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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS

Letter of Intent

20 September 2018, A.S. LIII



Unto Juliana Laurel; Alys Pelican; Cormac Wreath; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!


The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms. Unless specifically stated, the client will accept any spelling and grammar corrections; all assistance is appreciated.


1. Adrienne Noël de Lorraine: NEW DEVICE

Or, a dragon vert maintaining a wooden tankard proper and a dumbeg sable.


The name was registered July 2001.


There was some discussion on whether the forelegs holding the charges should be specifically included in the blazon (right vs. left/dexter vs. sinister), but I chose to blazon the charge that is chiefmost (the tankard) first. I could be wrong.


2. Áine inghean Uí Raghallaigh: NEW DEVICE
Per chevron inverted argent and Or, a chevron inverted purpure surmounted by a dragon sejant vert between three arrows purpure, vert and azure.


The name was registered May 2018 (why this doesn't appear in the Armorial is anyone's guess).


There is a SFPP for depicting three elements in a charge group in three different tinctures.


3. Franz Weiher: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per fess sable and azure, a compass rose Or between three crosses formy argent.


The name is German. Franz is a male given name; Franz Pauwel Schlepers have a christening date of 10 Dec 1595 in Sankt Kunibert Katholisch, Koeln Stadt, Rheinland, Prussia (Batch J96886-1, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N852-NQ8 : 10 February 2018).
Margaretha Weiher has a christening date of 09 Sep 1599 in Huddenhardt, Mosbach Baden (Batch C93484-2, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8Q3-G7X : 10 February 2018).

There was some discussion that the surname as written out in a period record might be showing a long -s (thus, Weisser) rather than an -h- in Weiher. The client has been told about this, and he replied that Weiher is one of his family names.

The client desires a male name and will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.


Michael Gerard Curtememoire notes for Niall Marescal's armorial submission, "Please advise the submitter that while the rays of a compass rose may overlap the outer ring, they should not extend beyond it, with the exception of the north mark," https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/12/14-12lar.html#118. He believes this was an artist's note; the item was returned otherwise for a different reason.


4. Hlaðgerðr Arnfriðardóttir: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per chevron inverted vert and argent, a chickadee contourny Or and an iris blossom azure slipped vert..


Submitted originally as Lagertha Arnafrí ðsdottir, there were several name issues which were addressed (read, came to the rescue!) by Gunnvor Orle and ffride wlffsdotter. Upon consultation with the client, she is happy to have the name submitted as Hlaðgerðr Arnfriðardóttir.

For Hlaðgerðr, Gunnvor comments “Saxo Grammaticus' Gesta Danorum Book IX has a Latin <Lathgertha> (http://wayback-01.kb.dk/wayback/20100504153455/http://www2.kb.dk/elib/lit/dan/saxo/lat/or.dsr/9/4/in dex.htm -- or https://tinyurl.com/SaxoLathgertha, since OSCAR insists on breaking the link). This almost certainly reflects an Old Norse <*Hlaðgerðr>. ffride coorborates this: “Lind col. 550 sn. Hlaðgerðr makes the same connection between "Hlaðgerðr a Hlaðeyjum" and Saxo's "Lathgertha."”

Arnfríðr is an ON female given name (Viking Names found in Landnámabók, Aryanhwy merch Catmael. http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html). The metronymic for a woman is formed with

-ðr → ðardóttir A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names, Aryanhwy merch Catmael, http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html).

The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound and language/culture of the name. She asks that it be make authentic for 9th-10th C. Old Norse.


There were also several issues with the device. Upon further consultation with the client, the line of division was corrected/redrawn and the tincture of the iris specified. She's also fine with making the iris blue and the slip/stem vert. The grey-headed chickadee, or Siberian tit, is indeed an Old World bird (found in Scandinavia and northern Asia, as well as across central Alaska (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey-headed_chickadee), but while chickadees and tits are related in the tit family Paridae, the critters are usually called chickadees in the New World and tits in the Old World. She likes the appearance of the little round bird, regardless of what it's finally registered as.


5. Hrafnkel Sveinsson: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per pale argent and sable, a calamarie and in base two anchors all counterchanged.


The name is Old Norse. Hrafnkell (with two -l-s) is a male given found in “Viking Names found in Landnámabók,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html). A number of versions of the Icelandic saga spell it as Hrafnkel.
Gunnvor comments that “A number of modern translations of Hrafnkels saga omit the second "l". In Old Norse, it's <Hrafnkell> in the nominative case. [In] E. H. Lind. Norsk-Isländska Dopnamn ock Fingerade Namn från Medeltiden (Uppsala: AQ.-B.Lundequistska Bokhandeln. 1849-1931. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009007424) col. 566 s.n. <Hrafnkell> has no nominative examples that drop the second "l".”
Sveinn is a male given name, also found above. This becomes Sveinsson when used as a patronymic (“A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael, http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html).
The client will not accept Major changes to the name.


6. Katrina von Neumann: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Gules, on a bend wavy fimbriated and cotised wavy three mullets palewise argent.

The name is German. Katrina Burkmanss born July 12, 1573 in Auenheim, Offenburg (Batch C93267-1
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N877-HM9 ).
Martin Neumann born November 11, 1594 in Ulm, Wurttemberg, Germany (Batch C0044-7,
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NC7H-V8G).
The client's consulting herald, Lyn of Whitewolfe, includes with the submission:

“Client would also like to add the prefix “von” before her surname. The direct translation can mean either “from”, as in come from the town of, or “descendent from”, as in the family of . Modern genealogy experts state that there is no definitve listing of the aristocratic families who used the prefix as shown below:
“According to the Institut Deutsche Adelsforschung (Institute of German Aristocratic Research), (http://home.foni.net/~adelsforschung/faq1.htm):
(Please note that this is an online translation of a page written in German and is subsequently sometimes awkwardly written)
“The word "von" in front of a name does not necessarily mean that the family in question is a former German noble family. Especially in Schleswig-Holstein, in Lower Saxony and in Westphalia, where most of the families listed below come from, there were many genders of non-noble origin who bore a "from" in the name, but were not noble. Their "von" comes from the original denominations of origin and has only rarely become an aristocratic sign (eg in the v.Doemming, v.Eynern, v.Felbert, v.Duisburg - but there only for certain persons and their descendants and not for the whole family). A complete Martikel (Registry of), which families or persons before 1918 - thus the abolishment of the monarchy and the end of the historical aristocracy - were formerly aristocratic and which formerly ungelige state, does not exist until today and so it always comes back to confusion and misinterpretations, if former non-noble want to be recognized as a former noble with a "von".
“In short, the "von" prefix to a German name could denote either the place from which a family originated or nobility (known as a nobiliary particle). It does not denote a title or specific rank. As the legal wife of a duke of Atenveldt, this client has a right to the title of courtesy Duchess should she choose to use it, making her a member of a noble house.”
The client desires a female name and it most interested in the sound and language/culture of the name (German, Germany).


7. Logan Fraser: NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per bend sinister gules and sable on a bend sinister cotised argent, a badger statant sable.


Logan is the client's legal given name. It is also a late-period surname in Scotland and England evidenced by David Logan with the christening date of 07 Sep 1600 in South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland (Batch C19503-1, Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1771030). Late period surnames in England can be used as given names.

Fraser is a Scottish surname, evidenced by Samuell Fraser with the christening date 24 Jul 1597 in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland (Batch C11685-4, Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1771030).
The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound and the language/culture of the name (Scotland). He will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.


8. Sundragon, Barony of: NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) A sun in splendor Or within and conjoined to five dragons passant in annulo argent.


The branch name was registered September 1984.


Etienne Le Mons notes that there's a SFPP for charges in annulo not in their default orientation, but only the one.




There are 5 New Names, 7 New Devices and 1 New Badge. These 13 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $52 for them. There are a total of 13 items submitted on this letter.



I was assisted in the preparation of this Letter with Commentary by Christian Jorgensen af Hilsonger, Etienne Le Mons, ffride wlffsdotter, Gunnvor silfraharr (Orle), Kolosvari Arpadne Julia, Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Pantheon), Lyn of Whitewolfe (Twin Palm P.), Michael Gerard Curtememoire and Wulfric von Frankfurt (Thunderbolt P.).



Thank you to those who provide your wisdom and patience, your expertise and your willingness to share it.


Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy
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