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1 October 2001, A.S. XXXVI

Kingdom of Atenveldt

Unto Francois la Flamme, Laurel King of Arms; Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, Pelican Queen of Arms; Zenobia Naphtali, Prismacolor Queen of Arms; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald!

The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms. Unless specifically stated, the submitter will accept spelling and grammar corrections; assistance in these areas is appreciated.

1. Anita de Challis: DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, February 2000

Gules, a schnecke issuant from sinister chief argent, on a chief Or, three fleurs-de-lys azure.

The name was registered February 2000.

The original submission, Gules, a schnecke issuant from sinister chief argent, on a chief Or, a xonecuilli fesswise gules., was returned because the only registrations of xonecuilli were to John the Idiota in 1978 and 1982. It is listed in the Pictorial Dictionary as an Aztec artistic motif, and the CoA no longer registers artistic motifs, even from European sources without evidence that they are compatible with heraldry. The design has been modified to use recognized heraldic charges.

2. Antonio Biagi: NEW NAME

The name is Italian. Antonio is the Italian form of Antony/Anthony (Withycombe, p. 28). Biagi is the submitter's legal surname (he includes a copy of his driver's license). "Italian Names from Florence, 1427" shows the patronymic and masculine given name Biagio ( http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto/). This seems a reasonable variant of the name.

3. Antonio Biagi: NEW DEVICE

Or, a dog's head couped purpure, a bordure gyronny gules and purpure.

4. Benedict Saint-Jean Eldridge: NEW NAME CHANGE from Cyngen ap Gwenwynwyn

The submitter's original name was registered in May 1994.

The name is English and French. Benedict is dated to 1273 with this spelling (p. 46, Withycombe).

Saint-Jean is found with a host of other saints' names in Dauzat, p. 355. (Although submitted asSt. Jean, it seems that period naming practice is to completely write out Saint.)

Eldridge is an undated form of Aldrich (pp. 4-5, Reaney and Wilson); Eldrigge is dated to 1227.

If the new name is registered, please retain the previous one as an alternate name.

5. Bertrand de Lacy (Mons Tonitrus): NEW DEVICE

Per bend sinister Or and vert, a Lacy knot counterchanged.

The name appears in the 1 July 2001 Atenveldt Letter of Intent.

The most recent registration of a Lacy knot was in October 1999 to Kyrstyan of Danegeld Tor,

Azure, a Lacy knot and on a chief argent, three musical notes azure. This depiction of a Lacy knot is as shown in James Parker's A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry, 2nd Edition, 1971, p. 134.

6. Bethia at Someres: NEW NAME

Bethia is cited as a favorite Scottish woman's name among the Edmonstones, and a Bethia Ard of Edinburgh is dated to 1599 (Black, p. 71).

at Someres is dated to 1372 (Reaney and Wilson, p. 338); Sommers is the submitter's legal surname.

7. Bethia at Someres: NEW DEVICE

Purpure emined argent, on a pale engrailed argent a rapier sable entwined by a vine vert.

8. Branwen of Werchesvorde: NEW CHANGE OF DEVICE

Per pale azure and gules, a raven, dexter talon raised, within an annulet argent.

The name was registered September 1992.

The submitter already has a device registered to her, Per pale gules and azure, a bend and a bend sinister both humetty argent fretted with a mascle, a bordure Or. If the new device is registered, the currently-held one should be released. This is clear of Raven Silverthorne, Quarterly sable and gules, a raven between three roses argent., with 1 CD for field and 1 CD for changes to the secondary charges.

9. Catlin of Annandale: NEW NAME

Catlin is found in Withycombe (pp. 186-7, under Katharine), which demonstrates it as a Middle English variant of that given name.

Annandale is a Scottish surname of local origin from the district of the name in Dumfrieshire (Black, p. 25).

10. Catlin of Annandale: NEW DEVICE

Argent, on a bend wavy between two goutes azure, a cat sejant gardant argent, its front paws resting upon an arrow Or.

Considering Alys of Eisental, Argent, on a bend wavy vert between two swans naiant sable, a sprig of foliage argent., there is 1 CD for the type and 1 CD for the tincture differences of the secondary charges.

11. Conall O'Maccus: NEW NAME

The name is Irish. Conall is a masculine given name, a very old and popular name (Ó Corráin and Maguire, pp. 56-57).

Maccus is cited in Scandanavian Personal Names in Norfolk: A Survey Based on Medieval Records and Place-Names, by John Insley, (Acta Academiae Regiae Gustavi Adolphi LXII, Almquist and Wiksell International, Uppsala, 1994), in which the author states "There is, however, a personal name Maccus, which is attested in the British Isles in the 10th Century. A certain Earl Maccus son of Olaf ( Maccus filio Onlafi) was the murderer of Eiríkr Blóthox, the last Norse king of York, in 954...Maccus seems, in general, to have been characteristic of the Hiberno-Nose settlements around the Irish Sea, and there is no reason to doubt its ultimately Goidelic origin, though after the appearance of the Scand Magnus in the 11th century confusion between Maccus and Magnus in Irish sources would have been relatively easy" (pp. 293-4). Reaney also cites aMaccus de Leum in 1176, and notes Maccus as an originally Old Irish. Reaney's forward comments on Irish surnames appearing in the middle of the 10th C, with patronymics formed by prefixing O to the grandfather's name. It seems, according to "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names," Sharon Krossa ( http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/), that the name is a little more accurate as Conall ó Maccus. The submitter allows no major changes to the name.

12. Conall O'Maccus : NEW DEVICE

Vert, two arrows crossed in saltire and surmounted by a double-bladed axe, on a chief indented Or two shamrocks sable.

13. Deille of Farnham: NEW BADGE

Or, on a saltire vert, a cat's pawprint Or.

The name was registered July 1999.

The design plays upon elements of her registered device, Or, on a saltire vert a cat sejant guardant Or, overall an orle counterchanged.

14. Dietreich von Ravensburg: NEW NAME

The name is German. Dietreich is an alternate spelling of Dietrich (Bahlow, p. 99).

von Ravensburg, "of Ravens Mountain," is found on p. xxxvii, third source on page, of Hans Bahlow's Dictionary of German Names, Edda Gentry, translator, 1993.

15. Dietreich von Ravensburg: NEW DEVICE

Per fess indented sable and argent, on a chief argent two ravens displayed, heads to sinister, sable, a base vert.

The submitter has been informed that the chief should be a little wider, for its own sake and to accommodate the tertiary charges.

16. Dietrich Nibelung: NEW DEVICE

Gules, two swords in saltire, on a chief argent three dragon's heads couped gules.

The name was registered January 1996.

The submitter has been informed to draw the chief less wide (although at least this gives the snaky necks of the dragons a lot of space!), so that this isn't mistaken for a poorly-divided per fess field. (We are negotiating with Dietreich, above, accept some of Dietrich's chief...)

17. Henry of Three Needles: NEW DEVICE CHANGE

Or, a standing seraph gules.

The name was registered January 1996.

If this is registered, the submitter asks that his currently held device, Per bend sinister sable and argent, a bear sejant erect guardant contourny counterchanged, collared and muzzled sable, chained argent., be retained as a badge.

18. Jack Graeme of Ardmoor: NEW NAME

The name is Anglicized Scottish. While undated, Jack appears to be a common nickname for the popular given name John (Withycombe, pp. 178-9).

Graeme is a spelling variant of the prominent Scottish family name Graham (Black, pp. 323-4); this particular spelling isn't dated, but both spellings have numerous registrations by the College of Arms.

Armoor is stated to be a region near the Lake of Menteith in southwestern Scotland, purported to be Clan Graham lands (British Ordinance Map). We ask for assistance with the submission, because we are unsure if this might run afoul of claiming pretense ("X of Y" name construction).

19. Katrín Thorfinnsdottir: NEW NAME

The name is Old Norse, both elements being found in "The Old Norse Name," by Geirr Bassi.Katrín is a feminine given name, p. 12, Thorfinnsdottir a standard patronymic construction of the given name Thorfinn, p. 16.

20. Katrín Thorfinnsdottir: NEW DEVICE

Vert, two stags courant in annulo widdershins, legs outward, argent.

21. Keshvar bint Afsar al-Mah: NEW NAME

The name is Persian and Arabic, "Keshvar, daughter of Afsar of the Moon (a reference to her home barony, Twin Moons)". Keshvar is a Persian feminine given name, found in "Zoroastrian Names," in the Medieval Names Archives ( http://www.avesta.org/znames.htm#op). Kishwar seems to be the Islamic equivalent of this name (Annemarie Schimmel, Islamic Names , p. 24), but it isn't unusual for Persians, even those following Islam, to continue using Zoroastrian names throughout period and to the modern day.

Afsar is found in A Dictionary of Muslim Names, Salahudding Ahmend (New York University Press, NY). I don't know if this is a proper name per se (the example cited is Afsar-ud-Din, "crown of/adoring the religion (Islam)," which seems closer to an attributive name or laqab, added on to one's personal name later in life. She chose it as an allusion to her father's legal middle nameLe Rey. Mah , "moon," is found in Schimmel, p. 45, although it seems that this term for moon is used as part of a name or descriptive rather than standing alone. As this submitter's place of residence is Twin Moons, perhaps trying to create a byname that roughly translates into "Two/Twin Moons" would be preferable. Any assistance or opinions is appreciated.

22. Keshvar bint Afsar al-Mah: NEW DEVICE

Per chevon inverted azure and purpure, a chevron inverted vert fimbriated and in chief a decrescent argent.

23. Klaus von Saarbrücken: NEW NAME

The name is German. Klaus appears to be derived from Nicolaus/Niklaus (Bahlow, p. 280).

Saarbrücken is a city in southwestern Germany and the capital of Saarland; is was chartered in 1321 ( http://www.encyclopedia.com/articlesnew/40673.html).

24. Klaus von Saarbrücken: NEW DEVICE

Per chevron azure and argent, two escarbuncles argent and a stag's head erased gules.

25. Marceau de Valmont: NEW BADGE

(fieldless) A fleur-de-lys purpure surmounted by a pair of rapiers crossed in saltire Or.

The name was registered July 2001.

26. Margaret McNeal: NEW NAME

Margaret was a popular saint name in period; St. Margaret was the patron of expectant mothers (Withycombe, pp. 206-7).

McNeal is found in Black, p. 550.

27. Margaret McNeal: NEW DEVICE

Or, a lily slipped and leaved gules, on a chief dovetailed purpure, three fleurs-de-lys Or.

The submitter has been informed that the width of the dovetails should be equal and not of alternating measures.

28. Micaela Leslie: NEW NAME

Michaela is an Italian feminine given name (De Felice, p. 262, under Michele).

Leslie is an English surname; Robert de Leslie is cited in 1272 (Reaney and Wilson, p. 214).

29. Micaela Leslie: NEW DEVICE

Argent, a pillar sable surmounted by a horse passant contourny, on a chief rayonny purpure a rose slipped and leaved argent.

There was some discussion that this looked like a carousel horse. While it may have a passing appearance, this doesn't seem to be any more jarring than having a beast/bird and weapon combination in which the creature seems to be impaled by a sword or an arrow.

30. Radigost the Lame: NEW NAME

Radigost is a Russian masculine given name, a variant of Radogost, itself dated to the 13th C., "A Dictionary of Period Russian Names" ( http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/).

The byname is English and a descriptive epithet.

31. Radigost the Lame: NEW DEVICE

Per fess sable and purpure, three escallops in fess and an escarbuncle of eight spears Or.

There is probably a number of possible blazons for the charges in base; "an escarbuncle" might be too suggestive of the spears being joined, as an escarbuncle is a single charge made up of conjoined (fancy) spears. Would eight spears arranged points out, be any clearer, in that they are not conjoined?

32. Raven Mayne: NEW DEVICE

Argent, in pale a gout de sang and a tick, on a chief sable, a decrescent argent.

The name submission appears in the 1 September 2001 Atenveldt Letter of Intent.

Generally arthropods were not used as heraldic charges, unless they exemplified a particular virtue, like the industrious bee. However, we note the registration of cockroach in 12/98 and 8/99 (yuck!-sorry, I'm better now). I have it on good authority from dog-owning people that a fat, well-fed tick is fairly easy to see.

33. Thomas de Lacy: NEW NAME

Thomas dates to the Domesday Book 1086 (Withycombe, pp. 279-280).

A Holme Lacy is cited in the Domesday Book, Herefordshire Index ( http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/herefordshire.html).

Adding the preposition de is a common Norman practice.

34. Thomas de Lacy : NEW DEVICE

Per bend sinister Or and vert, a Lacy knot counterchanged and a label throughout sable.

The submitter is the legal and S.C.A. son of Bertrand de Lacy; Bertrand provides a letter of permission to conflict with his submitted armory, Per bend sinister Or and vert a Lacy knot counterchanged. The most recent registration of a Lacy knot was in October 1999 to Kyrstyan of Danegeld Tor,

Azure, a Lacy knot and on a chief argent, three musical notes azure. This depiction of a Lacy knot is as shown in James Parker's A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry, 2nd Edition, 1971, p. 134.

35. Thomas Towlewardie: NEW BADGE

(fieldless) A tree blasted and couped, the trunk surmounted by an arrow fesswise reversed Or.

The name was registered December 1996.

The badge uses elements of his registered device, Quarterly purpure and sable, a tree blasted the trunk surmounted by an arrow fesswise reversed Or. This should be clear of Alan MacRonan MacCalum, (Fieldless) A tree blasted couped Or, overall a cat's face sable. There is 1 CD for fieldlessness and 1 CD for the addition of the cat's face, a second primary charge; the emblazons probably do need to be compared, but as the cat's face is overall rather than just having the tree "charged with" a tertiary charge, we are counting this as a primary. Also bear in mind, should the cat's face be considered a tertiary, the addition of the arrow as a possible second primary charge.

36. Ysabella Scarlet: NEW DEVICE

Or, crescenty gules, a natural panther rampant regardant sable, a bordure gules, crescenty Or.

The name was registered July 2001.

This letter contains 14 new names, 18 new devices, 3 new badges, and 1 device resubmission.

A check to cover fees will be sent separately.

I remain,

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

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References

Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland.

Ó Corráin, Donnchadh and Fidelma Maguire. Irish Names .

MacLysaght, E. The Surnames of Ireland. Dublin, Irish Academic Press, 1991.

Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson. A Dictionary of English Surnames.

Withycombe, E.G., The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names , 3rd Edition. London, Oxford University Press, 1977.


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