Kingdom of Atenveldt
ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 1 October 2018, A.S. LIII
LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt
Unto Their Royal Majesties Ivan and Ian'ka; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,
Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!
Please have commentary to me on the proposed submissions for the October Letter of Intent by 20 October 2018. Thank you!
Please consider the following submissions for the October 2018 Atenveldt LoI:
Hadda Modirfoeda Snorrisdottir (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE
Purpure, in pale a roundel and and gout, a bordure argent semy of cats sejant purpure.
The name is Old Norse. Hadda is said to be a female form of Hadr; the giantess daugher of Scadi (Dictionary of Norman (sic) Mythology, 1993, www.Nordicnames.de/wiki). This link goes nowhere. The Viking Answer Lady demonstrates Haddr, Haddi originally as a by-name, "man with abundant hair," with a few instances are found in Norway, and the form Hadde is found in Denmark and Sweden. ( http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml#h). Hadde appears in Geirr Bassi. p. 10. It doesn't seem likely that a male given name could be feminized (as is often the case in languages of Latin origin) just by adding a terminal -a. Also bear in mind that unless documented as a name used by a human in period, the names of gods, giants, and othe non-human beings cannot be registered in the College of Arms.
Modirfoeda is a nickname combining modir (mother) and foeda (from the Snorra Edda and Volisora (sic), “to feed, read, bring up”). The University of Texas Linguistics Research Center: “nicknames were very common in Old Norse.” This is the extent of the documentation provided, aside from the VAL citation for Haddr. The correct form for mother is móðir, mōðir, môðir, with the letter ð, not d (https://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/MOR). I can't even guess how one would compound two elements for the nickname.
Snorrisdottir, “the daughter of Snorri Bjornson” (I'm guessing this refers to Snorri Bjornsson, the name registered in November 2014. The correct form of the patronymic is -i > -a, so Snorradóttir, either with or without the diacritical, via Geirr Bassi. The Old Norse Name.
The client is most interested in the language/culture of the name (none specified, but the guess is Old Norse.
I have no idea what the “gout” is; period charges have a distinctive wavy tail (to the extent that our “modern” teardrop forms are no longer allowed). Can this be blazoned as another charge altogether?
For whatever reason, the submission will have to be redrawn; in addition to being drawn on a shield shape that isn't used by the College of Arms, it was pasted on an obsolete form as well (the old form has been disallowed since January 2017).
I've asked several heralds if the “gout” on the device is an acceptable type of gout, and the consensus is that it is not.
The following submissions appear in the September 2018 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:
Commentary provided by Etienne Le Mons (Sea Stag), ffride wlffsdotter, Gunnvor silfraharr (Orle), Kolosvari Arpadne Julia, Michael Gerard Curtememoire.
Noël de Lorraine (Granite
Mountain): NEW DEVICE: Or,
a dragon vert maintaining a wooden tankard proper and a dumbeg
(Mons Tonitrus): NEW DEVICE
The name was registered May 2018 (why this doesn't appears in the Armorial is anyone's guess).
There is a SFPP for depicting three elements in a charge group in three different tinctures.
Franz Weiher (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per fess sable and azure, a compass rose Or between three crosses formy argent.
There was some discussion that the surname as written out in a period record might be showing a long -s, rather than an -h- in Weiher.
Michael Gerard Curtememoire notes for Niall Marescal's armorial submission, "Please advise the submitter that while the rays of a compass rose may overlap the outer ring, they should not extend beyond it, with the exception of the north mark," https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/12/14-12lar.html#118. He believes this was an artist's note, and that the item was returned otherwise for a different reason.
Hlaðgerðr Arnfriðardóttir: NEW NAME and DEVICE
Per chevron inverted vert and argent, a chickadee contourny Or and an iris blossom azure slipped vert..
Submitted originally as Lagertha Arnafrí ðsdottir, there were several name issues which were addressed (read, came to the rescue!) by Gunnvor Orle and ffride wlffsdotter. Upon consultation with the client, she is happy to have the name submitted as Hlaðgerðr Arnfriðardóttir.
For Hlaðgerðr, Gunnvor comments “Saxo Grammaticus' Gesta Danorum Book IX has a Latin <Lathgertha> (http://wayback-01.kb.dk/wayback/20100504153455/http://www2.kb.dk/elib/lit/dan/saxo/lat/or.dsr/9/4/in dex.htm -- or https://tinyurl.com/SaxoLathgertha, since OSCAR insists on breaking the link). This almost certainly reflects an Old Norse <*Hlaðgerðr>. ffride coorborates this: “Lind col. 550 sn. Hlaðgerðr makes the same connection between "Hlaðgerðr a Hlaðeyjum" and Saxo's "Lathgertha."”
Arnfríðr is an ON female given name (Viking Names found in Landnámabók, Aryanhwy merch Catmael. http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html). The metronymic for a woman is formed with
-ðr → ðardóttir A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names, Aryanhwy merch Catmael, http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html).
The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound and language/culture of the name. She asks that it be make authentic for 9th-10th C. Old Norse.
There were also several issues with the device. Upon further consultation with the client, the line of division was corrected/redrawn and the tincture of the iris specified. She's also fine with making the iris blue and the slip/stem vert. The grey-headed chickadee, or Siberian tit, is indeed an Old World bird (found in Scandinavia and northern Asia, as well as across central Alaska (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey-headed_chickadee), but while chickadees and tits are related in the tit family Paridae, the critters are usually called chickadees in the New World and tits in the Old World. She likes the appearance of the little round bird, regardless of what it's finally registered as.
Hrafnkel Sveinsson (Ered Sul): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per pale argent and sable, a calamarie and in base two anchors all counterchanged.
Gunnvor comments that “A number of modern translations of Hrafnkels saga omit the second "l". In Old Norse, it's <Hrafnkell> in the nominative case. E. H. Lind. Norsk-Isländska Dopnamn ock Fingerade Namn från Medeltiden (Uppsala: AQ.-B.Lundequistska Bokhandeln. 1849-1931. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009007424) col. 566 s.n. <Hrafnkell> has no nominative examples that drop the second "l".”
Katrina von Neumann (BoA): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Gules, on a bend wavy azure fimbriated and cotised wavy three mullets palewise argent.
is German. Katrina Burkmanss born July 12, 1573 in Auenheim,
would also like to add the prefix “von” before her surname. The
direc translation can mean either “from”, as in come from the
town of, or “descendent from”, as in the family of . Modern
genealogy experts state that there is not definites listing of the
aristocratic familes who used the prefix as shown below:
Logan Fraser (Barony of Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Per bend sinister gules and sable on a bend sinister cotised argent, a badger statant sable.
Logan is the client's legal. It is also a late-period surname in Scotland and England evidenced by David Logan with the christening date of 07 Sep 1600 in South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland (Batch C19503-1, Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1771030). Fraser is a Scottish surname, evidenced by Samuell Fraser with the christening date 24 Jul 1597 in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland (Batch C11685-4, Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1771030). The client desires a male name and is most interested in the sound and the language/culture of the name (Scotland). He will not accept Major or Minor changes to the name.
Sundragon, Barony of: NEW BADGE: (Fieldless) A sun in splendor Or within and conjoined to five dragons passant in annulo argent.
The branch name was registered September 1984.
Etienne Le Mons notes that there's a SFPP for charges in annulo not in their default orientation, but only the one.
The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, July 2018:
Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald
c/o Linda Miku
2527 East 3rd Street
Tucson AZ 85716