COLLEGE OF HERALDS
20 February 2018,
OF PRESENTATION Kingdom
Their Royal Majesties Marek and Golda; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten
Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to
All Whom These Presents Come,
from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium
Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!
is the February 2018, Part II Atenveldt Letter of
Presentation. The March Letter of Presentation will likely have a LOT
of submissions from the Estrella War Consultation Table. (And I
don't want to mix up War with non-War items if I can help it.)
The following submissions appear in the February 2018
Letter of Intent:
was provided by Coblaith Muimnech, ffride wlffsdotter, Lyn of
Whitewolfe, Magnus von Lübeck, Michael Gerard Curtememoire and
Tonitrus): NEW NAME
The name is Irish Gaelic. Áine
is a Middle Irish Gaelic and Early Modern Irish Gaelic female given
name, dated 1169 through 1468 (“Index of Names in Irish Annals:
Áine,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan,
is found in “16th & 17th Century Anglicized Irish Surnames from
Woulfe,” Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada, p. 628 with the Gaelic
Raghailligh, and Ó
the standard way to form a name using an Irish clan affiliation
byname for women (“Quick and Easy Gaelic Names” 3rd Edition,
Sharon L. Krossa,
client desires a female name and is most interest in the spelling and
language/culture of the name (Irish, Gaelic). She will not accept
Major Changes to the name. Upon consultaton, the client gave
permission for the construction of the name to be corrected.
and Easy Gaelic Names
says: "The standard way to form a name using an Irish clan
affiliation byname for women is: <single given name> inghean
Uí <eponymous clan ancestor's name (in genitive case & always
lenited unless starting with a vowel)> which means <given name>
daughter of a male descendant <of eponymous clan ancestor> For
example, Dearbhorgaill who is the daughter of Fearchar Ó Conchobhair
would be: Dearbhorgaill inghean Uí Chonchobhair.” And Index
of Names in Irish Annals: Failghe
by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan has:
Failghe mac Mhaol Mhórdha Uí
died 1512. She believes (and I concur) that the name should be Áine
inghean Uí Raghallaigh.
I think that the submitted name ends up with two (identical)
Ánsson and Æsa ongull (Ered Sul, BoA): BADGE RESUBMISION
from Laurel, November 2015.
bend sinister gules scaly and argent semy of escallops inverted
names were registered February 2006 and July 2009.
submission was an appeal for a badge, Gules scaly argent., was
“returned for conflict with the device of Antonius Hasebroek:
Gules scaly Or. The underlying field tincture is the same and
there is only one DC for changing the tincture of the scales. At the
time the current precedent on field only armory with field treatments
like scaly was set in February, 2012, Laurel declined to rule on
whether or not two fields of identical underlying tinctures with the
same type of field treatments in different tinctures are clear of
conflict or not. At this time we are ruling that, if two field
primary pieces of armory share the same field treatment and an
identical underlying tincture, the fields do not differ by a
substantial change of tincture and, absent an additional change
(e.g., for the presence of a peripheral charge) will conflict.” I
think the blazon might require some enhancement, Per bend sinister
gules scaly argent, and argent, semy..., to
assure that the scales won't have escallops upon them.
Emelyn Fraser (BoA): BADGE
RESUBMISSION for Stonegard Keep, September 2015
Argent, a man-tyger sejant
erect within a bordure embattled sable.
The client's name was registered
April 2014. The household name was registered September 2015.
previous submission, (Fieldless) A bat-winged lion with a
human head sejant erect sable face argent., was
returned for conflict with the badge of Lijsbet vande
Visschereye: Per pale Or and argent, a winged lion rampant
guardant sable. There is one DC for fieldlessness but no DC for
the type of wings, no DC between the postures and no difference
granted for changing the head. Although there would be a DC between a
winged lion and a sphinx, it relies on the fact that both are period
charges. The charge here is not a sphinx but a bat-winged lion: it
lacks both breasts and bird wings.”
The man-tyger is a monster
with a leonine body and a human head; the Pictorial Dictionary
notes that “sometimes the feet have been replaced by human hands.”,
which is not the case here. The client has chosen to use the
man-tyger so as not to have to use the scorpion tail that is
associated with a manticore.
RESUBMISSION from Laurel, November 2017
pale sable and argent, a sun eclipsed between in bend two
name was registered November 2017.
The previous submission,
Per pale sable and argent, a sun eclipsed between in bend two
broad-arrows, that in base inverted, counterchanged.,
was returned “for violation of SENA A3D2c, which requires that
charges in the same group be in a unified orientation. The two
broad-arrows in this submission are placed in bend, with one upright
and the other inverted. These orientations must be blazoned
individually, rather than being in an identical
orientation (either upright or inverted) or a complementary
orientation (points to center/outward). If evidence could be found of
such a design in period, it could of course be registered.” The
client has chosen to place the broad-arrows in the same orientation.
(BoA): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, July 2017
a catamount rampant argent enflamed proper, a bordure ermine.
name was registered October 2017.
The previous submission, Vert,
a catamount rampant gardant argent, fimbriated with flames proper, a
bordure ermine., was
returned because such
of flames has been prohibited for a long time. The client has changed
the flames to be enflamed in an acceptable manner.
Mar: NEW DEVICE
Per bend sinister azure mullety Or and
vert, in sinister base a scorpion inverted bendwise sinister Or.
name was registered July 2017.
NEW NAME and DEVICE
a fist and a bordure rayonny Or.
is found as an English male given name as Lucius Deringe, with a
marriage date 22 Sep 1578 in Wolborough and Newgon Abbor, Devon,
England (Batch M05188-1,
The surname James
can be found with Gwilliam James' christening date of 02 Sep 1554 at
St. Thomas', Newport, Hampshire, England,
client desires a male name and is most interested in the
language/culture of the name (English). He would like it authentic
were some issues in in-Kingdom commentary with the size of the shield
and the depiction of the rayonny bordure; they have been dealt with.
a demi-panther argent spotted sable and incensed gules, maintaining a
cross formy argent.
name was registered June 1973.
Nudd McPherson: NEW NAME
CHANGE from Ian Nudd MacPherson
current name was registered December 1989, before the College of Arms
allowed English surnames permitted as given names in late period. The
client registered the given name Ian at the time to comply
with the rules, but his preference has always been to be known at
George Nudd is shown with a marriage date of
1582 to Margaret Feild at Yelverton, Norfolk, England, Batch M09677-1
Dowgall McPherson is shown with a 16 Sep 1649 marriage date at
Kenmore, Perth, Scotland, Batch M11360-2
The client desires a male name; he will not accept any Major or
Minor changes to the name. Upon further consultation, he will accept
changes to the name.
wlffsdotter notes in the May 2017 LoAR says for the registeration of
Keviliock MacKinley: "Submitted as Keviliock McKinley, Mc is a
scribal abbreviation for Mac. By precedent, "both Mc and M' will
be expanded to Mac for registration purposes. Individuals with names
expanded to Mac should of course feel free to use abbreviated forms
like Mc and M' as documentary forms of their name." [September
2013 Cover Letter] We therefore have expanded the byname to MacKinley
Upon further consultation, the client will allow the surname as
needed to register the name change.
Ysgithr, Barony of:
NEW ORDER NAME,
Order of the Ffrind of Ysgithr
name is Welsh. Ffrind
is Welsh for “friend”; it is found in English
Elements in Welsh,
T. H. Parry-Williams, p. 125. The name for the Barony of Tir Ysgithr
was registered in January 1973. If this is registered, it should be
associated with the badge (Fieldless)
A maunch Or charged with a boar's head couped contourny sable.,
registered to the Barony in August 2017.
Muimnech mentioned several ways to establish that a name phrase is
suitable for inclusion in a registered order name
attested to period as a complete name phrase,
b) constructed from
attested period name elements,
c) an ordinary English translation
of an attested or plausibly constructed name phrase,
from linguistically appropriate literary or legendary sources in a
manner consistent with the attested practices of a specific culture
in a discrete period,
e) extracted from a submitter's legal
f) a registered branch name, or
g) already registered
to the submitter.
It will be necessary to establish which of these
options applies to the submitted substantive phrase "Ffrind of
Ysgithr". (I see nothing in Juliana de Luna's Medieval
Secular Order Names
that would support "friend of [place name]" as a pattern.)
Additionally, a name phrase in a non-personal name, ". .
.may not mix languages unless that mixing of languages within a name
phrase is attested." (ibid) So it will also be necessary to show
that the mixing of English and Welsh is attested in whichever context
is demonstrably appropriate for the phrase "Ffrind of
Gerard Curtememoire: “Does
this not fall under http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#NPN1C2f,
"Branch Name Allowance"?”
von Lübeck replied: “I
believe it would have to be Tir Ysgithr rather than Ysgithr to get
The registered name of the Barony is Tir
Ysgithr. This will be corrected in the LoI. I'm not sure how the
appropriate name phrase should be for the order name (my wild guess
is (c) and (f)), so I will try to explain the rationale for the order
to the CoA in the LoI.
following submission were registered by the SCA College of Arms,
Elizabeth Sutherland. Device change. Per chevron purpure and
argent, two natural dolphins haurient respectant argent and a
The submitter's previous device, Purpure,
on a pile inverted between two natural dolphins haurient respectant
argent, a mullet sable, reblazoned below, is retained as a badge.
Finola Elizabeth Sutherland.
Reblazon of badge. Per chevron purpure and argent, two natural
dolphins haurient respectant argent and a mullet sable.
when registered as Purpure, on a pile inverted between two natural
dolphins haurient respectant argent, a mullet sable, this field
is better described as Per chevron purpure and argent.
Laurence Dubosc. Name and device. Quarterly gules and purpure,
a cross counter-compony sable and argent between in chief two lions
couchant addorsed regardant Or.
Submitted as Jeffroie
Laurence Du Bosc, no evidence could be found
supporting the submitted spelling of the given name in period. The
several instances of Jeffroie that can be found online are
entirely modernized spellings. However, the spelling Jeffroi
is found in the 14th century chanson de geste La destruction de
Rome. We have made this change for registration.
the documentation shows the surname as Dubosc,
not the submitted Du Bosc. We have
changed the surname to match the documentation.
requested authenticity for "11th C. Norman." This name does
not meet that request because the name elements cannot be dated as
early as the 11th century. For example, the earliest attested date
for the submitted spelling of the surname is 1500. In addition, the
spelling Laurence is not found in French until the 16th
century. Nevertheless, this is a registerable French name.
de Venetia. Device change. Argent, a butterfly azure, a
bordure azure semy of hearts argent. Her previous device, Per
bend argent and gules, a swan sable and a sword inverted Or, is
retained as a badge.
the Just. Alternate name Just Mark and badge.
Sable, a hanging balance and a chief embattled argent.
is an attested 16th century English given name found in the
FamilySearch Historical Records.
Oroz. Name and device. Quarterly vert and azure, a cross
nebuly argent, overall a camel rampant Or.
Rebeka Orosz, the submitter requested
authenticity for Hungarian language and culture. To meet this
request, with the submitter's permission, we have changed the name to
Rebeka Oroz, an authentic Latinized Hungarian
name for circa 1300.
ibn al-Makhdoom. Name and device. Sable, a demon's skull and
on a chief argent three demon's skulls gules.
the submitter's legal given name.
Submitted as Rhys _ Makhdoom,
Makhdoom or Makhdum is an Arabic title originally used
by Sufi masters and teachers but now also used by Pakistani
politicians and officials. We found no evidence of its being used as
a name element within the SCA's period. However, we were able to
construct a family name from this title in the form ibn
al-Makhdoom based on the patterns found in "Son
of the Hot-Tempered Woman: Women's Names in Arabic Bynames" by
Juliana de Luna (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/ArabicMatronymics/).
With the submitter's permission, we have changed the name to Rhys
ibn al-Makhdoom for registration.
the defining instance of a demon's skull in Society armory. While
demons are no longer acceptable as charges, per the Cover Letter of
Aug 2011, demon's heads are still registerable - as recently as Feb
2012, in the device of Marek Viachedrago - from which this is a
single step. A demon's skull is here defined to be a human skull with
horns; fangs are optional. We will grant them no difference from
unmodified human skulls.
Gleny. Name change from Seán an Gleanna.
In 2008, under the
old Rules for Submissions, we ruled that Seán Glenny
conflicted with the submitter's legal name and thus could not be
registered. Under SENA, however, Sean Gleny is clear of his
legal name under PN3C3.
Although familiar to most people as a
Gaelic name, the submitter may be interested to know that Sean
is also an Anglicized Irish male name found in "Names Found in
Anglicized Irish Documents" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada
dated to 1601. In either form, Sean can be combined with the
The submitter's previous name, Seán an
Gleanna, is retained as an alternate name.
at Rauðá. Name and device. Per fess gules and argent semy of
shears, a fess wavy sable and in chief a fish Or.
as Solveig frá Rauðá,
diacritical markings in Old Norse names must be used or omitted
consistently throughout. Therefore, the given name has been changed
is not used when forming a byname based on the name of a river, such
as Rauðá. As Gunnvor Orle explained in commentary, at,
meaning "by the side of," is the attested preposition in
bynames based on river names. Therefore, we have changed the name to
Sólveig at Rauðá.
Proietto di Venezia. Name.
On the July 2017 Letter of
Acceptances and Returns, we returned the submitter's original name
Valeas Proietto di Venezia because we found no evidence of
Valeas as a name element. However, "[h]eralds at the
Pelican decision meeting were able to document both Valens and
Valerius as given names compatible with the remainder of the
name." At the time, the submitter allowed no changes. On this
resubmission, the submitter selected Valerius, a classical
name revived in 16th century Germany and found in Italian literature
from the Renaissance onwards.
following submissions were returned for further work, December 2017:
de Westminster and Lachlann Dougal Graeme. Joint
Three chevronels couped and braced counterermine.
device is returned for redraw. Commenters could not recognize the
presence of the ermine spots. Upon resubmission, the submitter is
encouraged to draw thicker chevrons and larger ermine spots.
Ultaig. Device. Gules,
a bend sinister bevilled between a wolf's head couped contourny and a
sinister hand fesswise reversed couped sustaining an axe reversed
device is returned for violation of SENA A2C3, which disallows the
blurring of charge groups. Commenters could not determine whether the
hand and axe were of sufficiently similar visual weight to be
considered co-equal charges, or whether the hand was small enough to
be considered a maintained charge.
the charges are considered co-secondaries, this device must also be
returned for violation of SENA A3D2a, which disallows more than two
types of charge in the same charge group.
is a step from period practice for use of a bend sinister bevilled
with other charges directly on the field.
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