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Unto Their Royal Majesties Cosmo Craven and Elzbieta; Baroness Genevieve de Lironcourt, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

This is the October2016 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation; it precedes the Letter of Intent with submissions considered for the next Letter of Intent. Please have your commentary made by 15 October 2016.

Submission Fee Increase: The fee for new submissions by the S.C.A . College of Arms has increases to $4.00 as of the September 2016 LoAR. At this time, there is no intent to increase the current fee for a new submission from the Kingdom of Atenveldt ($7.00).

Heraldry Hut: the September meeting was held at the home of Symond Bayard and Marta. Please contact me with questions or directions.

Please consider the following submissions for the October 2016 Atennveldt Letter of Intent:

Cirina Badartai (Twin Moons): NEW NAME CHANGE and NEW DEVICE

Per saltire purpure and argent, in fess two feathers sable and a demi-sun issuant from base Or.

The name is Mongolian. Cirina is a female given name found in Mongolian Naming Practices, Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Badartai means “monk, mdendicant.” The literal term is badarcila (http://www.linguamongolia.html) but following On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names, Baras-aghur Naran (, it was suggested on Facebook's SCA Heraldry Chat that the appropriate suffix to indicate possessions (a conditiion of being a monk) would be “tai.” The client desires a female name and will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name. If registered, the client's current name, Serena the Lavendere, should be retained as an alternate name.

Magnus Ulfsson (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Or, a boar statant sable and one a chief rayonny gules a tau-rho Or.

The name is Old Norse. Magnus is a masculine given name found in The Old Norse Name, Geir Bassi Haraldsson, p.13. Ulfr is a masculine given name, same source, p. 15. Ulfsson is an ON patronymic formed from Ulfr+son according to the patronymic formation p.17, in Geirr Bassi. Unfortunately, there is a direct conflict with Magnus Ulfson, registered March 2016. The client may wish to choose a byname that would clear the conflict: Galti is ON for “boar,” surtr “black,” inn hugprúði “stout-hearted.”

The tau-rho staurogram is one of several christograms, or monogram-like devices used by ancient Christians, to refer to Jesus. However, New Testament scholar Larry Hurtado points out that the staurogram only refers to the crucifixion, unlike others, which mention Jesus’ other characteristics. Also, the staurogram is visual—the tau-rho combinations create images of Jesus on the cross, making the staurogram the earliest Christian images of Jesus on the cross. It is created out of the Greek letters tau and rho: “In Greek, the language of the early church, the capital tau, or T, looks pretty much like our T. The capital rho, or R, however, is written like our P. If you superimpose the two letters, it looks something like this.” (

Riane Goch (Tir Ysgithr):NEW DEVICE CHANGE

Gules, on a plate a dragon's head erased sable impaled on a sword gules.

The name was registered December 2014.

If the new device is registered, the current device, Per saltire argent and gules, in chief two chevronels couped and in base a pair of scissors sable., should be released.

The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, July 2016:

Alexandra Starling of Ravenspurn. Name.
Ravenspurn is a lingua Anglica form of the place name found as Ravenser Spurne, Raven(e)ser(e), and other forms found in period in Watts. The 1597 edition of Shakespeare's Richard II uses the form Rauen spurgh ( If the submitter prefers one of the attested forms, she can submit a request for reconsideration.

Callum of Skye. Name and device. Azure, on a bend between a sheaf of arrows inverted and a thistle Or, three fleurs-de-lys azure.
The submitter requested authenticity for a 12th to 16th century Scottish name. The given name Callum was documented as a Scots name from 1643, and was also documented in commentary to the late 16th century. The place name Skye was also found in a map from 1573. Although both elements are found in the 16th century, bynames tended to be inherited at this time rather than literal. Therefore, this name as a whole is not as likely in the 16th century as a form such as Callum Skye or something like Callum [surname] of Skye, but it may be authentic.
Hunter de Grae. Name.
Submitted as Hunter du Grae, the correct preposition is de ("of") rather than the French contraction du ("of the"): “Submitted as Sutton du Grae, the correct preposition is de rather than the French du (a contraction of de and le). We have made this change. Ogress found de Grae as a Gaelic header form in Woulfe, with the late period Anglicized Irish forms de Gray and de Graye. Therefore, we are able to register de Grae as a Gaelic form. The Letter of Intent also included Grae as an unmarked English surname and de Gray in Scots. This name combines an English given name and Gaelic byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA. [Sutton de Grae, August 2015, A-Atenveldt]”
Just as in the prior name, we have changed the preposition to the correct form, and the English-Gaelic lingual mix is acceptable under Appendix C of SENA.
Hunter is the submitter's legal middle name, but is also a 16th century English surname that is registerable as a given name. Therefore, the submitter need not rely on the legal name allowance.
We note that the Letter of Intent stated that the byname du Grae is grandfathered to the submitter because it is the byname of his legal father, Ivan du Grae. However, the father's name is registered as Ivan of Navarette, so du Grae is not eligible for the grandfather clause.
`Izza al-Zarqa'. Device change. Purpure, two horses combattant and on a chief argent three lotus blossoms in profile purpure.
Please advise the submitter to draw the lotus flowers more vertically centered on the chief so that they do not look as if they were issuant from the line of division.
The submitter's old device, Purpure, two horses combattant and a chief Or, is retained as a badge.
Jacket Tyllyng. Device. Per fess azure and vert, on a fess between three lions argent a sinister fist azure.
William MacIver. Name and device. Per saltire gules and argent, in fess two wyverns erect respectant sable.
The submitted form of the byname, MacIver, was not clearly documented before 1650 in non-normalized sources. Past registration is no guarantee of current registerability.
However, Black s.n. Ivar dates Iver as a given name spelling to the first half of the 16th century. Period forms of the submitted byname in this source include M'Euir, Makevire, and McEvir. In additon, Ogress found the name Iver M'Ever in Account of the Clan-Iver by Peter Colin Campbell, dated to 1635 (p.98, This example may have been normalized, but given the range of period examples, we can give the submitter the benefit of the doubt that the submitted form of the byname is reasonable.

The following submissions have been returned for further work, July 2016:

Alexandra Starling of Ravenspurn. Device. Purpure, a chevron inverted of chain conjoined at the point to a lighthouse Or flammant gules.
This device is returned for having the chevron of chain issuing far too high on the field. Per long standing precedent, it should issue from the sides of the field.On redesign, please keep in mind that some commenters had some trouble identifying the lighthouse, mostly due to the low contrast of the flames on the field.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

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