotland are nearly always modernized forms and cannot be relied on as the sole documentation for a name element. [Seamus Mac Enrig, 09/2006 LoAR, A-Meridies] For guidelines on how to use Black, see the March 2018 Cover Letter. Fortunately, Brian dorcha ua Conaill documented Mag Uidhir as an Early Modern Gaelic surname found from the 13th century onwards. This surname can be combined with the submitter's legal given name. Therefore, we have changed the name to Merrick Mag_Uidhir for registration.
Russell Rusli Marteinnson. Name.
Valarie Longbow. Name and device. Argent, a dragon passant maintaining an artist's brush inverted azure, on a point pointed sable a sheaf of arrows argent.
Valarie is the submitter's legal given name.
Varinn inn Spaki. Badge. Argent, within the horns of a increscent gules in pale a wolf's head cabossed and in saltire two roses sable, slipped and leaved vert.
This badge is being registered despite lack of documentation of the arrangement of two different types of charge within the horns of a crescent. This issue was not mentioned in the previous return of the badge, so the submitter is being given the benefit of the doubt. In the future, submitters will need to document this pattern.

The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work, July 2018:
Orabilis Douw. Badge. Per saltire gules and sable, a dragon and a Greek sphinx rampant addorsed argent, a bordure embattled ermine.
This badge is returned administratively as the emblazon in OSCAR does not match the emblazon on the actual form. In addition, it appears that the kingdom redrew this badge with no mention of submitter consultation or approval. This is also grounds for return.

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