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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 1 December 2012, A.S. XLVII
LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt


Unto Their Royal Majesties Tristan and Damiana; Master Seamus, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings of from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!


This is the December 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. Please have commentary to me by 20 December 2012.


The Commentary, it is a-changing: While Letters of Presentation will continue to be posted on the atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com website, commenters should look for them on the OSCAR site in order to make timely commentary. OSCAR is now set up to show Letters of Presentation (known there as Internal Letters of Intent or ILoI), and comments can be posted there directly – you do NOT have to create a separate email/document for your thoughts. It is quick and easy, and you can see what fellow heralds have to say (that's the best part!). Even if you're a little shy about commenting, this is the place to see the submission process in action – at least the portion after the client hands the submission packet to his/her herald. LoPs are there to catch the conflicts and tweak submissions in-kingdom to correct them, clear up questions, and give them the greatest possibility of being registered once they appear in a Letter of Intent.


Speaking of submissions: I accept direct-to-Kingdom submissions from heraldic clients, and although I've thought for years that this was not the most favorable route to take, particularly if a group has a territorial herald (or in the case of baronies, is required by Corpora to have a warranted pursuivant), it appears that a lot of people who want to submit names and armories are unable to take the local herald path through no fault of their own. It is evident that in many cases in this kingdom, this is the only reasonable and timely way for a submission to be made. Bear in mind that if a submission is sent directly to the Parhelium office, the local herald will receive a copy of the submission for the local file, in addition to receiving a copy of the Letter of Notification regarding the submission when it is finally considered by the College of Arms; the local office will not receive the “local” portion of the submission fee if this is a new submission.

Local heralds must remember to send submissions accepted by their hand in a timely manner as well (i.e., within one month of receiving a submissions packet). If you cannot connect with me at an event (very likely) or attend Heraldry Hut, submissions need to be mailed within one month (IMPORTANT!) of a local herald receiving them, unless there is a valid reason for return at the local level. My address: Linda Miku, 2527 E. 3rd Street, Tucson AZ 85716.


Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent LoPs/internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Current submission forms (the ONLY forms that can be used) can be found on the site, along with guidelines for painlessly filling out the forms. Please let your local populace know about the site, too: atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com.


The following submissions appear in the November 2012 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Commentary by Alys Mackyntoich [Am], Aryanhwy merch Catmael [AmC], Gunnvor silfraharr [Gs], Kolosvari Arpadne Julia[KAJ], Lillia de Vaux [LdV].


Aonghas Mac Faoláin (Tir Ysgithr): DEVICE RESUBMISSION FROM Laurel, September 2012: Per pale and per chevron purpure and Or, three bull's heads cabossed counterchanged.

This is a good per chevron line, and definitely purpure. No conflicts found. [AmC]

I think that the reason for return has been addressed. [LdV]


Clarice Alienor Neep (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE CHANGE: Vert, a turnip Or between two sewing needles in pile argent.

The name was registered October 2011. She asks that her currently-registered device, Vert, an empty drop spindle Or between two sewing needles in pile argent., be retained as a badge if this submission is registered.


Eilidh MacMurtrie (BoA): NEW BADGE: Per fess gules and sable, an open book argent and a lantern Or.

The name was registered March 1985.


Einarr atgørvimaðr (Twin Moons): NEW NAME CHANGE TO Bamlach von Bamberg

The IGI Parish Records turn up nothing remotely close to <Bamlach> as a given (emphasis mine—MMM) name. [AM]

Upon consulting with the client's consulting herald, he asks that the submission be sent on to see if the College of Arms can help direct him (they were operating under the thought that a byname could eventually be used as a given name, as is seen in late period English onomastics – I have no idea if this holds true for other cultures/languages).


Cera Bradach (St. Felix): NAME and DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, February 2012: Per fess argent and checky vert and argent, in chief a a ferret courant purpure.

The original name submission, Kiera ferch Dafydd, was returned, as “Unfortunately, Kiera was ruled unregisterable in July 2006; we have no evidence that it was used before 1600.” This is a reworking of the name.

Cera is cited as an early Irish given name in Academy of Saint Gabriel resport 2057, http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2057+0. It was suggested that it be for an early name (through 1200 or so), since no evidence of the name has been found later in period. It if also found in O'Corrain and Maguire p. 50 s.n. Cera (undated, but the pre-1600 form).

The byname is found in “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Descriptive Bynames: Bradach,” Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, as an Early Modern Irish Gaelic (1200-1700), “[the] Thievish” (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/DescriptiveBynames/Bradach.shtml); the specific date documenting it is 1500, so the overlap of name elements is just about 300 years.

The client desires a female name and is move interested in the Sound of the name (KEE-rah).

The device, Per fess argent and checky purpure and argent, in chief a dragon coward sable., was returned for conflict with the badge of Eric de Dragonslaire, (Fieldless) A dragon salient sable breathing flames gules., with one CD for fieldlessness, but no difference granted for the change in position of the primary charge on the field as location has no meaning for fieldless armory. This is a reworking of the original submission.


Dianne Buble Blowere (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Purpure, a wand bendwise sinister tipped with a mullet within an orle of roundels argent.

(Checking the calendar...) Nope, April is still five months away. Huh. I don't have my R&W handy, but is that header for Blowere ("s.n. Buble") a typo? [KAJ] It is; the header is <Blower>. [AmC]

<Dianne> is a valid late-period English spelling, as found in the IGI Parish Records Extracts:

Dianne Denny Female Christening 06 Aug 1598 Blofield, Norfolk, England Batch: C04180-1

Because temporal consistency makes Eastern Crown happy and because SENA Appendix A says double bynames generally are found "late" in England:

Anna Blowere Female Christening 02 Feb 1550 Betley, Stafford, England Batch: P01043-1
Humfrey Blowere Male Marriage 06 Dec 1643 Saint Mary Aldermary, London, London, England Batch: M00151-1 [AM]
The Batch for the IGI Entry for Allis Buble is C06973-2 [AM]

This should be clear of Alda Mauricia (reg. 09/1995 via the Middle), "Purpure, a crook of Basel argent," with a DC for the orientation of the staff and one for adding the roundels. The use of a staff headed of a heraldic charge can be found in the arms of von Venningen (Siebmacher plate 122), blazoned as "D'argent, à deux bâtons fleurdelisés de gueules, passés en sautoir" by Rietstap. [AmC]

I'm not sure that a staff headed of a fleur-de-lys counts, as that's a normal depiction of period scepters that shows up as early as the Zurich Roll. I'd be more convinced if there was some other sort of staff headed of a charge as well. [Gs]


The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, October 2012:


Anna Sophie von Creutznach. Name change from holding name Diana of Atenveldt.

The name was registered as a new name rather than a change of holding name on the March 2012 Letter of Acceptances and Returns.

Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Badge for previous Kingdom Arts and Sciences Champions. Azure, a demi-sun issuant from base Or and a bordure embattled argent.

"Previous Kingdom Arts and Sciences Champions" is a generic identifier.

Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Badge association for Order of the Beacon of the Desert. Argent, a sun in splendor per saltire Or and azure and a bordure indented azure.

Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Badge association for Order of the Flower of the Desert. Or, three fleurs-de-lys in pall bases to center azure.

Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Badge association for Order of the Guardians of Atenveldt. Per pale argent and azure, in pale a sun in his splendor and two swords in saltire Or.

Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Badge association for Order of the Pilgrim of the Desert. Azure, an escallop and a demi-sun issuant from base Or.

Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Badge association for Order of the Pilgrim of the Desert. Azure, an escallop argent and a demi-sun issuant from base Or.

Corynne MacLeod. Device change. Per pale sable and Or, a fret counterchanged surmounted by an orle gules.

Her previous device, Per saltire Or and sable, a fret counterchanged and a bordure gules, is retained as a badge.

Gaia Junia. Name and device. Per chevron sable and argent, two threaded needles argent and a sprig of holly vert fructed gules.

This name combines a feminized praenomen and a feminized nomen with no other elements. Green Staff provided evidence of this pattern; in Roman Female Praenomina, Mika Kajava includes many republican women's names that consist only of a praenomen and nomen (as is typical of this period for men as well). Therefore, this can be registered as submitted.

Iamys MacMurray de Morayshire. Badge. Gules, on a pile wavy between two crosses formy argent a lion's head erased sable crowned with thorns Or.

The February 2008 Cover Letter had some discussion about short piles: "Given the weight of examples, we encourage piles to extend at least 85% the length of the shield; given the single, theoretical example of Legh, we will permit piles extending as little as 75% the length of the shield, but will consider them a step from period practice." The length of the pile here is registerable with a step from period practice. The submitter would be best advised to draw it longer in the future.

Pietro Francesco dei Scalzi. Name and device. Per fess gules and sable, a compass rose Or ringed argent pierced.

Submitted as Pietro Francesco da Scalzi, the Letter of Intent stated that Scalzi was found as a placename. However, the documentation simply said it was a surname/family name. In this case, commenters could find no evidence that it was a placename. Instead it seems to be derived from the word "barefoot." As such, it cannot be used with the preposition da. Instead it is registerable as Scalzi or de(gl)i Scalzi. As the latter is closer to the submitted form, we have changed it to that form in order to register it.

There was some discussion regarding the registerability of the primary charge in this device. A compass rose has been ruled to be a registerable charge, as it was known in period on maps even though it was not used in period heraldry. Compass roses on maps were a variety of colors, frequently with eight or sixteen rays of alternating colors, combined with a thin outer ring. The center was commonly pierced or had a separate decorative motif. Given the variety in period compass roses, we see no restriction in a compass roses with rays differently tinctured than the outer ring; however, given the usual prominence the directional rays have over the outer ring, a compass rose's tincture will be defined by the tincture of the rays, with the tincture of the outer ring considered a blazonable artistic detail. Piercing, as usual, will be considered the equivalent of a tertiary charge.

Please advise the submitter that while the rays of a compass rose may overlap the outer ring, they should not extend beyond it, with the exception of the northmark.

Ricolda de Aspynwall. Name and device. Sable, on a pale Or a sun gules.

Submitted as Ricolda de Aspynwall', the byname includes a scribal abbreviation, probably marking a final -e. The locative can be found either with or without it. As the form without the -e more closely matches the submitted form, we have dropped the scribal abbreviation in order to register the name.

Under the Rules for Submissions, this device is in conflict with the device of Asa Lee Durant, Sable, on a pale Or three compass stars sable, as there is only one CD for the multiple changes to the tertiary charges. However, under the Standards for Evaluations, this device is not in conflict with Asa's device as there is a DC for the change in number of tertiary charges and a DC for the change in tincture of the tertiary charges. Therefore, this device may be registered.

Ruy d'Oute. Reblazon of device. Argent, on a tierce azure in chief a wheel Or.

Blazoned when registered in January 1973 as Argent, the dexter tierce azure, in canton a wheel Or, we are clarifying that the wheel is a tertiary charge.

Selina Trastamara de Luna. Badge. Per bend sinister rayonny sable and gules, two pawprints Or.

There is a step from period practice for the use of pawprints.

Sely Bloxam. Alternate name Luffechild de Honybourn.

Appearing on the Letter of Intent as Luffechild' de Honybourn', examination of the form showed that the name was submitted as Luffechild de Honybourn'. The byname (and on the Letter of Intent the given name as well) includes a scribal abbreviation, probably marking a final -e. These elements can be found either with or without it. As the form without the -e more closely matches the submitted form, we have dropped the scribal abbreviation in order to register the name.


The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work October 2012:


None.


Thank you all for your continuing hard work for the Atenveldt College of Heralds and the people of Atenveldt!


Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

brickbat@nexiliscom.com

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