Kingdom of Atenveldt
Heraldic Submissions Page
(administered by the Brickbat Herald)
Unto Their Royal Majesties Cosmo Craven and Elzbieta; Master Seamus, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come, Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!
This is the March 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. It precedes the external Letter of Intent that will contain the following submissions that are presented here, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. Where there any submissions this month, know that I accept online commentary, in addition to questions pertaining to heraldry and consultation. You can send commentary to me privately at brickbat@nexiliscom.com or join “Atenveldt Submissions Commentary” at Yahoo! Groups ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atenveldt_Submissions_Commentary/ ) and post there. (Commentary is often posted in the next month's Letter of Presentation so that all may learn from it, and we can see how additional documentation or comments may have influenced a submission. Please don't be shy!) Please have commentary to me for the submissions under consideration for the March 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Intent by 10 March 2012. Thanks!
Heraldry Hut: There are two Heraldry Huts in March (hoping to expedite those clients from Tir Ysgithr who might otherwise be thinking of coming to the Estrella War Consultation Table – some of our most dependable heralds will not be able to attend the War, or only come for a day or two). The next Heraldry Hut will be held Friday, 2 March, and the last one before the War on Friday, 16 March. For more information, directions, etc., please contact me at your convenience ( brickbat@nexiliscom.com ).
Estrella War XXVII: Okay, here's the Big News of the month: Estrella War XXVII. The War returns to Schenpf Farms, Queen Creek, AZ, 26 March-1 April 2012. Heralds' Point will be at the west end of Merchant’s Row, behind the food merchants. It will be located next to The Watch and Chiurgeons' Point. A very brief run-down of the services offered at Heralds' Point this year: Town Criers: make vocal cries mid-morning and mid-afternoon Wednesday-Sunday. The Herald's Cry Newspaper: published once daily Wednesday-Sunday. Heraldic Consultation: yep, kids, this is the big one (at least for Submissions Heralds). The Table will be open Wednesday-Sunday 10:00AM-5:00 PM. (The last sign-up for consultation will be 4:00 PM daily so we can be on our way by 5.) On Sunday, consultation will be by appointment only – if your clients are going to wait until Sunday to consult, they'll need to drop by the table sometime during the week and sign up (there's nothing like a just about falling asleep on Sunday afternoon at 3:45 to have a bunch of people stampede in and want to consult because they've finally run out of everything else “fun” to do). Volunteers for Town Criers, producing The Herald's Voice and serving as Page Corps Runners to get announcements posted throughout the site are needed. What we will need for Heraldic Consultation, due to folks' weird schedules and the shift in the War times, is armorial and onomastics heralds at the Consultation Table. You don't need to be very experienced, only willing to listen and learn. (The more practical skills include assisting with greeting/sign in, running errands, drawing (particularly if you're blessed with that skill), completing paperwork and expediting submissions during the open hours of the Table. If you have questions about Herald’s Point, or wish to volunteer to assist at Herald’s Point at Estrella War, please contact Master Seamus McDaid, Aten Principal Herald and Heralds' Point Coordinator, at Heralds' Point.
Known World Heralds' Pot Luck Social: There will be a Pot-Luck Social on Friday evening at the War, beginning at 7:00 PM. This will be at Herald Point and All Heralds are Welcome! Come and meet other Herald’s both in Atenveldt and from around the Known World! Bring your own goodies and something to share. Eat, drink, be merry!
Again, we're in need of “book heralds” of all skills. We've always done fabulously well at Estrella, no matter the weather (mostly) and the attendance, and even if we might initially be a wee bit short on assistance this year, I think everyone will step up to the plate and make this another Table that will have people talking about how they got their submissions in with a minimum of fuss and bother.
Speaking of submissions: I accept direct-to-Kingdom submissions from heraldic clients; this might not be the most favorable route to take, particularly if a group has a territorial herald, and everyone can stay more in the “submission loop” if a submission is made in this fashion. However, in some cases, this is the only reasonable and timely way for a submission to be made. Local heralds need to send submissions on in a timely manner as well (i.e., within one month of receiving a submissions packet). If you cannot connect with me at an event (very likely) or attend Heraldry Hut, submissions need to be mailed within one month (yes, that's important!) of a local herald receiving them, unless there is a reason for return at the local level. My address: Linda Miku, 2527 E. 3rd Street, Tucson AZ 85716.
Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site. Please let your local populace know about the site, too: atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com.
Please consider the following submissions for the March 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:
Christopher ap Odde (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and device Agent, two candles azure and gules in candlesticks sable crossed in saltire, a bordure sable mullety argent. Christopher is the client's legal given name. It is also a common English given name (the Latin form Christopherus is found in Curia Rolls 1201-3, 1220, according to Withycombe, 3rd edition, pp. 65-6 s.n. Christopher). Odde is a masculine given name with this spelling dated to 1273 (Withycombe, 3rd edition, p. 231 s.n. Odo). I'm not quite sure how the Welsh particle ap, “son of” fits in. Would it be permitted, as there is no step from period practice for English and Welsh name elements (an Englishman and his family relocated to Wales)? The unmarked patronym Odde is seen in the name of Richard Odde 1225 in Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, p. 327 s.n. Odd,Odde.
Josep Mülich (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW BADGE Per bend vert and argent, a cross formy counterchanged. The name was registered June 2010.
Kara Hanadottir (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE Vert, a calla lily sustained in pale by an eagle's talon and a gore sinister argent. The name is Old Norse, with elements found in the Viking Answer Lady webpage ( www.vikinganswerlady.com ). Kára is a feminine given name, found in Geirr Bassi, “The Old Norse Name,” p. 12. Hani is a masculine given name in Old Danish (it's a byname in Old Western Norse and a byname in Old Swedish as Hane). The patronym construction follows the pattern of -i --> -a, so this becomes Hanadottir. The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound of the name; she will not accept Major changes to the name.
Ségán Ó Catháin (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE Purpure, a triquetra inverted and in chief an annulet argent. The name was registered December 2009. Consider Morgaine MacDaniel de la Rose, badge: Purpure, a triquetra inverted argent.
The following submissions appear in the February 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Intent: This month's commentary was provided by Aryanhwy merch Catmael [AmC], Gunnvör silfrahárr [Gs], Helena de Argentoune [HdA], Seamus mac Raian [SmR] and Marta [MMM].
Adelaide of Alyngton (Twin Moons): NEW NAME Adelaide of Alyngton - Neither the Withycombe citation nor the R&W one are sufficient -- the first only demonstrates <Adelaide> as a modern name, and the second doesn't document the spelling <Adelaide>. [However,]The cited registration from 04/2011 provided documentation for this spelling in period: "<Adelaide> appears at p. 224 in "Sommaire de l'histoire des François" by Nicolas Vignier published in 1579 ( http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k123210f/f249" ). The combination of French and English is not a SFPP. No conflicts found. [AmC]
Aida Ysabella Lacarra de Navarra (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME No conflicts found. [AmC]
Caoilfhionn inghean ui Maoil Ruanaidh (Mons Tonitrus): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, December 2011: Azure, a half-moon knife argent handled of wood proper and a chief Or engrailed azure. The name was registered December 2011. The original submission, Or, a half-moon knife argent handled of wood proper and a chief engrailed azure. was returned “because as the half-moon knife, being predominantly argent, does not have good contrast with the Or field. Please advise the submitter, upon resubmission, to draw the chief with more engrailings.” The client has done so by reversing the tinctures of the field and the chief.
Catharine of Renfrewshire (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME Conflict with <Catarine of Renfrewshire> (reg. 02/2005 via Ealdormere). [AmC] The client asked to use her husband's registered byname (he's Ségán Ó Catháin). While this form is applicable only to men, I'm going out on a limb and using the “Englished” version, as found in “16th & 17th Century Anglicized Irish Surnames from Woulfe,” Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada ( http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Woulfe/SortedByAnglicizedSpelling_O2.shtml ), O Cahane coming from Ó Catháin. I don't know when women began using the once-male only forms of patronyms and clan names. [MMM] Mari's "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents,” http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/ has examples of women using O- and mac- style bynames, e.g. <Annis O Dalie> 1598-9, <Dorothy O Toole> 1600, <Ellin oge O Dun> 1601, so using the anglicized Irish form <O Cahane> would be fine. [AmC]
Eilina elfski (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per bend sinister argent and gules, a rose gules barbed and seeded proper and three hearts argent. <elfski> is an adjective, so it does need to change to match the gender of the given name. Per the instructions on feminizing adjectives given on GB p. 19, this would indeed be <elfska>. No conflicts found with the name. [AmC] The name is correctly cited and it will indeed need the feminine form: <Eilina elfska>. [Gs] The
rose appears to be seeded argent, not proper (i.e., Or). [A hard look
at them shows them as Or. [MMM]]
This is clear of Anne of Walnut Grove (reg. 7/2001 via Calontir),
"Per bend sinister argent and gules, a rose slipped and leaved
proper and on an artist's palette argent a paintbrush bendwise
sinister sable", with CDs for the number of primaries, their
type, and for removing the tertiary. It's also clear of Nita of
Forgotten Sea (reg. 06/2004 via Calontir), "Per bend sinister
argent and gules, in bend sinister five hearts bendwise sinister
counterchanged," with one CD for the number of charges and
another for their tincture.
Hopkyn Blaidd Du (Tir Ysgithr): NEW BADGE: (Fieldless): A cross formy sable winged Or. The wings could issue from various places, including the cross intersection. Should the blazon be more specific regarding the wing origination? Perhaps "(Fieldless): A cross formy sable winged at the ends of the arms Or". [Gs]
Huweyn ap Deiniol (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Quarterly vert and argent, a cross of square chain throughout between two millrinds sable. Withycombe is not an acceptable source for non-English names, since she only discusses modern usage. However, the 11/2003 LoAR notes: Deiniol filius Gwrgwst. Name (see RETURNS for device). Submitted as Deiniol ap Gwrgwst, both elements are found as masculine names in Tangwystyl verch Morgan Glasvryn's "Names of Women of the Brythonic North in the 5-7th Centuries." At this time, the Latin filius was used in Welsh patronymic bynames rather than the later ap. We have therefore made this change. The cited article is available at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/brythonic/; however, the only mentioned of <Deiniol> in it that I can find is a sentence "This Dwywai has also been associated with Dwywai, daughter of Lleenog, mother of Saint Deiniol"; in this discussion, standard modern forms are used. Thus, this does not provide evidence for <Deiniol> as a period name. [AmC] He's using an element of a friend's registered name (Golda ferch Deniol, from 12/99), which we cribbed for documentation -- we used Withycombe for her, which was back in the olden days. It seems like a century ago. :) [MMM] According to Table 1 in the Glossary (http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html), it's only an orle or annulet of chain that is reserved to knights. The contrast is low for the black-on-green bits, but the chain is readily identifiable. Checking the O&A, I find nothing with "square chain". Is a chain with square links a period charge? All of the period examples of more than one chain that I can recall meet at a larger annulet in the center, and I don't think I've seen any with square links. Coblaith's cross page (http://coblaith.net/Heraldry/Crosses/ofcharges.html#annulets) has: * Azure, a saltire of chain Or. (BSB Cod.icon. 270, folio 28r: has a larger central annulet) * a cross of annulets braced throughout (Volume III of William Berry's 1828 Encyclopædia Heraldica, Plate XXXVI: chains meet at a central annulet the same size as the other chain links) * Latin cross of six annulets interlaced * Azure, in saltire an annulet interlaced with the ends of four chains of three links argent. (BSB Cod.icon. 276, folio 74r: has a larger central annulet) * cross of chains couped (made up of nine annulets interlaced in cross) We have two fairly old registered devices with chain links that are not annulets: "Purpure, a saltorel pointed surmounted by a cross pointed argent within a chain of hexagonal links in mascle, the four corner links quadrilateral, Or." [Rosamunde von Muenstern, LOAR 06/1981, converted to badge 04/1982] "Per pale sable and argent, a theatrical mask, comic to dexter, tragic to sinister, counterchanged and on a chief per pale argent and purpure, a chain of five mascles counterchanged." [Dorren of Ashwel, LOAR 09/1986, blazon corrected 11/1986] [Gs] Although it won't count for difference, I think it's a good idea to include in the blazon that this is a chain of square links, like those specific shapes mention in Dorren and Rosamunde's armories. [MMM]
Jasper Kopec (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, a serpent erect tail nowed and on a chief Or a lightning bolt sable. Jasper is found as a German male given name via the August 2003 LoAR ( http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2003/08/03-08lar.html ). Under Wolfgang Güntherssohn acceptance via Æthelmearc, Brechenmacher (s.n. Wolterssohn) shows an example of the sohn 'son' element appended to the end of the patronym: Jasper Wolterszoen 1573. Kopec is a Polish surname and is the client's legal surname (DMV proof forwarded to Laurel) which he wishes to use as part of his SCA name. Kopec is a town in Poland (in addition to being a town in Austria and Switzerland) as well. The client says that the surname was shortened when his relatives immigrated to the U.S., and he'd like to know what the original form might've been (he might also be interested in using an older form). The Polish form of Jasper appears to be Kasper, Kaspar and Gaspard, found in “Polish Given Names in Nazwiska Polaków,” Walraven van Nijmegen and Arval Benicoeur ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/walraven/polish/#masc ), but he prefers the Jasper spelling, and we think that combining elements of German and Polish names should be no more than one step from period practice. For now, the client is interested in a male name and is most interested in the sound of the name. This is clear of Jonathan Stone: Sable, a pale argent and on a chief Or a lightning bolt sable., by X.2, complete change of primary charge.
James O Callan (Granite Mountain): TRANSFER OF ARMORY and RELEASE OF NAME
Jonat Kerr (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE and BADGE: (device) Or, a chevron gules between two spur rowels and a winged turtle sable. (badge) (Fieldless) A winged turtle sable. Amazingly, I found no conflicts with this truly awesome name. Hurrah! [AmC] The Glossary Table 4 (http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html#default) says the default turtle is tergiant palewise, so these appear to be blazoned correctly. [Gs] The arms, however, conflict with Gwenhevare Cordelia Maynard (reg. 11/2001 via Ansteorra), "Or, a chevron gules between two horses combattant and a castle sable," and Lukas Mesmer (reg. 08/2002 via Calontir), "Or, a chevron gules between three ermine spots sable." [AmC] Consultation with the client has resulted in the resubmission of Or, a chevron disjoint gules between two spur rowels and a winged turtle sable. We hope that the treatment of the chevron provides the second CD without introducing new conflicts. [MMM]
Kane du Roc (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per bend sinister azure and counter-ermine, in dexter chief an Arabian roc counter-volant, wings addorssed, argent grasping in its talons an elephant statant proper, in chief a label Or. Kane is the client's legal given name (documentation provided to Laurel). Reaney and Wilson suggest that it may be derived from the Irish Gaelic masculine name Cathan (3rd edition, p. 80 s.n. Cain). He has permission from his legal father, Justin du Roc, to use the byname element du Roc as part of his registered SCA name. The client has permission to conflict with the registered armory of his father, Justin du Roc, Per bend sinister azure and counter-ermine, in dexter chief an Arabian roc counter-volant, wings addorssed, argent grasping in its talons an elephant statant proper.
Katherine Maniske a' Nynetails (Tir Ysgithr): DEVICE BLAZON RECONSIDERATION Per pale sable and gules, a thunderbolt and on a chief embattled Or a cat statant contourny defamed reguardant sable. The client's device was registered in May 1997 with the blazon Per pale sable and gules, a thunderbolt and on a chief embattled Or a cat statant contourny reguardant sable. The blazon failed to include that the cat was tailless. The client thought that that wasn't such a big deal and has tried to live with a “whole cat” for many years, but after all this time, she has asked me if the emblazon could be corrected. In September 2011, Lora of the Four Paws had registered to her Argent, a dog statant contourny defamed gules and in chief four pawprints in fess sable. “Defamed” is an armorial term meaning tailless. At this time, we ask that the College of Arms consider amending Katherine's blazon to match the emblazon of her arms, Per pale sable and gules, a thunderbolt and on a chief embattled Or a cat statant contourny defamed reguardant sable. (“tailless” would be equally acceptable). Copies of her original submission form is included to Laurel to verify the missing bits of the cat.
Kolfinna Oddsdóttir (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME
Leonora de l'étoile (Twin Moons): NEW NAME The byname, with some tweaks, should be justifiable as a byname based on an inn sign. The 1292 census of Paris has the following: <aus boissiaus> 'at [the sign of] the bushels' <aus Canivez> (not sure) <aus Chevax> 'at [the sign of] the horses' <aus Chiens> 'at [the sign of] the dogs' <au Cinge> 'at [the sign of] the ape' <aus Cuevrechies> (not sure) <aus Escroëles> (not sure) <au Feure> (not sure) <aus Feves> (not sure) <aus Floquez> (not sure) <au grant toupet> (not sure) <au Leu> 'at [the sign of] the wolf' <aus Moës> (not sure) <aus Molles> (not sure) <aus Moues> (not sure) <au Mouton> 'at [the sign of] the sheep' <aus Naves> (not sure) <aus Oisiaus> 'at [the sign of] the birds' <aus rouges-chevax> 'at [the sign] of the red horse' <au Soc> (not sure, possible 'ploughshare') <aus Soupes> (not sure) <au Vert-Vis> (not sure, 'green something') <aus Aloieres> (not sure) <aus Barbos> (not sure) <aus Bues> (not sure) <aus Buletiaus> (not sure) <aus Colez> (not sure) <aus Coutes> (not sure) <au Fuerre> (not sure) <aus Ganz> (not sure) <aus Godez> (not sure) <aus iij Moutons> 'at [the sign of] the three sheep' <aus Jacobins> (not sure) <aus Nes> (not sure) <aus Noiaus> (not sure) <aus Oës> (not sure) <au Paus> (not sure) <aus Pois> 'at [the sign of] the peas' <aus Porees> 'at [the sign of] the leeks <aus Trepiez> (not sure) <aus Truies> (not sure) <aus Trumelieres> (not sure) <aus Trumiaus> (not sure) <aus Vieles> (not sure) <aus Anfanz> (not sure) <au Blanc-Tabar> (not sure, 'white something') So, it's hard to read any patterns into this since the only ones I can identify are animals and vegetables, but this shows a strong pattern of bynames based on sign names, and given that an estoile is a pretty bog standard heraldic charge, I'd be very surprised if there weren't any houses identified by an estoiles on their sign! So something like <aus estoile> (note that the medieval spelling of the term will have to be used) seems completely unremarkable. Blah! I went through all the work typing up those examples, and what do I find? The byname <de l'Estoile> also appears in the 1292 census. See http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/1292paris.pdf. (That's all the more reason why we love you, Ary! [MMM]) As for the given name, it appears in my "Names from an Early 16th C Census of Rome" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/leox-census.html). And yes, French/Italian combinations are a SFPP. [AmC]
Luisa Lacarra de Navarra (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME After the initial submission, the client decided to change the given name, from Luisa to Dalfina. Dalfina is a Spanish feminine given name found twice in the 1510 Valencia census ( http://www.ellipsis.cs/~liana/names/spanish/valencia1510.html ).
Milana Lancia (Granite Mountain): ACCEPTANCE OF ARMORY TRANSFER
Morgan Donner (Tir Ysgithr): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, July 2009: Gules ermined, a threaded needle and a bordure, all argent.
Portia Lacarra de Navarra (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME
Renzo di Ilario di Rederigo Venturius (Tir Ysgithr): NEW CHANGE OF NAME, from Reynier de Vriere The name is Italian. The construction of the name, in GDGDGF form with the particle di is found in “Names from Arezzo, Italy, 1386-1528,” Aryanhwy merch Catmael ( http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/arezzo.html ). The masculine given names Renzo, Ilario and Federigo as found in “Florentine Renaissance Resources: Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532,” edited by David Herlihy, page by Aryanhwy merch Catmael ( http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/tratte/ ). Venturius is found in “1800 Surnames Recorded in 1447,” N.F. Faraglia ( http://www.abruzzoheritage.com/magazine/2002_06/d.htm ). The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound and the language/culture of the name (Italian); he would like the name to be authentic for 16th C. Italian. He will not accept Major changes to the name. If registered, he wishes his currently-registered name Reynier de Vriere to be maintained as an alternate name.
Tetinka Ribbing (Twin Moons): NEW DEVICE: Or gouty de sang, on a point pointed azure a linden leaf Or. Consider Dauid of the Isles: Or, a lymphad under sail gules, on a point pointed azure a compass star Or. [MMM] This is clear by X.2, complete change of primary charges. [HdA]
Úlfr Vafri (Granholme): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Sable, a wolf passant contourny sustaining in its mouth a sword palewise argent. The byname should be lower case, <Úlfr vafri>. [Gs] Consider Helena Osterholm: Sable semy of roses Or, a fox passant reguardant contourny argent. and Guillaume, le Chien Blanc: Sable, a Samoyed dog counter-statant proper and a chief argent. [MMM] If the sword is considered a sustained charge (drawn of equal visual weight to the wolf), in both cases it is clear with 1 CD for the addition of a co-primary charge and 1 CD for removal of the semy or the chief. [HdA] William of Lochridge (St. Felix): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Argent, a bear dormant contourny gules and a ford proper. The name is Scots. William is a masculine given name found in “Early 16th Century Scottish Lowland Names, Draft Edition,” Sharon L. Krossa ( http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/lowland16/menalpha.shtml ), one of many spellings of the name, and this particular one dated 1500-1509. Lochrig is a Scots locative surname in Black, p. 435 s.n. Lochrig; in Scots placenames, -rig and -ridge are interchangeable. In 1607, Lochrig is referred to as the 11 merc lands of Lochrig. John Lochrig was witness in Kilwinning, 1559. The client desires a male name, and is most interested in the sound of the name. He will not accept Major changes to the name.
The following are returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds for further work, February 2012:
Please note: In most cases, I tried to contact the client by email for clarification and to try and solve the problems that arose, so that the submission could continue without disruption. When I hear nothing back, I have no choice but to return the submission entirely and contact the client by mail.
Cerise De Fleur (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Gules, on a bend argent a branch of cherry blossoms throughout proper. Cerise De Fleur - <Cerise> was registered as a byname in <Cécille Cerise of Cherybeare> (10/2005 via Calontir). It would be worth getting the files from this submission to see what the documentation was; if no docs for <Cerise> as a given name can be found, then at least she could do something like <Jehanne Cerise de Fleur>. The earliest examples of <Cerise> that I've been able to find have been from the 19th C, so no help there. The byname <de Fleur> appears in "French Names from Paris, 1421, 1423, & 1438," Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/paris1423.html). [AmC] The arms conflict with Trinidad and Tobago (reg. 09/1995 via Laurel), "Gules, a bend sable fimbriated argent." There's one CD for changing the type and tincture of the tertiary. [AmC] NAME returned for no documentation as period name; DEVICE returned for conflict.
Kolfinna Oddsdóttir (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE: Argent, a schnecke azure and in dester chief a seeblatt purpure. The arms likely conflict with Leocadia de Bilbao (reg. 05/2001 via Meridies), "Argent, issuant from base a schnecke azure"; given how schneckes are shaped, where they issue from is not a significant visual difference. [AmC] Although I dont' think there is a conflict with Leodadia's, there is a definite conflict with Rachel of Sandy Stream: Argent, a schnecke issuant from sinister chief and in dexter chief a seeblatt purpure., with only 1 CD for the tincture of the schnecke. [MMM] DEVICE returned for conflict.
Rebekah Sital Saylam (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Purpure, a kraken and a bordure argent. There was no documentation found for the name element Sital. [AmC, MMM] No conflicts found with the arms. [AmC] NAME returned for clarification; DEVICE returned pending acceptable name resubmission. The following submission have been registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, January 2012:
The following submissions are returned by the College of Arms for further work, January 2012:
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