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ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS 1 January 2018, A.S. LII

LETTER OF PRESENTATION Kingdom of Atenveldt




Unto Their Royal Majesties Marek and Golda; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!


This is the January 2018 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. Please have commentary to me by 20 January 2018.


Heraldry Hut: The next meeting is scheduled for Friday, 19 January, beginning at 7:30 PM. Please email me for directions to my house if needed.


The following submissions appears in the December 2017 Letter of Intent:


Cirina Elči (Twin Moons): NAME CHANGE RESUBMISSION, from Serena the Lavendere, from Laurel January 2017

The old name was registered January 2003 via Calontir. Serena the Lavendere is to be retained as an alternate name.

The previous submission, Cirina Badartai, was returned by Laurel for the following reasons: “This name must be returned because Badartai is not a properly constructed Mongol name element (or even a properly constructed Mongol word). The Letter of Intent argues that Badartai is a constructed byname intended to mean "monk," based on the Mongol verb badarcila. However, in Mongolian, the suffix -tai cannot be added to a verb to create a noun or a byname. The submitter allows no changes so we could not correct this name to a registerable form. When considering her options for resubmission, the submitter may be interested to know that, in commentary, Ursula Green Staff documented the following Mongol words and titles usable as bynames: ubasi or ubasanc (monk, often used for a woman); toyin or doyin (perhaps the most common Mongol term for a monk); qo{sv}ang (for a Buddhist monk); gab{sv}es (title for a Buddhist monk who has completed advanced study); gejuni (Tibetan monk in charge of novices); and simnanc, {sv}amnanc or {sv}imnanc (monk/nun). As the submitter requested a feminine name, the terms ubasanc, toyin or simnanc would be most appropriate.”

Cirina is a Mongolian woman's name found in Dawson's "The Mongol Mission: Narravie and Letters of the Franciscan Missionaries in the 13th and 14th Centuries," cited in "Mongolian Naming Practices," Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy ( http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongolian_names_marta.html ).

Elči is a descriptive byname found in Igor de Rachwitlz "Secret History of the Mongols,” cited in "Middle Mongol Grammar for SCA Names," Ursula Georges (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongolgrammar.html).
The client desires a female name and is more interested in the language/culture of the name (Mongolian).


Mathurin Annarson (Tir Ysgithr): NEW NAME and DEVICE: Gules, on a fess cotised argent two trident heads conjoined at the neck fesswise sable.

The byname was changed from Anarr to the ON male name Arnórr. It is clearly a name associated with humans, and is found fourteen times in the Landnámabók (via Viking Names found in Landnámabók, Aryanhwy merch Catmael, http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html). The patronymic formed is Arnórsson (the diacritical is dropped).


Robbert Broekhuijsen (Mons Tonitrus): DEVICE RESUBMISSION from Laurel, October 2017: Per bend sinister gules and argent, an Oriental dragon in annulo azure, in base a baroque folded trumpet reversed vert surmounted by two arrows inverted in saltire sable.
The name was registered October 2017.
The original submission was returned for the following reasons: “This device is returned administratively. The form in the packet depicts a baroque folded trumpet, while the mini emblazon on OSCAR depicts a 19th century cavalry bugle. While the submissions herald noted the change in a correction to the Letter of Intent, the mini emblazon was neither corrected nor supplied in comments. This is grounds for return.
“This device has charges surmounting a secondary charge. Discussion of whether this practice is allowable, or a violation of SENA Appendix I.D, which requires overall charges to cross the center line of the device and surmount the primary charge group, is currently underway in OSCAR and will be decided at the December Wreath meeting. Upon resubmission, the outcome of that discussion should be addressed by the submitter.”
The horn has been corrected, and we're hoping for the best concerning the discussion of surmounting secondary charges.


Please consider the following submissions for the January 2018 Letter of Intent:


Jorunn Vakr (Twin Moons): NEW NAME

The name is Norwegian. While the given name is documented in behindthename.com (not a good source), Jórunnr can be found in Geirr Bassi Haraldsson, “The Old Norse Name,” p. 12, as a female Old Norse name. However, Diplomatarium Norvegicum (http://www.dokpro.uio.no/dipl_norv/diplom_field_eng.html) vol. II no. 285 (dated to 1347) mentions "Arne Þrondar son ok Jorunn moder hans" (Arne Þrond's son and Jorunn his mother) as a Norwegian name (this was provided by Aryanhwy merch Catmael).
Vakr is found in https://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Vakr. Vakr is a male given name in Geirr Bassi, p. 15, as an Old Norse name. This name appears in Hrana saga hrings and is also used as one of the by-names of the god Óðinn in Gylfaginning, where it means "the watchful; the vigilant." (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml). It is used here as a descriptive rather than a patronymic.
The client's maiden name is Wake, which was changed by the British from the original Vakr, meaning “watchful, wakeful”; she notes that Vakr date back to her Norse family ancestry in 1052.


Loðinn Feilan (Twin Moons): NEW NAME, DEVICE and BADGE

(device) Per bend sinister argent and azure, two wolf's head erased addorsed counterchanged gules and argent.

(badge) Per pale argent and azure, a wolf's head cabossed per pale gules and argent.

The name is Old Norse. Loðinn is a male given name found in Geirr Bassi, p. 12, and in the Viking Answer Lady (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml#l). Feilan is found in Geirr Bassi, p. 20, “wolf-cub.” The client desires a male name.

The wolf heads will have to be modified to show that the cut line is actually erased, and “ragged”-looking.



Olrun Kjarsdottir (Mons Tonitrus): NEW NAME and DEVICE

Per chevron vert and gules, a chevron between two swans rousant repectant argent and a rapier Or.

The name is Old Norse. Olrún is a female given name from the Viking Answer Lady, http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml#o, via Cleasby, Richard and Guðbrandr Vigfusson. An Icelandic-English Dictionary. 2nd ed. Oxford: Clarendon. 1957, pp. 504, 763. Several Kjar- male names are found with the Viking Answer Lady, http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml#k, via Geirr Bassi Haraldsson. The Old Norse Name. I don't know if this protheme stands as an independent name, but if it does, the terminal -r should be dropped and the patronymic for a woman would seem to be Kjasdottir. The client desires a female name and is most interested in the meaning of the name, Olrun daughter of Kjar.
Is the placement of the chevron may have to be acceptable? I suspect the orientation of the swans might also be simply combatant.



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