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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 8 January 2010, A.S. XLIV
LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt


Unto Their Royal Majesties Edward and Asa; Dame Anita, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings of the New Year from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!


This is the January 2010 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. It precedes the external Letter of Intent (and it's itty-bitty!) that will contain the following submissions that are presented here, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry and consultation. You can send commentary to me privately at brickbat@nexiliscom.com or join “Atenveldt Submissions Commentary” at Yahoo! ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atenveldt_Submissions_Commentary/ ) and post there. (Any commentary is likely be included in the next month's Letter of Presentation so that all may learn from it, and we can see how additional documentation or comments may have influenced a submission.) Please have commentary to me by 15 January 2010. (It's short notice, but there aren't too many submissions on this or the December 2009 LoP.)


Heraldry Hut: The next Heraldry Hut will be held Friday, 15 January 2010.


Estrella War: Yes, there will be a Heralds' Point, complete with a Consultation Table! Very likely the days and times will be Wednesday-Sunday, 10:00 AM-5:00 PM. We're trying a “new thing” this year; on Sunday, there will be no walk-in consultations. People who wish to consult will have had to sign up before Sunday to do so. Records show that our “worst day” for consultation (in the matter of submissions being returned) is Sunday, most likely because we're all tired and cranky and the collective heraldic brain isn't working so well. It also doesn't help that there's often a big crunch of people arriving at the Consultation Table mid-afternoon, when we're beginning to wind down. Discouraging “last minute” drop-ins might avoid less-than-sterling and/or rushed ones. Of course, if we're there twiddling our thumbs, all of this could change and walk-ins might be welcome – we'll have to see how this works out. (Cutting off sign-ins at 4:00 PM every day has worked very well in making sure that the Table can be closed at 5:00 so people don't miss court/dinner/other activities.)

Please, consider spending a few hours or a few days at the Consultation Table! There always seems a place for just one more herald!

Also at Estrella this year: Knowne World Heralds' Pot Luck Social! This will take place at 7:00 PM Friday. All heralds are welcome! Come and meet other Heralds, both in Atenveldt and from around the Knowne World. Bring your own goodies and something to share. Eat, drink, be merry!


Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too: atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com.


Please consider the following submissions for the January 2010 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:


Francesca Marchesi (Brymstone): NEW BADGE

Purpure, a natural seahorse and in chief three mullets, all within a bordure Or.

The name was registered August 2008. The badge is based on device, Purpure, a natural seahorse and in chief three mullets Or., registered October 2008.

Isabella Ponce (Brymstone): NEW NAME AND DEVICE

Quarterly vert and sable, on a cross Or between four gouttes argent, a leaf vert.

The name is Spanish; Isabella is a feminine given name found in "Spanish Names in the Late 15th C.," Juliana de Luna ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/ ) -- actually, Isabel and Isabelica are found in this source, but Isabella is not.

Ponce is a locative surname documented in Academy of Saint Gabriel Report #2822), as both the Bahia and the Rio de Juan Ponce (Bay of/River of Juan Ponce).

Rose Ella Duvanovich doch' Sychevna (Brymstone): NEW NAME

The name is English and Russian. Rose Ella is the client's legal mundane given name, and a copy of her Driver's License is provided for Laurel.

Duvan is a masculine given name dated to 1521 in “A Dictionary of Period Russian Names,” Paul Wickenden of Thanet (http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/ ). -ov is the most commonly-used suffix to create a masculine patronymic, “son of Duvan” (“Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Russian Names – Grammar,” http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/zgrammar.html ), hence Duvanov. In later period, -ich appears, usually among the upper classes in late period Russia, and is appended to the patronymic, so Duvanov + ich becomes Duvanovich. The feminine versions would be Duvanova and Duvanovicha. Additionally, modern (and very late period/grey area) feminine forms can take -ovna/-evna endings.(Two examples cited by Paul, Marfa Ivanovna (1618) [RIB II 357] and Princess Evdokeia Luk'ianovna (1643) [RIB XII 227] are both pre-1650, so in the grey area.) This would make the name Duvanovna.

In late period, the familial form appears (patronymic + doch'), and a father's byname can proceed after this construction.

Sychev is a byname meaning “brown owl,” dated to 1212 in Paul's name dictionary, and also cross-referenced in his “Zoological Bynames in Medieval Russia,” Paul Wickenden of Thanet ( http://www.goldschp.net/archive/zoonames.html#birds ), where it is dated c. 1495; it comes from the masculine given name Sych'.

This construction, using a woman's father's full name with the element doch', is found in "A Chicken Is Not A Bird: Feminine Personal Names in Medieval Russia,” Paul Wickenden of Thanet ( http://www.goldschp.net/archive/femnames.html ). All elements of the patronymic need to be feminized to reflect the gender of the individual bearing the name, and I believe that since the elements are late period, the endings might be more correct as Duvanovicha doch Sychevna. (I keep thinking that the more accurate form would be Duvanovicha doch' Sychevicha or Duvanova doch' Sycheva or Duvanovna doch' Sychevna. However, there seems to be so much leeway and variation in Russian names that the combination of these suffixes might be reasonable. Anyway, one of Paul's examples in his Grammar is for the daughter of Ivan Guba, Ol'ga. Her name and their relationship could be rendered 15 different ways (aargh!), with six of those being the “most common” forms.) Paul notes in the Grammar portion of his Dictionary that the -vich and -ovna/-evna endings are usually found attached to “Christian” names, and I don't know if Duvan and Sych are Christian/canonical names or Old Russian names; again, Russian names are so fluid that by late period, this might no longer be the case.


Twin Moons, Barony of: NEW BADGE

Azure, on a pall inverted embattled between two increscents argent, a mace azure.
This badge is intended for a new Baronial Youth Fighting Award (no name as yet). Very likely the only conflict will be for badges already registered to the Barony, but this has otherwise not been conflict-checked.

The line of division is bretessed in the emblazon, rather than embattled.


Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

brickbat@nexiliscom.com

atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com




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