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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 30 August 2014, A.S. XLIX
LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt


Unto Their Royal Majesties Cosmo Craven and Elzbieta; Lord Tymothy Smythson, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!



This is the September 2014 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation; it precedes the Letter of Intent with submissions considered for the next Letter of Intent. Please have commentary to me by 15 September 2014. It includes the “first batch” of the Estella XXX submissions.


Heraldry Hut: Heraldry Hut will be held Friday, 19 September 2014, beginning at 7:30 PM. Please contact me for location and directions.


Please consider the following submissions for the September 2014 Letter of Intent:


Aurora Rose Glasford (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Purpure, a horse rampant argent and a demi-sun issuant from base Or, a bordure argent charged with a semy of butterflies purpure.

The name is English. Double given names are permitted for late period English names, http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixA. Aurora was allowed as a grey-period English name per the October 2011 LoAR (for Aurora Swanhild's name submission): William Alexander used <Aurora> in the early part of the grey period as a name for his (presumably human) mistress, to whom his poems are addressed. You can see, for example, this in Google Books, Specimens of the British Poets: With Biographical and Critical Notices. Brittanica dates the Aurora sonnets to 1604. Rose is a feminine given name for Rose Adams, a christening name from 1586, C04697-2 , https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQFS-VR8. Glasford is dated to 1599 for Elizabeth Glasford's christening date, Batch C00813-3, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NRB3-9Z9. The client desires a female name and will not accept Major changes to the name.


Caell Robertson (BoA): NEW CHANGE OF DEVICE

Sable, a winged manticore gardant Or.

The name was registered June 2013.

This isn't an heraldic manticore, which has a man's head/face, often with three rows of teeth. This can be blazoned accurately as a bat-winged, scorpion-tailed lion salient gardant. If registered, his current device, Per pale argent and sable, a dolmen counterchanged., is to be retained as a badge.


Catharin Syl'vestrova (BoA): NEW DEVICE

Gyronny azure and Or, four Russian Orthodox crosses two and two counterchanged.

The name was registered June 2014.


Cynthia de la Dale (Granite Mountain): NEW NAME, DEVICE and BADGE

(device) Azure, a mascle fracted in saltire between four cottonwood leaves bases to center, on a chief invected argent three fleurs-de-lys vert.

(badge) Argent, a fleur-de-lys vert within a mascle fracted in saltire azure.

The name is English. Cynthia is the client's legal given name and so is using the Legal Name Allowance. de la Dale is dated to 1275 in Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, p. 124, s.n. Dale. The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound and the language/culture of the name (English).


Elliott O'Callahan (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per pale vert and purpure, a calamarie and in chief three annulets argent.

Elliott is the client's given name. Eliot is found as an English given name in Curia Rolls 1210 (Withycombe, 3rd edition, p. 99, s.n. Elijah, Elias). (Further documentation includes Hanks and Hodges, which has been discounted for eons – or at least a decade-plus – and reference to the Armorial and Ordinary, which doesn't stand as a reference simply because a name element appears in it. But Withycombe is good.) No documentation was provided for the byname. There are only two very old registrations to Callahan (not O' or O Callahan) in the A&O. The closest I find is a simpler Callahan with 1630, as a christening date for Dennis Callahan in Northumberland, England, Batch P00435-1, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5NK-J7X. The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound of the name. He would like it authentic for 12th-14th C. Ireland or Scotland; he will not accept Major changes to the name.

I think the annulets can be beefed up a little. I don't know if we can let the one in the middle drop a bit like this and just consider it artistic license.


Elizabeta de Wallachia (Granite Mountain): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Sable, a daisy and on a chief double-arched argent three gouts gules.

Elizabeta is a Hungarian and a Romanian female given name, found in “Hungarian Feminine Names,” Walraven van Nijmegen, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/magfem2.html#thelist. Wallachia is the southern region of modern Romania, “the Land of the Walachs,” the indiginous people of the area. The Olt River divides Wallachia into Muntenia in the east and Oltenia in the west (http://romaniatourism.com/walachia.html). The client desires a female name; she will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.


Geoffrey Frost (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Sable, a chevron argent cotised Or between three lions rampant argent.

The name is English. Geoffrey is a masculine given name in “Yorkshire Masculine Names from 1379,” Talan Gwynek, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/yorkshire/yorkm.html; it is also the client's legal given name. Frost is an English surname found in “Names from 15th Century York,” Karen Larsdatter, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/york15/. The client desires a male name and is most interested in the spelling of the name.

Gideon the Weary (BoA): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, January 2010

Sable, a dragon Or and a griffin argent segreant addorsed, tails entwined.

The name was registered January 2010.

The original submission, Per pale argent and sable, a dragon and a griffin segreant addorsed, tails entwined, counterchanged., was returned for

conflict with the device of Balin the Grisley, Per pale argent and sable, two dragons rising addorsed counterchanged, breathing flames and their tails grasped by, in base, a gauntlet counterchanged gules and Or. “The gauntlet is a maintained charge; therefore, there is a single CD for changing a dragon to a griffin.This device is also returned for violating section XI.3 (Marshalling) of the Rules for Submissions, which says "Divisions commonly used for marshalling, such as quarterly or per pale, may only be used in contexts that ensure marshalling is not suggested." Section XI.3.a says that "such fields may be used with identical charges over the entire field, or with complex lines of partition or charges overall that were not used for marshalling in period heraldry." This submission uses non-identical charges on the field and has no complex line of partition or charge overall. Some commenters argued that the entwined tails removed the appearance of marshalling. However, due to the tinctures involved, several people thought that the tails were not entwined, but merely 'bouncing off' each other as they touched the line of division, and remaining within the same half of the field as the monster each is attached to, thus contributing to the appearance of marshalling.”
It's a little odd to have the tinctures mentioned so early in the blazon, but it keeps them clear, as well as the postures between the charges.

Grace Quinn (GM): NEW NAME and DEVICE
(device) Argent, three stoppered vials purpure, on a bordure vert a semy of elderflowers argent barbed and seeded Or.

(badge) (Fieldless) A stoppered vial purpure charged with an elderflower argent barbed and seeded Or.

Grace is an English feminine vernacular form, 1346-1562 (and preceding this), in “Feminine Given Names in
A Dictionary of English Surnames: Grece,” Talan Gwynek, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Grece. Quinne and Quine are English surnames dated 1275, Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, s.n. Quin, Quinn. Quine is also a Manx surname in 1504, Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, s.n. Quine, Quinn. The client desires a female name and is most interested for a language/culture with the given name Grace.


Kevin the Wayfarer (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Gules, a hart's head cabossed and on a chief Or three estoiles sable.

Kevin is the client's legal given name. A wayfarer is a traveler, particularly one who goes by foot; this spelling can be dated to 1602, and earlier spelling date to c. 1440 (COED).

The device submission had to be redrawn, as the submitted form was done in wax crayon, a reason for return even if there is no conflict or other problem.


Lia de Citolur (GM): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, June 2012

Per bend sinister azure and vert, on a bend sinister between to semiminims argent a heart palewise gules entwined by a flowering woodbine proper.

The name was registered June 2012.

The previous submission, Argent, a heart of woodvine vine vert flowered Or and a bordure wavy sable semy of semiminims Or., was returned for a redraw, “for using an unblazonable, unidentifiable vine. No evidence was provided, and none was found by commenters, that a "heart-shape" was a valid arrangement in period armory. Commenters also confused this vine with a laurel wreath, which is a restricted charge, due to the similar shape of the leaves. The flowers depicted on this vine were too small to be noticed. It is unlikely that any vine with similarly shaped leaves depicted in a circular arrangement would not be confused with a laurel wreath.”


Liesel Knapp von Colmberg (Tir Ygithr): NEW NAME CHANGE from Issobell de Lockford

The current name was registered September 2001; when the new name is registered, this should be retained as an alternate.

The name is German. Liesel has something of a history , documented from Academy of S. Gabriel Report #2910. The report says: <Liesel> is a diminutive of <Liese>, a pet form of <Elisabeth> [2]. We have not found a period example of <Liesel> in any spelling or of <Liese> in that specific spelling, but in our Arnsburg data the spelling <Lyse> is well represented in the first half of the 14th century and is found through the 15th century...None of the commenters were able to provide evidence for either Liese or Liesel in our period. Barring such evidence, these spellings are not registerable. The information from the S. Gabriel Report suggests that Lysel is a possible form of the name, though Lysele is more likely.” (The name was registered as Lysel.) Alternately, the client would consider Lisle, a Swedish feminine given name dated to 1525, in “Swedish Feminine Given Names from SMP,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael, http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/swedish/smp/. Knapp is a German surname dated to 1577 for Margreth Knapp, Batch M94361-1, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JHX2-GGF. Colmberg is a municipality in the district of Ansbach in Bavaria in Germany; it is the site of Colmberg Castle (German: Burg Colmberg), built in the 13th century and purchased in 1318 by Duke Frederick IV of Nuremberg, http://www.burg-colmberg.de/showpage.php?SiteID=1&lang=2. Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes, http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixC, permits mixing of Swedish and German name element in late period (post-1600). The client is most interested in the spelling of the name.


Madok ap Gruffydd (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per fess argent and azure, two towers azure and a keythong rampant Or.

The name is Welsh. Both elements are masculine given Welsh names, but the patronymic is a modern form of the name; an accurate 13th C. form (matching the time period of Madok) is Griffid, Gryffid or Gryffyd; information is found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names,” Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html. The client desires a male name, is most interested in the meaning, and wishes it authentic for 12th-14th C. Welsh culture.


Maeve Sinclair (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME

Maeve is a feminine given name dated to 1584, “Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents: Women's Names,” Mari ingen Briain, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Feminine.shtml. Sinclair is a header found in Black's Surnames of Scotland, with the spelling Sinclaire in 1598 and Syndklair in 1526. Maria Sinclair has a christening date of 1673 in England, Batch K03721-2, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMNM-9WR. The client desires a female name and is most interested in the meaning of the name.


Maria Iustinianus (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per pale sable and argent, a disjointed moline cross counterchanged and on a chief gules four roses Or.

The name is Byzantine Greek. Maria is a feminine name found in “Common Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the 6th and 7th Centuries,” Berret Chavez, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/byzantine/PLRE_fem_names.html#m. Iustinianus is a masculine given name found in the same source, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/byzantine/PLRE_masc_names.html#i. Construction on names of the period is found in “Personal Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the Later Byzantine Era,” http://heraldry.sca.org/names/byzantine/structures.html#feminine_names. Single or married, a woman would have her father or husband's name appended to her own name, either of those feminized. It's likely that this might be more likely Maria Iustinianina (maybe), based on the chart at http://heraldry.sca.org/names/byzantine/feminizing.html, but we're really not sure. The client desires a female name and one from the Byzantine Greek language/culture. She will not accept Major changes to the name.


Rainulf Lion (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Quarterly azure and gules, a lion and in dexter chief a mullet argent.

The name is French. Rainulf Dregnot, d. 1045, was a Norman mercenary who became the first Count Aversia in Italy (The Norman Conquest of Southern Italy and Sicily, Gordon S. Brown, http://books.google.com/books?id=c_Pft6RqfYIC&pg=PA213&lpg=PA213&dq=Rainulf+Dregnot&source=bl&ots=fdkwqxcMHR&sig=8Jd_qVATHvSLliCjYEAdfgviIG0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3kH5U9org_qLAuLogfgE&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Rainulf%20Dregnot&f=false). Although registered way back in the December 2001 LoAR, Drogo Rainulf de Dragonera was recorded without comment. Both Lion and Lyon are found as given names in “An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris,” Colm Dubh, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paris.html. In French, unmarked patronymics are more common than marked, http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixA.


Rhiane y' Coch (Mons Tonitrus): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per saltire argent and gules, two chevronels couped and a pair of shears sable.

The name is Welsh. Rhiane is said to be found in “Concerning the Names Rhiannon, Rhian, and the Like.” Josh Mittleman and Heather Rose Jones, http://medievalscotland.org/problem/names/rhiannon.shtml, which is not a good place to document a period name, as the theme of the article is to demonstrate that these names nor largely not period. Furthermore, Rhiane is not found in the article. If anyone can help with this, it would be appreciated. Coch is a personal byname for “red,” found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names,” Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html/, although it appears that the period form is Goch /ones that appears in a medieval source. There are a number of Goch names registered, and they all seem to so without the y' particle. The client desires a female name and if most interested in the sound of the name; she wishes it authentic for the language/culture of 12th C Wales.


Sa'id al-Sabbah (GM): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per bend argent and azure, a polypus sable and a pair of calipers sable.

The name is Arabic. Sa’id is a masculine 'ism/ given name. al-Sabbah is amasculine cognomen used as 'isms, including both laquabe and nisbas. Both element are found in “Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices,” Da'ud ibn Auda, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm. The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound of the name. He will not accept Major changes to the name.

Sarah le Frith (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Azure, a crescent argent and on a chief Or, three estoiles azure.

Sarah is the client's legal given name. I'm not certain if the byname is an acceptable abbreviation for a small town in Derbyshire, Chapel-en-le-Frith, or from another source.


Sophia Elisabetta Dal Ponte (GM): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per bend Or and vert, a shoe and a sword bendwise counterchanged.

The name is Italian/ Venetian. Sofia and Elisabetta are feminine given names, found in “Late Period Italian Women's Names: Venice,”

Juliana de Luna, http://medievalscotland.org/jes/Nuns/Venice.shtml. Dal Ponte (a Signa) is a family name founs in “Late Period Italian Women's Names: Florence,” Juliana de Luna, http://medievalscotland.org/jes/Nuns/Florence.shtml. Italian names do show double given names (SENA: Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation by Language Group, Italian). The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound of the name. She will not take Major changes to the name.

Zofią of Grodno (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per chevron gules and Or, two Ukranian trident heads and a fox's mask counterchanged.

The name is Lithuanian. Zofią is found among other variations of the name in “16th and early 17th C. feminine names from Lithuanian records,” Rebecca Lucas, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ffride/lithuanianwomenasmenv.html; unlike the others, it appears as being in the singular accusative case, rather than the nominative case; can something like it be attested as a nominative form, or will she need to choose one of the others? The Grodno region lies in western Belarus and Grodno itself was one of the oldest cities in historical Lithuania: it was first mentioned in the Chronicles of 1128 (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/info_history_of_grodno.htm). The client desires a female name and is most interested in the language/culture of Lithuania/Baltic or similar culture. The client is interested in it being authentic for language/culture or time period for Lithuanian/Baltid 14th-16th C.


The following appear in the August 2014 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:


Auðr Þorkelsdóttir (St. Felix): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Gules, a fox courant Or within a bordure compony azure and Or.

Closest (name) I see is Astrid Thorkelsdottir: This name was registered in November of 1999 (via Caid). (Provided I'm understanding the rules correctly)--Two syllables changed in the given name, and thus qualifies under SENA PN.3.C.1. (MHoAF)
I find no conflicts. The closest is: Gules, a greyhound courant to sinister within a bordure Or. [Jeanne Dyfrgi, LOAR 05/2009]. There's one difference per SENA A.5.G.3 (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5G3) for changing half the tincture of the bordure, and another per SENA A.5.G.7 (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5G7) for the critter being contourny. (Gs)

Columba de Palomares (Tir Ysgithr) BADGE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, June 2014: (Fieldless) On a dove volant bendwise argent a grenade bendwise sinister sable enflamed proper.

The name was registered December 2004.

The original submission, (Fieldless) On a dove volant bendwise argent a grenade bendwise inverted sable enflamed proper., was returned for a redraw: “The grenade here, as it is largely upon the bird, has been reblazoned as a tertiary charge, but it is not entirely contained within the boundaries of the bird. It cannot be reblazoned as an overall charge, as an overall charge by definition is largely on the field, whereas this grenade is "barely overall," itself cause for return. As it is not largely on the field, it really cannot be considered a maintained or sustained charge either. Finally, the overall design appears to be drawn with perspective, which is not heraldic style and is itself cause for return.”
The redrawing has been done such that the grenade it a true tertiary charge, lying completely upon the bird. Were the bird rotated 45 degrees counter-clockwise, so that the axis of the body it horizontal, it demonstrates that the bird is truly volant as well, so that it can be blazoned as volant bendwise without it being mistaken for being drawn in perspective.


Dubhchobhlaigh inghean Eoin uí Ealaighthe (Ered Sul): NEW HOUSEHOLD NAME, Short Straw Cart House, and NEW BADGE

(Fieldless) A mule passant contourny sable pulling a two-wheeled cart vert filled with straw Or.

Assuming it's a household name, why not name it after a person?
<Margret Short> christened 1566, England. Batch no. C14760-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ND4L-KX4)
<Williamus Straw> married 1572, England. Batch no. M02699-3 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXQ7-Q5B)
<Katherin Cart> married 1596, England. Batch no. M01168-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NV4X-V96)
Surnames can be used as given names in late-period English by precedent (see September 2012 cover letter: http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/09/12-09cl.html#5). And A Brief, Incomplete, and Rather Stopgap Article about European Household and Other Group Names Before 1600 by Sharon L. Krossa (http://medievalscotland.org/names/eurohouseholds/englandhouse.shtml) includes the pattern:
<specific reference to the individual who was head of household> hous. Therefore <Short Straw Card hous>? (fw)
This was a mistyping on OSCAR, and it should've been a household name. If using Krossa's article helps in the registration of the name, I'm fine with it. (MMM)
I see no conflicts (with the badge). I would stop at that inn. :) (MhoAF)

Lígach ingen Fáeláin Uí Laoghaire (Sundragon): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Argent, a compass rose azure and a ford proper, on a chief vert an arrow argent.

The name is Middle Irish Gaelic, all during the 10th C. Lígach dates 919-923, “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Lígach,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Ligach.shtml. Fáelán is a masculine given name, 923-1161, in“Index of Names in Irish Annals: Fáelán / Faolán,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Faelan.shtml; the genitive form is Fáeláin. (This might have to have the spelling adjusted.) Láegaire is a masculine given name, “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Láegaire,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Laegaire.shtml. Although the genitive form isn't listed, the Annal entry in the same citation shows B M924.4 Duineachaidh, mac Laoghaire, flaith Fear c-Ceall. The format for the name is <single given name> inghean <father's given name (in genitive case & always lenited unless starting with D, T, L, N, R, or a vowel)> <eponymous clan ancestor's name (in genitive case & always lenited unless starting with a vowel)>, according to “Quick and Easy Gaelic Names,” Sharon Krossa, http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/#patronymicwithclan. Ingen is usually seen prior to 1200.

The client is most interested in Middle Irish Gaelic and desires any changes which would make the name Middle Irish Gaelic.


Margherita da Ferrera (Mons Tonitrus): NAME RECONSIDERATION from Laurel June 2012 and DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel December 2011: Per pale purpure and vert, a sun and on a chief Or three bunches of grapes purpure leaved vert.

Looks clear, however, I must note that no documentation of the name was provided. Name documentation on the previous submission:
The spelling of the feminine given name Margherita is found in "Italian Renaissance Women's Names," Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale, http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/italian.html .
Da Ferrara, "of Ferrara," is a locative surname found in "Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names," Arval Benicoeur and Talan Gwynek ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/venice14sur.html#table ); Ferrara is about 50 miles southwest of Venice. (NOTE: This source is not on the "No Photocopy" list.) Construction of the nameonforms to Sena App. A. (MhoAF)I was unaware that elements of a name registered by the CoA and resubmitted for reconsideration, had to be documented as though from a new name. (MMM)

Nikolaus Gerhart (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Argent, a wing terminating in a hand maintaining a sword gules.

Nikolaus is dated 1451-1550 in “Late Period German Masculine Given Names,” Talan Gwynek, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/germmasc/. Gerhart is found in “German Names from Nürnberg, 1497,” Sara L. Uckelman, http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/nurnberg1497.html. The client desires a male name and is most interested in the meaning of the name (Nicholas is his legal given name).

What is the blazon for the device? It kind of looks like a cross between a winged man's arm and a winged scorpion tail. (VH) The blazon was accidentally omitted. (VH)
Blazon-fu: Argent, a winged fist maintaining a sword gules. Normally it's a winged eagle's claw, but this looks to me to be a human fist. (Gs) I like this blazon more. (MMM)

Stefan Jäger von Ansbach (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE: Paly bendy sinister argent and azure, an edelweiss blossom Or.

This is not paly bendy sinister. This is lozengy (or fusily) bendwise sinster. (AvM)But it probably OUGHT to be paly bendy sinister. I don't know that I've seen a field of this type that didn't align either to the pale or the fess. (Gs)
From the black and white version it's clear these aren't drawn as pales (It's not really paly as theres an uneven number of them) that are bent just slightly sinister. It could be: Bendy sinister argent and azure, two pales counterchanged and overall an edelweiss blossom Or. I think. But the pales would need to be straight up and down, not canted like that.(VA)
The field was redrawn to match the paly bendy sinister rendition found on his registered device; that is a true Paly bend sinister... (MMM)

Roberto Raimondo of Mons Tonitrus (Mons Tonitrus): NAME RECONSIDERATION from Holding Name Roberto Raimondo of Mons Tonitrus, June 1998


Thomas de Lacy (Mons Tonitrus): NEW BADGE: (Fieldless) A Lacy knot Or within and conjoined to a mascle of two arrows inverted and two swords vert.

I don't know that I necessarily buy this as a mascle. Mascles don't have bits projecting from the corners. Is it grandfathered to him if it was registered to his father? (VA) Bertand's badge was registered in July 2005 with the above blazon, without comment. (MMM)
Would this also possibly count as slot machine? You have swords, arrows and a knot. (VA)
To have slot machine, you must have three TYPES of charges in ONE CHARGE GROUP. I think we can say that the green things are in a different charge group than the knot.
However, this has unity problems under SENA A.3.D.2.c (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A3D2c). It wouldn't be too bad of this was four arrows or four swords, but this submission has is two arrows inverted in saltire fretted with two swords in saltire vert, which is not a mascle and can't be described except as two sets of things in saltire smooshed together.
Since his father is deceased, the executor of the estate (possibly his mom) should be able to release these arms directly to the son, who may now bear them undifferenced. (Gs) The client doesn't want to bear his father's armory (this is a badge), because his father was one of the most well-known and admired people in his local group, a champion of archery skill and arts. (MMM)
I'm not sure I buy this as a mascle either, as opposed to just four things playing pickup sticks. If for whatever reason he doesn't want to inherit the badge as suggested, would the client consider it with just the arrows and the knot? That should, to my eye, be doable as something like "(Fieldless) Beneath and conjoined to two arrows inverted gules, a Lacy knot Or" or "(Fieldless) A Lacy knot Or beneath and conjoined to two arrows inverted gules." (ST)

The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, June 2014 (Part 1 Estrella Submissions):

Áine inghean Uí Cheallaigh. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Alexander de Burdegala. Device. Per pale purpure and vert, a wild man's face argent and on a chief wavy Or three goblets gules.
Alfred Jensen of Mo. Badge. Argent, a hatchet and a spear head crossed in saltire, in base a dagger gules.
Allesia de Canaberiis. Device. Per chevron wavy Or and gules, two otters couchant respectant in chevron sable and an edelweiss blossom argent.
Anastacia Blackmore. Name.
Andrew mac Bran of Antrim. Name.
The submitter has permission to use elements from his legal father's registered name, Bran mac Padraig of Antrim, but not permission for the relationship conflict (making the claim that Bran is his father). However, as he is not using his father's full name, it does not create a relationship conflict; thus, we do not need that permission. The grandfather clause permission was also unnecessary, as all elements could be documented in Anglicized Irish.
Atenveldt, Barony of. Order name Order of the Argent Arrow of the Barony of Atenveldt and badge. Gules, two palm trees couped trunks crossed in saltire, in chief a crescent-headed arrow fesswise argent.
The use of the phrase of the Barony of Atenveldt in order names is grandfathered to the submitter.
Atenveldt, Barony of. Order name change to Order of the Gules Hurlebatte of the Barony of Atenveldt from Order of the Red Hurlebatte. The Letter of Intent included a request to retain the previous order name, Order of the Red Hurlebatte, with an authorization to release it if it could not be retained. Although the barony is able to retain the order name, it was confirmed that the barony would like to release it upon acceptance of the present submission.
Order of the Red Hurlebatte is released.
The use of the phrase of the Barony of Atenveldt in order names is grandfathered to the submitter.
Aviva Dumas. Name.
This name combines an Iberian Jewish name with a Spanish byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.
Broccán Ó Stiamhna. Name and device. Or, on a pale sable three eagles Or.
Submitted as Broccán O' Stiamna, the byname O' Stiamna combines the Anglicized Irish O' with the constructed Middle Irish Gaelic Stiamna in the same name phrase, a violation of SENA PN.1.B.1. Kingdom changed the name to Broccán ua Staimna to try to construct the name entirely in Middle Irish Gaelic, but in doing so introduced a typographical error.Commenters also noted that the article cited in the Letter of Intent did not support the spelling Stiamna in Middle Irish patronymic bynames. A Middle Irish form of the byname is ua Steimni. In order to keep the name as close as possible to what was submitted, we have changed the name to the Early Modern Irish Gaelic Broccán Ó Stiamhna in order to register the name.
Broccán is the standardized form of a saint's name found in martyrologies from the gray period.
The submitter has permission to conflict with the device of Saito Takauji, Or, on a pale sable three cherry blossoms Or. Nice device!

Catharin Syl'vestrova. Name.
Submitted as Cathryn Sylvestrova, the name was changed in kingdom with the submitter's permission to Catharin Sylvestrova in order to match the documentation they could find. Sylvestrova is a constructed byname, but the spelling is not documented. It is derived from a hypothetical alternate spelling of Wickenden's header form Silvestr. No evidence was presented nor could any be found that y was an alternate transcription for the character written here as i. Additionally, in commentary, Elmet and Goutte d'Eau pointed out that Silvestr is not a dated form. All dated forms have a vowel or the soft sign between l and v. They were able to construct a spelling, Syl'vestrova, close to the submitted form as a plausible transliteration of a Ukrainian name. We have changed the byname to this spelling in order to register the name.
This name combines a Slovakian given name and Ukrainian byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.
Conrad Bombast von Trittenheim. Name change from Mstislav syn Volui.
In commentary, Eastern Crown (now Blue Tyger) was able to document the spelling of the locative Trittenheim in a source dated 1646. The submitter's previous name, Mstislav syn Volui, is released.
Dawn Greenwall. Name.
Deletha of Anandyrdale. Badge. Or, a squirrel rampant vert and a bordure embattled sable.
Elizabeth Clough. Name and device. Azure, a lion's head cabossed argent and a chief ermine.
Nice 13th century English name!
Finán mac Tigernaig. Name and device. Vert, a cock's head erased contourny Or, an orle argent.
Grigor Medvedev. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Ilandria Brin. Device. Sable, in pale three triquetras Or, a bordure compony azure and argent.
Jacqueline du Bosc. Name and device. Gules, a cross checky sable and argent between four hearts argent.
Jacqueline was documented on the Letter of Intent as the submitter's legal given name, and du Bosc as the byname of her mother and sister. Eastern Crown (now Blue Tyger) was able to document the given name and byname to France in 1593-4. Therefore, the submitter does not need to rely on either the legal name allowance or grandfather clause. Nice late 16th century French name!
Nice device!
Juliette Dashwood. Device change. Per bend argent and purpure, a quail contourny sable, a bordure counterchanged.
Her previous device, Per chevron throughout Or and purpure, two balls of yarn azure and a Lacy knot argent, is retained as a badge.
Kassah bint Badr. Reblazon of device. Per chevron inverted azure and purpure, a chevron inverted vert fimbriated and in chief a crescent argent.
Blazoned when registered in February 2002 as Per chevon inverted azure and purpure, a chevron inverted vert fimbriated and in chief a crescent argent, we are correcting the typo of per chevron.

Kathleen of Anandyrdale. Name.
Lena da Siena. Name.
Submitted as Lena d'Siena, the preposition de only elides to d' when preceding a vowel. We have changed the byname to the most common form appropriate for northern Italy, da Siena. The forms de Siena and di Siena would also be registerable.
Lucian Lenoir. Name and device. Per fess Or and purpure, in pale a jester's cap conjoined to a mask of comedy, a bordure indented counterchanged.
Mercurio da Spin. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Miguel Alejandro Mendoza. Name and device. Per pale gules and argent, a vol per pale argent and sable and in chief a sheaf of arrows inverted sable.
This device is not in conflict with the device of Peregrin the Lost, reblazoned elsewhere on this letter as Argent, a vol gules and in chief a sheaf of arrows inverted sable. There is a DC for the change in field, and a DC for the change in tincture of the primary charge.
Ophelia le Fayre. Name.
The submitted spelling Ophelia was only documented using an I batch within FamilySearch. I batches are not suitable as the sole documentation for a name element. Withycombe, s.n. Ophelia, notes that an Ophelia Marchant of Bath married John Rickman (born 1587). After the Pelican decision meeting, Siren was able to date this marriage to 1610 (hive.org/stream/myancestors00penn/#page/n11/mode/2up, pp. 42 and 65). The date of the marriage and the appearance of the variant spelling Ophalia well before 1600 makes it implausible that the name only came into use after its appearance in Hamlet. Therefore, the submitted name can be registered.
Otto Umble. Name and device. Argent, on a bend cotised sable four fleurs-de-lys argent.
Nice device!
Pelleas of Crete. Device. Erminois, a ram's head cabossed vert.
Raynagh O Tymonie. Name and device. Per pale azure and argent, a butterfly counterchanged.
Nice device!
Roan of Ered Sul. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Azure, a seal erect and issuant from chief a demi-sun argent eclipsed sable.
Submitted under the name Roan Feórna.
Roland Moreau. Name and device. Per saltire azure and sable, in pale two lyres and in fess two swords argent.
Roswitha von Wolfsfeldt. Name and device. Per fess Or and sable, a rose gules and a wolf's head cabossed argent.
Nice cant!
Sayyid ibn Tariq al-Muhibb. Name.
Segardus de Roma. Name.
Shannon inghean uí Bhríain. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Submitted as Shannon inghean uí Bríáin, the name appeared on the Letter of Intent as Shannon inghean Uí Bríáín. As capitalization varies in period, we are able to restore the submitted particle to inghean uí. However, the accents in the byname need to be correct, and the patronym needs to be lenited. Therefore, we have changed the name to Shannon inghean uí Bhain in order to register the name.
Shannon is the submitter's legal given name.
Thora Thumb Dragon. Device. Per pale vert and sable, a polypus within an orle of skulls Or.
Tiberius Artorius Lupus. Name and device. Or, three wolf's heads erased one and two sable.
Submitted as Tiberius Artorius Lupus, the name appeared on the Letter of Intent as Tiberus Artorius Lupus. Blue Tyger was able to document Tiberius as a praenomen, so we are able to restore the spelling to the submitted form.
Nice device!
Tomas de Leon. Name and device. Quarterly gules and sable, a spider Or.
Nice late 15th century Spanish name!
Úlfr vafri. Device. Argent, a wolf's head cabossed bendwise gules maintaining in its mouth a sword the blade enflamed Or.
Please advise the submitter to draw the flames less like leaves.
Wilhelm Tepes. Name.
The question was raised in the Letter of Intent whether the byname Tepes could be registered, as it purportedly has the same meaning as another form previously ruled to be offensive and not registerable:
It was the consensus of the commentary in the College that the byname "Tsepesh", which means "Impaler" and is associated with Vlad the Impaler, prototype for the Dracula legend, is offensive in itself, offensive in its association with Vlad/Dracula and should not be registered. [Dmitri Yaroslavich Tsepesh, 12/1987, R-Caid]
As Tepes is a modern Anglicized form of Vlad's nickname, it would also fall under this precedent. However, Vlad's reputation is mostly based on propaganda written by his enemies. He was lauded in his lifetime for his wars against the Ottoman empire, and even today is considered to be a national hero in Romania. His purported actions are certainly no worse than many other rulers in our period. Therefore, we do not find that forms of the byname "the Impaler" are inherently offensive or offensive due to the association with Vlad, and we are overturning this precedent.
Kolosvari Arpadne Julia and Palotzi Marta noted that Tepes does not actually mean "impaler", despite the modern English usage. It is used as a byname (in various spellings) by normal people in Wallachia, Germany, and Hungary, and appears to be a diminutive of the name Tepe (at least in Hungarian), not a nickname.
As documented in the Letter of Intent, this name combines a vernacular German given name and Wallachian/Romanian byname. The question was raised whether this combination is allowed under Appendix C of SENA. As Tepes was also documented in commentary as a German surname, this can be registered as an entirely German name. We decline to rule whether German-Wallachian/Romanian is a acceptable lingual mix.

The following submissions were returned for further work, May 2014:

Áine inghean Uí Cheallaigh. Device. Per chevron azure and argent, two owls respectant argent and a tree eradicated azure trunked sable.
This device is returned for a redraw, for violating the guidelines set forth on the May 2011 Cover Letter for a properly drawn per chevron field division; the field division here is too high. Please see that Cover Letter for further discussion and details of how to properly draw per chevron lines of division.

Columba de Palomares. Badge. (Fieldless) On a dove volant bendwise argent a grenade bendwise inverted sable enflamed proper. This device is returned for redraw. The grenade here, as it is largely upon the bird, has been reblazoned as a tertiary charge, but it is not entirely contained within the boundaries of the bird. It cannot be reblazoned as an overall charge, as an overall charge by definition is largely on the field, whereas this grenade is "barely overall," itself cause for return. As it is not largely on the field, it really cannot be considered a maintained or sustained charge either. Finally, the overall design appears to be drawn with perspective, which is not heraldic style and is itself cause for return.
Grigor Medvedev. Device. Azure, two bears combattant Or and on a chief argent a Latin cross between two mullets of eight points gules. This device is returned for violating our protection of the Red Cross, "the use of a red straight armed cross with flat, couped ends to the arms on any white background, or in any way that could be displayed on a white background, including as a tertiary charge, even if some of the arms are elongated so that it is not blazonable exactly as a cross couped gules." [Thomas der Kreuzfahrer, R-Middle, January 2009 LoAR]
Mercurio da Spin. Device. Per saltire sable and argent, four bats counterchanged.
This device is returned for conflict with the device of Andrew of Elm Cottage, Per saltire argent and sable, four bats displayed counterchanged. There is a DC for the change of field, but nothing for the forced change of arrangement of the bats.
Roan Feórna. Name.
The Gaelic given name Roan has previously been ruled to be unregisterable: Submitted as Roan Mac Raith, Roan was documented from a translation of "a long geneology listed on pages 136-139 of The History of Ireland by Geoffrey Keating D.D. Volume II, The first book of the history from sect. XV to the end, edited with a translation and notes by Rev. Patrick S. Dinneen, M.A. London, published for the Irish texts society by David Nutt, 1908."...The person mentioned in the cited genealogy appears in the "Annals of the Four Masters", vol. 1, (http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G100005A/) in the byname on Rotheachtaigh, mic Roain in entry M4170.1. This entry number indicates that the date referenced in this entry is approximately 4170 B.C., putting this reference well into legend rather than history. As no other evidence was found for Roan, it is not registerable. [Rónán Mac Raith, September 2002, A-Outlands]
The current submission documented this element as a character in a story about Saint Patrick. Under the literary name allowance (PN.1.B.2.d.2 of SENA), characters in lives of saints (who are not saints themselves) are only registerable if we have further evidence to show that such names were borrowed and used by ordinary people of that time and place. As we have no further documentation to justify this name in period, Roan is still not registerable as a Gaelic given name.
Commenters were able to document Roan as a given name in late period Prussia and Norway, and as a late period English given name derived from a surname (FamilySearch Historical Records). There is also a similar 13th century English given name, Roana (Talan Gwynek, "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames"; http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/). However, none of these instances is compatible with an 8th century Gaelic byname under Appendix C of SENA.
Her device has been registered under the holding name Roan of Ered Sul.
Robert Heinrich and Annya Sergeeva. Joint badge. (Fieldless) An estoile Or.
This badge is returned for conflict with the device of Thomas Loxley, Per pale azure and gules, an estoile Or. There is a DC for fieldlessness, but nothing else.
Shannon inghean uí Bhríain. Device. Argent, on a bend embowed to base vert, a triquetra between two four-leafed clovers all palewise Or.
This device is returned for presenting no evidence that embowing an ordinary to base is something that was done in period heraldry.
Shannon inghean uí Bhríain. Badge. Argent, on a bend embowed to base vert a four-leafed clover palewise Or.
This badge is returned for presenting no evidence that embowing an ordinary to base is something that was done in period heraldry.
Yehoshua ben Abraam. Device. Or, two pea-vines fructed and entwined about a stake, on a chief vert three stars of David two and one Or.
This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." While the plant here is obviously a vine, without leaves it is not readily identifiable as a pea-vine; similarly, it is impossible to tell that there are two vines, as opposed to merely one plant. We suggest the submitter consider just a single pea plant. Pea plants in period armory show both leaves and pods. This device is also returned for the placement of the stars of David upon the chief; a chief is too narrow for most charges to be in a two-and-one arrangement, and no evidence was presented of three charges on a chief arranged two-and-one in period armory.

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