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1 April 2001, A.S. XXXV

Kingdom of Atenveldt

Unto Their Royal Majesties Johnathan and Etain; Their Royal Highnesses Gallochbhar and Haley; Lord Kedivor Tal, Acting Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald!

This is the April 2001 internal Atenveldt Letter of Intent. It precedes the external LoI that will contain the following submissions, asking questions of submitters and local heralds who have worked with them; if these questions are not addressed, the submission may be returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds. You are encouraged to comment upon these submissions, whatever your experience level. Please have your comments to me on the submissions being considered for the 1 May LoI by 25April. I accept online commentary:

Direct-to-Kingdom Submissions: Having discussed this matter with heralds in other Kingdoms and with Lord Kedivor, it has been decided that members of the populace may make submissions directly to this Office; previously, this was reserved for kingdom royalty; submissions made at a kingdom level event Consultation Table; and for prospective entrants into the Crown Lists, when time was of the essence for submissions.

Although anyone can make a submission directly to this Office, I will strongly suggest that individuals who live in a Barony, and those who live in smaller groups with a functioning Herald's Office, continue to go through those offices. We made this decision primarily to help those individuals who are in remote areas or for one reason or another cannot attend events regularly and give submissions paperwork to their local heralds.

It will be noted that this "bypass" of the local office will not necessarily speed up a submission. Also, this Office will be retaining the $1.00/item fee that usually goes to the local Herald's Office. I will see that copies of the submissions, for your local files, are provided to you, as is the case when submissions are made at a Consultation Table.

If you have any questions or comments concerning this decision, please contact me. I was hesitant to implement this policy, lest people who have problems with their local herald/herald's office try to do an "end run" around that herald, but I think it is more valuable to assure someone who wants to make a submission has the ability to do so without jumping through too many hoops.

Submissions Website: You can send electronic commentary on the most recent internal LoIs through the site, in addition to any questions you might have. Please let your local populace know about the site, too:

Please consider the following submissions for inclusion in the 1 May 2001 Atenveldt Letter of Intent:

Katherine Tapester (Ered Sul): NEW NAME CHANGE and DEVICE CHANGE

Vert, on a maunch argent, a domestic cat dormant sable.

The name is English. Katherine is an undated form of the popular saint's name (p. 186, Withycombe). Tapester is an occupational byname, referring to a woman who taps or draws ale or other liquor for sale at an inn (OED Online, http://diciontary.

The submitter's currently registered name is Katrin Aerenlae and bears the device Per bend sinister wavy azure and vert, a scarpe wavy between an Egyptian hawk close and a windmill Or. Does she wish these items released upon registration of the name and device changes, or retained as an alternate persona name and a badge?

The following submissions appear in the 1 April 2001 Atenveldt Letter of Intent. A number of these were received in March, and rather than holding them a month for comment, I'm including them in the LoI. There ought to be submissions for internal commentary in next month's report:

Arion the Falcon (Ered Sul): NEW NAME and DEVICE (Argent, a bend sinister vert between an eagle displayed and a pheon inverted azure.)

This is a name change from Ariston Aile du Faucon (seen in the March Internal LoI), which used a family name/surname as a given name. Arion is a semilegendary Greek poet of the 7th C. BC, reputedly the first poet to use dithyramb (Webster's Biographical Dictionary, G.&C. Merriam Co., Springfield MA, 1966). It could be considered a resurrected classical period name used during the Renaissance. The Falcon is a descriptive epithet, indicative of the submitter's swiftness. Similar surnames (Falk, Falcon, Faucon) also may hark back to Old French and Old German terms for "falcon" (p. 125, Reaney and Wilson).

Birna Valthjófsdóttir (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Checky vert and Or, a bear rampant contourny ermine.

The name is Old Norse, with all elements taken from "The Old Norse Name," by Geirr Bassi. Birna is a female given name, p. 8. Valthjófr is a masculine given name, p. 16.

Caisséne ingen Scandlach (Twin Moons): NEW NAME CHANGE from registered Máire inghean uí Dhonnabháin

Caisséne is a masculine and a feminine given name, the feminine use seen in the 12th C. (p. 45, Ó Corráin and Maguire). ingen, "daughter of," is the form found before 1200 ("Quick and Easy Gaelic Names , Formerly Published as "Quick and Easy Gaelic Bynames," Sharon L. Krossa, Scandlach is said to be the genitive and lenited form of the masculine name Scandal (p. 161, Ó Corráin and Maguire), but it appears to be the feminine versions of the name Scandal (Scandlach is found on pp. 161-2). The use of a metronymic is very rare in Irish name construction, and then only seen in royalty, according to Krossa. However, there are occurrences of it in the SCA Armorial, as recently as 1996. I don't know how this name would be lenited, however. The submitter wants a 12th c. Irish Gaelic name.

She wishes to maintain her currently registered name as an alternate persona name.

Christina of County Cork (Four Mountains): NEW NAME

Christina is found in "Feminine Given Names in the Annals of Connacht: 1224-15444," Mari Elspeth nic Bryan ( Cork is a county in the south of Ireland.

Ciara inghaen uí Bheithir (Sundragon): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, February 2001 (Per fess wavy vert and sable, in pale a dolmen and two unicorns combattant argent.)

The submitter's name appears in the 1 February 2001 Atenveldt LoI.

Her original submission (Paly wavy vert and sable, in pale a dolmen and two unicorns combattant argent.) was returned for violation of RfS. VIII.2.b.iv. "Elements evenly divided into multiple parts of two different tinctures must have good contrast between their parts. For example, checky argent and gules is acceptable, but checky azure and gules is not." Changing the line of division has solved this problem.

Edward of Cornwall (Four Mountains): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Argent, a drawn wooden bow and arrow aimed to sinister proper, fletched sable, on a chief azure four mountains couped

The name is English. Edward was a popular given name before the Norman Conquest and persisted afterward, the name of several English kings (pp. 94-5, Withycombe).

Finn hua Cellaig (Twin Moons): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Vert, a lion rampant contourny and a chief Or.

The name is 12th C. Irish, documented by the Academy of Saint Gabriel. Finn is also found in Ó Corráin and Maguire, p. 100. Cellaigh (Kelly), is found in MacLysaght, p. 175. Documentation by the Academy is forwarded to Laurel.

Helena Serén de Luna (Atenveldt): NEW NAME and DEVICE (Azure, a crescent Or surmounted by a nude red-headed woman, arms upraised, proper, winged Or.)

Helena is the Latin form of Elena ("Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names," Arval Benicoeur and

Talan Gwynek, Serén is a variant (like Seréna and Seréno) of the Italian surname Seréni (p. 231, de Felice, Dizionario dei cognomi italiani). de Luna is a Spanish locative surname ("Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century," Juliana de Luna, It is not unreasonable to consider an Italian woman living in a Spanish city. Fucilla also notes that Luna (the moon) is a common inn sign, although it is unclear whether Italian name practice included inn signs as a means of byname construction (p. 224, Our Italian Surnames); if that is the case, there is the possibility of rendering the name completely into Italian).

The lady has put default feathered (eagle's) wings on the charge. Changing the crescent to Or also clears the conflict with Morgan MacDonald MacCrae: Azure, a crescent argent, overall an arrow palewise inverted Or. This is still very close to several other pieces of armory, but it is worth sending up and arguing for it.

Ianuk Raventhourne (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME

The name is Russian and English. Ianuk is a diminutive of Ian (p. 81, "Dictionary of Period Russian Names," Paul Wickenden of Thanet). While we were unable to find a byname identical to the coined locative Raventhourne, Reaney and Wilson demonstrates placenames indicating where ravens roost (Ravenshall, "raven's hill," p. 290; Renshall, "dweller by the raven-wood," p. 291) and areas where thorns/thorn trees grow (Thorn/e, "dweller by the thornbushes," p. 346; Thornedike, "dweller by the thorny ditch," p. 346; Thornhill, p. 346). This seems to be a reasonable construction, thorny areas where ravens are found. The combination of Russian and English name elements is supported by the registration of the name Tatiana Todhunter (3/93 LoAR) and Igor Throckmorton (10/99 LoAR), as interactions between Russia and England are known in period: in 1555, the London-based Muscovy Company were established at the instigation of Ivan the Terrible to establish trading depots throughout Muscovy.

Isabel du Lac d'Azur (Atenveldt): NEW BADGE (fieldless) Three thistles conjoined in pall inverted proper, within and conjoined to an annulet Or.

The name was registered July 1996. The original submission, without the annulet, was in direct conflict with Andreanna Innes: (Fieldless) Three thistles in pall inverted, slipped, leaved and joined at the stems, proper. Adding the annulet provides the additional CD required to avoid conflict (fieldlessness providing the first CD).

Muirgheal inghean Raghailligh mhic Seachnasaigh (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE

Argent, a fret gules surmounted by a badge statant sable, a chief indented gules.

The name was registered (through Atlantia) in May 2000.

Sorcha inghean Dhara mhic Seachnasaigh (Tir Ysgithr): NEW DEVICE

Per fess azure and vert, a lozenge ploye conjoined to the horns of an increscent, a bordure argent.

The name was registered (through Atlantia) in May 2000.

The following submissions were returned by the Atenveldt College of Heralds, March 2001:

Brianna Fey (Atenveldt): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, August 1996 (Vert, a chevron sable fimbriated between two lions salient combattant Or, and flames gules issuant from a goblet Or.)

RETURNED for question on change of name, conflict with Fiona O'Morain: Vert, a chevron sable fimbriated between three estoiles Or. There is no difference for the field or the primary charge. There is one Clear Difference for the changes to the secondary charge groups (lions and chalice vs. estoiles).

Kedivor Tal ap Cadugon (Atenveldt): BADGE RESUBMISSION from Kingdom, July 2000 (fieldless) A tyger passant argent enflamed azure, upon a flame azure.)

RETURNED for complex fimbriation.

The following submissions were registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, December 2000:

Beartlaoi mac Mathghamhna. Name.

Submitted as Beartlai mac Mathghamhain, the documentation provided for the given name was not adequate. We have therefore changed the name to a more likely form found in Ó Corráin and Maguire's Irish Names. Likewise, we have changed the byname to a form given in MacLysaght's The Surnames of Ireland.

Edward Gostomski. Name and device. Per pale azure and gules, a cross formy argent within a bordure ermine.

Submitted as Eduard Gostomski, no documentation was provided for the spelling of the given name. We have therefore changed it to a known documented spelling. Please instruct the submitter to draw a wider bordure.

Edward Gostomski. Badge. Per pale azure and argent, a cross formy counterchanged within a bordure invected gules.

Elizabeth Edwin. Name and device. Or, in pale a rhinoceros' head erased purpure and in chevron inverted two roses gules slipped and leaved vert.

John the Idiota. Badge. (Fieldless) A wolverine rampant argent.

This is clear of Marie of Erin, Purpure, a mink rampant argent, orbed gules, armed Or. There is a CD for fieldlessness, and another for the difference between a wolverine and a mink.

John the Idiota. Transfer of badge to Kyra Kai ferch Madoc. Sable, a monkey sejant erect affronty, in chief an annulet Or.

Kyra Kai ferch Madoc. Accepting badge transfer from John the Idiota. Sable, a monkey sejant erect affronty, in chief an annulet Or.

Kyra Kai ferch Madoc. Release of badge. Sable, a monkey sejant erect affronty, in chief a crescent argent.

Lachlan McBean. Holding name and badge (see RETURNS for name). Sable, a tankard bendwise argent foaming Or.

This is clear of Kenneth MacCintsacairt, Sable, issuant from an open tankard argent, a dexter arm embowed reversed proper, grasping a sword fesswise argent. There is a CD for changing the orientation of the tankard and another for removing the significant arm and sword in Kenneth's device. The badge was submitted under the name Lachlan McBean of Kinchyle.

Temur Arslan. Device. Or, in pale a lion couchant contourny and two death's heads in fess sable, a bordure gules.

Yvonnet de Navarra. Name and device. Quarterly purpure and sable, a unicorn's head couped within an orle argent.

The following submisssions were returned for further work by the College of Arms, December 2000:

Lachlan McBean of Kinchyle. Name.

Kinchyle appears to be the clan seat of the MacBean, so the two names cannot be combined in this manner. As he does not allow us to drop elements of the name we have to return it. Also, the documentation for the name was not adequately summarised on the LoI, and we would have returned it for that reason as well. His badge has been registered under the holding name Lachlan McBean.

Sebastiana Gerynot Fanelli. Device. Per pale gules and purpure, on a pale Or between two rapiers inverted proper, a jester's bauble proper, staffed bendy sinister argent and alternately gules and purpure, and hooded alternately purpure and gules.

While the reasons for the previous return have been dealt with, this submission creates a new one. No evidence has been presented for the coloration of the staff. Treatments of the field were not necessarily used as treatments for charges, and therefore are not sufficient documentation to register this treatment of the staff.

I remain,

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716


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